well its about time

Nothingbetter2d

finally a corrupt politician gets jailed for 4 years for taking bribes (should have got 6 but 2 were suspended)

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/ex-fg-cllr-fred-forsey-jnr-sentenced-to-four-years-in-jail-for-pocketing-80k-in-bribes-3152022.html

now to make room for bertie and the rest in the joy and we would all be happy.

BraziliaNZ

I hope they put that Callely gob****e away, f*cking traitor to the country

mikom

Stay classy FG.

mikemac1

Left his wife for that young 26 year old girlfriend

Foolish mistake my man

As she has destroyed his life

A wife's revenge :eek:

shopaholic01

I doubt there would be enough room in the 'joy to accomodate them all.

Nothingbetter2d

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I doubt there would be enough room in the 'joy to accomodate them all.

true we could put the overspill in cloverhill :D

BraziliaNZ

The jury had been urged by Forsey's defence to treat his ex-wife's evidence with caution as "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned".

I can't believe the judge let that remark stand in this day and age, sexism is rife it seems.

hidinginthebush

mikemac1 wrote: »

Left his wife for that young 26 year old girlfriend

Foolish mistake my man

As she has destroyed his life

A wife's revenge :eek:

Couldn't help reading that in eamon dunphy's voice

shopaholic01

mikemac1 wrote: »

Left his wife for that young 26 year old girlfriend

Foolish mistake my man

As she has destroyed his life

A wife's revenge :eek:

Hell hath no fury .................;)

laoch na mona

now the can arrest lowery and i'll be happy

kfallon

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Hell hath no fury .................;)

Like a taco chip on your ringpiece?

mikemac1

Sure we'll add some pics

The bould councillor left Jenny Forsey for the younger Karen Morrisey

And paid for it with a jail term

El Weirdo

He [the judge] praised the "civic mindedness" of Jenny Forsey, who gave evidence of her ex-husband.

Yes. Civic mindedness. That's what it was.

davet82

i think he should be released, the younger one is well fitter...

what was he jailed for again?

mackeire

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I doubt there would be enough room in the 'joy to accomodate them all.

true we could put the overspill in cloverhill :D

maybe just put a big wall around the dail and lock them all in!

Nothingbetter2d

only if we have armed guard towers to shoot them if they try to escape

shopaholic01

kfallon wrote: »

Like a taco chip on your ringpiece?

Love it, thanks

Nothingbetter2d

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Love it, thanks

you should try a hot tex mex chilli for 50% more burning sensation

RobbieTheRobber

From that article it says the wife didnt do this out of revenge, so what was it the guilt of having that all expenses paid holiday in Italy that got you.

Comical stuff.

Larbre34

Scorned or not, it was the wifes report to the Guards that started the ball rolling so make of it what you will

I do love a good precendent nonetheless, so let the flood gates open!!

DonQuay1

mikemac1 wrote: »

Left his wife for that young 26 year old girlfriend

Foolish mistake my man

As she has destroyed his life

A wife's revenge :eek:

I'm on a theme tonight it seems!

Yep ..... she got the revenge and got rid of him. BIG TIME. To the BIG HOUSE!

steddyeddy

Faith in Ireland growing again.......

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

shopaholic01 wrote: »

I doubt there would be enough room in the 'joy to accomodate them all.

Plenty of room in the broom cupbord.

I wonder if the developer can be charged for attempting (and succeding) to bribe a councillor/politician?

DonQuay1

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I can't believe the judge let that remark stand in this day and age, sexism is rife it seems.

So is PC ness gone too far. Of course - NO wimmen would never scre w over their man (men) because they're jealous.

And, any comment by a man in a court - that can be deliberately misconstrued out of (or in) context - will become the kick toy of those that seek to find sexist problems everywhere.


Typical Nonsense.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

DonQuay1 wrote: »

So is PC ness gone too far. Of course - NO wimmen would never scre w over their man (men) because they're jealous.

And, any comment by a man in a court - that can be deliberately misconstrued out of (or in) context - will become the kick toy of those that seek to find sexist problems everywhere.


Typical Nonsense.

What does PCness have to do with this?

Suggesting that there might have bene an ulterior motive on behal of the ex-wife is just shy of accusing her of purjury.

steddyeddy

Well If one of the biggest frauds in the world (quinn) isnt in there with him theres something wrong.

Nothingbetter2d

DonQuay1 wrote: »

So is PC ness gone too far. Of course - NO wimmen would never scre w over their man (men) because they're jealous.

And, any comment by a man in a court - that can be deliberately misconstrued out of (or in) context - will become the kick toy of those that seek to find sexist problems everywhere.


Typical Nonsense.

why such hatred towards women? did one screw ya over?

the thread was about a corrupt politician finally getting jail but you are trying to derail a lot of threads with your women bashing nonsense

admiralofthefleet

tip of the iceberg sadly

Nothingbetter2d

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

tip of the iceberg sadly

i know... instead the rest got big pensions :mad:

DonQuay1

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

What does PCness have to do with this?

Suggesting that there might have bene an ulterior motive on behal of the ex-wife is just shy of accusing her of purjury.

The brazilian wasn't talking about justice. Her comment was ONLY about the SEXIST angle of it...

DonQuay1

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

why such hatred towards women? did one screw ya over?

the thread was about a corrupt politician finally getting jail but you are trying to derail a lot of threads with your women bashing nonsense

And another risable comment about being 'screwed' over. Is that the answer you always fight with? I don't agree with you so attack and denigrate?
I don't derail nowt. If someone makes a statement - then they have to be able to take - and reply - to a contrary view. My statements were IN REPLY to risable statements by others.

Too much anti man sexist bull on here tonight. The comments I've commented on have no relevance towards the actual subject matter of the original OP.
Just man-bashing.

Oh - and I believe I have a right (written somewhere I presume) to answer - in any forum (here or in a court) - comments?

Or are you suggestion I be censured because a view I express doesn't jell with your own view? Is this the latest way tonight to bash men? Lets burn books next and send dissenters to a re-education camp?

Nothingbetter2d

DonQuay1 wrote: »

And another risable comment about being 'screwed' over. Is that the answer you always fight with? I don't agree with you so attack and denigrate?
I don't derail nowt. If someone makes a statement - then they have to be able to take - and reply - to a contrary view. My statements were IN REPLY to risable statements by others.

Too much anti man sexist bull on here tonight. The comments I've commented on have no relevance towards the actual subject matter of the original OP.
Just man-bashing.

Oh - and I believe I have a right (written somewhere I presume) to answer - in any forum (here or in a court) - comments?

Or are you suggestion I be censured because a view I express doesn't jell with your own view? Is this the latest way tonight to bash men? Lets burn books next and send dissenters to a re-education camp?

i am a man

DonQuay1

[QUOTE=Nothingbetter2d;7944629
i am a man[/I]

Are you?
Ok ... you're a man with an agenda -

Nothingbetter2d

DonQuay1 wrote: »

[QUOTE=Nothingbetter2d;7944629
i am a man[/I]

Are you?
Ok ... you're a man with an agenda - otherwise you would have quoted my entire post - rather than selectively leaving out what you did.

i quoted your entire post. :rolleyes:

i even edited my post quote to included the line you added later :rolleyes:


i have no agenda.... im just sick of looking at your whinging posts about women.

DonQuay1

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

DonQuay1 wrote: »

i quoted your entire post. :rolleyes:

i even edited my post quote to included the line you added later :rolleyes:

Indeed/

I'm sure you'll agendaise my posting skills also. Goodnight

DonQuay1

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

DonQuay1 wrote: »

i quoted your entire post. :rolleyes:

i even edited my post quote to included the line you added later :rolleyes:


i have no agenda.... im just sick of looking at your whinging posts about women.

Another edit??

But really. Must go. Slan ...

Nothingbetter2d

DonQuay1 wrote: »

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

Another edit??

But really. Must go. Slan ...

yes seriously why the bitterness?

Nothingbetter2d

right, lets get the thread back on topic

mattjack

steddyeddy wrote: »

Faith in Ireland growing again.......

Slowly, ever so slowly.

Pushtrak

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

What does PCness have to do with this?

Suggesting that there might have bene an ulterior motive on behal of the ex-wife is just shy of accusing her of purjury.

Don't really think that is all that accurate. It certainly would be a motivator, even if its only at a subconscious level. And I would say the same were the genders switched. Perjury would be speaking dishonestly, so I think to associate the two as if they were proximate is a category error.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

DonQuay1 wrote: »

The brazilian wasn't talking about justice. Her comment was ONLY about the SEXIST angle of it...

As I read it, it was abotu the Judge's rection to it. Courts are supposed to deal with facts and not emotions, and and suspicions that a witness is dealign in emotion and not delivering facts should be brought up at the time of testomony and objected to. Why did counsel not do this at the time?

Also, unless he has evidence that the witness lied, her past rlationship is of no consequence.

And you still don;t explain where PCness comes into it.

Pushtrak wrote: »

Don't really think that is all that accurate. It certainly would be a motivator, even if its only at a subconscious level. And I would say the same were the genders switched. Perjury would be speaking dishonestly, so I think to associate the two as if they were proximate is a category error.

Yeah, I know, I did say "just shy of". As I said above, the time for bringing this to a judge or jury's attention is during cross-examination. Why was this not done?

kowloon

kfallon wrote: »

Like a taco chip on your ringpiece?

Tea all over my keyboard now ye fecker!

davet82

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

right, lets get the thread back on topic

why do that, the thread is starting to get interesting :pac:

fight!

fight!

fight!

fight!

fight!

:P

Nothingbetter2d

davet82 wrote: »

fair enough lets get back on topic then

lol cheer up davet82.... at least a corrupt politician went to jail instead of getting a big pension

Napper Hawkins

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

lol cheer up davet82.... at least a corrupt politician went to jail instead of getting a big pension

Only one though, hardly a victory when the worst of them are still laughing at us.

davet82

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

lol cheer up davet82.... at least a corrupt politician went to jail instead of getting a big pension

true but on the down side these results are more rare than an eclipse... as you can see i'm a glass half empty kinda guy

Nothingbetter2d

davet82 wrote: »

true but on the down side these results are more rare than an eclipse... as you can see i'm a glass half empty kinda guy

but now the ball has started rolling and politicians see that they can go to jail it might smarten them up.

btw the glass is half full too :D

runthemjobs

Utopian Dreaming
It seems to me that this case assumes the norm in public life is honesty and transparency whereas the truth is, we live in a "You scratch my back i'll scratch yours world" Nepotism, brown envelopes, and backroom deals are the reality and has been the way since the dawn of civilisation, I'd go as far as to say that it's the essence of civil society. On the face of it no one will openly admit to operating in this manner. But we only need to take a brief look at the world around us to see how things really work. vitriolic condemnation is the normal reaction to those caught and convicted. (ohh and thank god it wasn't me). Is fred Forsey guilty as charged ? I'm sure he is guilty of getting caught, being greedy, and upsetting his former wife to the piont where she sought and got revenge. I think the 4yrs incarceration will do him a power of good, he will learn alot about himself and life while inside, maybe he'll write a book. As for this case setting a precedent, I think it will, people in his situation are less likely to make the same mistakes "Getting Caught", but you may as well take a fork to the tide as change human nature and why should we, it's got us this far hasn't it. The brown envelope will continue and now again we'll Tar and Feather some miscreant and we'll all feel good about ourselves for a while. I wonder how many people would not take the money given the opportunity I know I would have taken it. I wonder if he had split the money 50/50 with his former wife and not left her for the other woman, would we ever have heard about it. I wonder if the land in question had been rezoned and through some celtic tiger miracle the rezoning had brought much needed jobs and development to an area deperately needing it, would we be still looking for scapegoats to sacrafice to our hypocrisy. The utopian society that this judgement aspires to would be great to live in for robots deviod of emotion and human error, but were not robots, we live in a colourfull world where everyone fouls up and many enjoy throwing stones at glass houses, not thier own one of course. So maybe instead of judging and jailing people for the crime of human falability we should change the systems which are subject to this falability.

Borderfox

day day Fred, they will love you in prison seen as you were f***ed by your wife :-)