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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭Almaviva


    Especially considering 2 seasons ago we had Racing and Clermont in our pool?

    Toulouse also. With a bonus point as I recall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 958 ✭✭✭funtime93


    Almaviva wrote: »
    Toulouse also. With a bonus point as I recall.
    The last time we had Toulouse in our pool was 07/08 and we didnt get a TBP against them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    funtime93 wrote: »
    The last time we had Toulouse in our pool was 07/08 and we didnt get a TBP against them.

    We finished 3rd in the pool in fact, Leicester were ahead of us


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fanki na pengin


    Fates are really conspiring against us this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leinster were poor in the Heineken group stages and probably don't deserve to go through.

    But it annoys me that a team so lacking in quality is going to go through instead of us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    It's just one of those years I suppose, there is still a European/League double on the cards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 958 ✭✭✭funtime93


    Clegg wrote: »
    Leinster were poor in the Heineken group stages and probably don't deserve to go through.

    But it annoys me that a team so lacking in quality is going to go through instead of us.
    Completely agree especially since there's no hope whatsoever of Munster going all the way.I'd laugh if Toulouse got two bonuses and knocked Munster out though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    This is going to haunt us next year when we win it again. Could have been 4 in a row. Now it's just going to be 4 in 6 years.....FML


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    funtime93 wrote: »
    Completely agree especially since there's no hope whatsoever of Munster going all the way.I'd laugh if Toulouse got two bonuses and knocked Munster out though.

    Wrong thread, actually, wrong forum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,225 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I don't dislike Munster tbh.

    I'd be annoyed at any team that qualified by playing that poorly.

    But I suppose we wouldn't be talking like this if Leinster had just performed a bit better when it actually mattered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    So we're in the Amlin now....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fanki na pengin


    I think this season has been jinxed by the spirit of Wesley Fofana's bicep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Gotta aim for the Amlin now.
    At least the final is on our home patch! Great motivation to go and win it.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,110 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    You're bound to win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Just not our year. Referees cost us a QF place these last 2 weekends, and we should have done more in the first 4.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    I want us to win the Rabo, couldn't give a rat's arse about the Amlin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    So who are we playing in the Amlin QF?? Chances are that we are going to be the highest ranked player that drops down to the Amlin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    tolosenc wrote: »
    Just not our year. Referees cost us a QF place these last 2 weekends, and we should have done more in the first 4.

    Ref didn't cost us anything, it's just one of those years. If anything, this is the best chance at a double we've ever had.


  • Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭circos


    Absolutely sick


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    So who are we playing in the Amlin QF?? Chances are that we are going to be the highest ranked player that drops down to the Amlin.

    Either Stade, Bath, Wasps or Perpignan, don't think we can play Heino teams


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    So we're in the Amlin now....

    Good chance for our B&I Cup squad to get a competitive run out, or a bit of game time for the likes of O'Malley or D Kearney. Not worth insulting our first team with though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Either Stade, Bath, Wasps or Perpignan, don't think we can play Heino teams

    If we go through as first losers from the heineken, we play third in teh Amlin - i.e. Wasps.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    So who are we playing in the Amlin QF?? Chances are that we are going to be the highest ranked player that drops down to the Amlin.

    I think Wasps get the highest ranked HEC team to drop down, then Perpignan, and then Gloucester.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Away to Perpignan for the Amlin QF. Balls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Only one way to save our season now....

    RaboDirectPRO12trophy.jpg

    AND

    amlin-challenge-cup-trophy.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Perpignan are the third ranked team after the pool stages so looks like it'll be them.
    Bath are 1st seeds, followed by Gloucester


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Sandwlch wrote: »
    Good chance for our B&I Cup squad to get a competitive run out, or a bit of game time for the likes of O'Malley or D Kearney. Not worth insulting our first team with though.

    Insulting??????

    What BS!

    If Leinster took the mick in the Amlin I'd be disgusted and any possible home game I'd have no interest in paying money to see. It's another chance to win some silverware and should be respected as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,284 ✭✭✭ongarite


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Away to Perpignan for the Amlin QF. Balls.
    Very winnable game. In don't get the hate for the Amlin here. I would love to win it on our home patch and guarantee Connacht HC rugby next year again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    vienne86 wrote: »
    If we go through as first losers from the heineken, we play third in teh Amlin - i.e. Wasps.

    Sorry, I meand we play fourth in the Amlin i.e. Wasps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Actually Wasps not Perpignan.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Away to Perpignan for the Amlin QF. Balls.

    I'm almost sure it's Wasps, no?

    Bath v Stade Francais
    Gloucester v Heineken Cup 3
    Perpingan v Heineken Cup 2
    Wasps v Heineken Cup 1

    We will be Heineken Cup 1, unless there's a better runner up than us.

    Runners up into Amlin are:

    Leinster - 20 points
    Leicester / Toulouse - 17/19 points
    Biarritz - 15 points

    Northampton - 15 points but worse try record - eliminated as worst runner up.

    Unless a freak result happens (Toulouse get losing bonus and try bonus) then we will be Heineken 1 and play Wasps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Just found this

    1 (ACC 1) v 8 (ACC 5)
    2 (ACC 2) v 7 (Heineken Cup 3)
    3 (ACC 3) v 6 (Heineken Cup 2)
    4 (ACC 4) v 5 (Heineken Cup 1)


    Most likely we will be HC1 so we will get acc4 so we get Wasps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭Hippo


    Honestly, no-one remembers who won the Amlin from one year to the next, it's an irrelevancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    It'll be Perpignan once Leicester and Toulouse knock Munster down to the Amlin too. I just know that game is going to be a fix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    Hippo wrote: »
    Honestly, no-one remembers who won the Amlin from one year to the next, it's an irrelevancy.

    I follow rugby pretty closely. But couldnt even name a team that has ever won it, in any year. Its a minor trophy for losers.

    Want that Pro 12 one very badly now though....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fanki na pengin


    A possible Amlin final in the RDS of Leinster v Toulouse......ha! The two highest Heineken cup holders!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Hippo wrote: »
    Honestly, no-one remembers who won the Amlin from one year to the next, it's an irrelevancy.

    Yes they do. Quins in 2011, Biarritz 2012, Leinster 2013.

    I personally go to most of them. Maybe you aren't aware but the quality of rugby is not that far below the H Cup once you get to the knockouts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Sandwlch wrote: »
    I follow rugby pretty closely. But couldnt even name a team that has ever won it, in any year. Its a minor trophy for losers.

    Want that Pro 12 one very badly now though....

    Off hand Biarritz and Quins were the last two winners, and was it Toulon the year before that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    So Amlin Quarter-Final is:

    Bath vs Stade Francais
    Gloucester vs Biarritz
    Perpingan vs Leicester / Toulouse
    Wasps vs Leinster

    The semi-final draw is on after the Leicester vs Toulouse game. A home semi vs the winner of Bath v Stade Francais would be ideal. ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭Tox56


    The final of the Amlin is at the RDS, and winning it gets Connacht into the H Cup next season, those two reasons alone make it worthwhile


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Hippo wrote: »
    Honestly, no-one remembers who won the Amlin from one year to the next, it's an irrelevancy.

    Biarritz and Quins won the last two off the top of my head!

    Aside from any Leinster reasons for them wanting to win from the IRFU point of view and the financial point of view it's important Leinster do their best. Then there is the fact if an Irish team wins any European trophy Connacht qualify for the HEC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    Do Amlin winners get automatic qualification into the HC? Would be nice to win it and see Connacht in the HC again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Have to laugh at the people turning their nose up at a potential European final in Dublin.

    Any silverware is better than no silverware.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Teferi wrote: »
    Do Amlin winners get automatic qualification into the HC? Would be nice to win it and see Connacht in the HC again.

    Yup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Sandwlch


    A possible Amlin final in the RDS of Leinster v Toulouse......ha! The two highest Heineken cup holders!

    Says it all. They just shouldnt be there. You dont throw teams from 5th to 8th in the Premier League into the Championship for the last few games and give them a shot at winning that. Amlin is fine for those who start in it. A nonesense for those who are ejected from the HC.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭fanki na pengin


    Yeah, Connacht would be in if we win the Amlin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Teferi wrote: »
    Do Amlin winners get automatic qualification into the HC? Would be nice to win it and see Connacht in the HC again.

    Yes. Leinster win would get another Irish team in to the Heineken i.e. Connacht


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    its_phil wrote: »
    Have to laugh at the people turning their nose up at a potential European final in Dublin.

    Any silverware is better than no silverware.

    I'd rank Scarlett Johannsen as the best looking lady in the world followed by Jennifer Lawrence.

    I would not be turning down a night with Jennifer Lawrence under any circumstances :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Sandwlch wrote: »
    Says it all. They just shouldnt be there. You dont throw teams from 5th to 8th in the Premier League into the Championship for the last few games and give them a shot at winning that. Amlin is fine for those who start in it. A nonesense for those who are ejected from the HC.

    In soccer teams drop from the champions league to the UEFA cup iirc

    Dunno what you're on about at all about the English league competitions!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Sandwlch wrote: »

    I follow rugby pretty closely. But couldnt even name a team that has ever won it, in any year.

    Well that's a contradiction.


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