Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes seek divorce

Biggins

Delancey wrote: »

Anyone ever noticed how the careers of the women in Cruises life take off ? Nicole Kidman , Penelope Cruz and now Katie Holmes have benefitted massively from their marriages/association with him.
Poor Mimi Rogers seems to be stuck on the made-for-TV treadmill though.

I actually thought Katie Holmes was doing very well beforehand.
Afterwards (her marriage) she seems to have filtered out as a main attraction.

shopaholic01

Delancey wrote: »

Anyone ever noticed how the careers of the women in Cruises life take off ? Nicole Kidman , Penelope Cruz and now Katie Holmes have benefitted massively from their marriages/association with him.
Poor Mimi Rogers seems to be stuck on the made-for-TV treadmill though.

Poor Mimi married him too early in his career.

Chuck Stone

Fentdog84 wrote: »

wtf like! Bit of a brain twister mate

Yeah I've been trying to figure it out myself.

Fentdog84

Biggins wrote: »

:eek:

I probably wouldn't stand being in a room five minutes without trying to convert him over to the bight side!

I read a book called the game, by Neil Strauss not sure if your aware of it it's about PUA. He devotes a whole chapter to a meeting he had with Cruise in the middle of a desert and it was one of the strangest experiences of his life. He found Cruise extremely friendly, but manipulating and it was obvious that he was trying to convert Strauss from the get go. No doubt, those Scientology folk are weird fruitcakes.

sxt

Fentdog84 wrote: »

I read a book called the game, by Neil Strauss not sure if your aware of it it's about PUA. He devotes a whole chapter to a meeting he had with Cruise in the middle of a desert and it was one of the strangest experiences of his life. He found Cruise extremely friendly, but manipulating and it was obvious that he was trying to convert Strauss from the get go. No doubt, those Scientology folk are weird fruitcakes.

I reckon they are lining tom cruise up to be the next president of the united states

dark crystal

Fentdog84 wrote: »

I read a book called the game, by Neil Strauss not sure if your aware of it it's about PUA. He devotes a whole chapter to a meeting he had with Cruise in the middle of a desert and it was one of the strangest experiences of his life. He found Cruise extremely friendly, but manipulating and it was obvious that he was trying to convert Strauss from the get go. No doubt, those Scientology folk are weird fruitcakes.

Yeah, like I said in my previous post, Cruise has always struck me as somewhat of a control freak. His dogged devotion to Scientology certainly contributed to the breakdown of his second marriage and could well have been a mitigating factor in the breakdown of this one.

Curiously, both Kidman and Holmes are both Roman Catholics and never converted to Scientology, unlike John Travolta's wife.

sxt

dark crystal wrote: »

Yeah, like I said in my previous post, Cruise has always struck me as somewhat of a control freak. His dogged devotion to Scientology certainly contributed to the breakdown of his second marriage and could well have been a mitigating factor in the breakdown of this one.

Curiously, both Kidman and Holmes are both Roman Catholics and never converted to Scientology, unlike John Travolta's wife.

Would it surprise you that his wife introduced him to scientology?

dark crystal

sxt wrote: »

Would it surprise you that his wife introduced him to scientology?

His first wife did, yeah. He was raised Roman Catholic himself.

Fentdog84

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Yeah I've been trying to figure it out myself.

Got it. In that case they are no better than Islam fundamentalists

Oafley Jones

Strange fact of the day - Cruise's three wives were all 33 when then divorced.

krudler

Shryke wrote: »

Ah Chuck, playing someone impaired doesn't make you a good actor. It has to be one of the easiest things to do. I know a few lads that can do some pretty shameless impressions. Watch Rain Man and actually look at the performances. Dustin Hoffman doesn't do jack. It has to be one of his easiest roles. Cruise on the other hand was excellent and completely overlooked because of Hoffman.
I don't see how playing a down and out would show chops. Like acting like a bum would be taxing.

THANK YOU, someone who finally agrees with me that Cruise had the tougher part in that movie.

anyway, judge the art, not the artist I say, a lot, a LOT of celebrities have done some scummy things and are generally assholes, doesnt stop people idolising them.

sxt

Biggins wrote: »

Well your entitled to that opinion.

I will just say that if we don't speak up against what we consider or see to be wrong. then "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke).

...And I would add, that I would fight for you to maintain that your able to have an opinion - even if it was to differ many times from my own.

Biggins wrote: »

Your right.
I just have an intolerance for Cruise and what he stands for/advocates.

If anyone has an intolerance for gays, lesbians or anything of other sexual orientation, I frankly do NOT want to know such stupid, out of date idiots.

This is my point, You are demonizing a famous person in the news ,Tom cruise,without any facts, because as you state


"If anyone has an intolerance for gays, lesbians or anything of other sexual orientation, I frankly do NOT want to know such stupid, out of date idiots."



You are basically referring to nearly all world religions...

Fentdog84

krudler wrote: »

THANK YOU, someone who finally agrees with me that Cruise had the tougher part in that movie.

anyway, judge the art, not the artist I say, a lot, a LOT of celebrities have done some scummy things and are generally assholes, doesnt stop people idolising them.

i agree. playing the ''straight man'' if you like is always way more difficult and less glamorous. One of his many fine roles, if not his finest. He's an amazing actor, no doubt about it, he could do anything.

Ps no pun intended!

smileyj1987

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Strange fact of the day - Cruise's three wives were all 33 when then divorced.

Maybe he likes them young :p

Biggins

sxt wrote: »

This is my point, You are demonizing a famous person in the news,Tom cruise,without any facts...

Well firstly, it should make no difference if he is famous or not.
Secondly, I opinionate based on the very facts that I do know and learned over decades of opposing Scientology and its twisted ways.
...As such, I have found that all whom are still wrapped up in the cult, differ little if at all, from the limited mental blinkered ability they gain from being too deep into the twisted org.
...And thats not just my own opinion. Its of many that have opposed in serious nature, the org.

And again, you voicing opposition opinion about my vocalising an opinion - when your once again stating your own opinion about mine!
What irony!

sxt

Biggins wrote: »

Well firstly, it should make no difference if he is famous or not.

Why didn't you abuse Ronan keating for being a catholic yet you abuse Tom cruise with no facts...

Biggins wrote: »

Your right.
I just have an intolerance for Cruise and what he stands for/advocates.

If anyone has an intolerance for gays, lesbians or anything of other sexual orientation, I frankly do NOT want to know such stupid, out of date idiots.

The Master

Closed until someone actually gives a fuck