Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread II

durkadurka

The mind of joe:

https://twitter.com/colliemorugby/status/229174589589164032

tolosenc

durkadurka wrote: »

The mind of joe:

https://twitter.com/colliemorugby/status/229174589589164032

The difference between his interpretation of the second quote and Kidney's...

jimbomalley

durkadurka wrote: »

The mind of joe:

https://twitter.com/colliemorugby/status/229174589589164032

"The only way to perpetuate mistakes is to have no new ideas"

- Declan Kidney


edit: tolosenc said it first, just thought i'd verbal what ol' deccie might be thinking!

molloyjh

tolosenc wrote: »

durkadurka wrote: »

The mind of joe:

https://twitter.com/colliemorugby/status/229174589589164032

The difference between his interpretation of the second quote and Kidney's...

I'm sure we all had the same thought there.....wonder does Deccie realise Joe means something alto legged different though!?

[Jackass]

I think that's pretty favorable order of fixtures for Leinster. Given the group we have, I suppose we needed a bit of help, but it's good that we have Clermont in the back to back and that play at home second. Like last time, if we can get a losing bonus over there, then we'll be in the driving seat.

Scarlets are a developing squad and it'll be nice to have maybe the easiest game first to prepare for the trip over there in round 2, and then we have a nice run in, home to Scarlets and away to Exeter who will hopefully have no more interest, even though English sides don't tend to pack it in even if they're out. but if they're under a bit of pressure in the league, you never know.

It's quite sickening to have Clermont AGAIN (4 seasons in a row), but at least we have an opportunity to take them out over 2 legs rather than potentially having to travel over there again for a semi (although given the final is in Dublin, any quarter final involving Leinster / Munster / Ulster will have a home semi draw).

tolosenc

So, apparently we won the cricket by 70 runs...

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/leinster-rugby-stars-upset-ireland-xi-in-charity-cricket-match-536965-Jul2012/

Teferi

Is there anything we can't do?

thomond2006

Was that match above international standard?

Dravokivich

tolosenc wrote: »

So, apparently we won the cricket by 70 runs...

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/leinster-rugby-stars-upset-ireland-xi-in-charity-cricket-match-536965-Jul2012/

Please tell us Isa got Man of the match!

CIARAN_BOYLE

Dravokivich wrote: »

Please tell us Isa got Man of the match!

Dundon I think

molloyjh

Well the good news is that all of our home games for the first half of the season are Saturday evening games. Although given that I'm working in UCD I have to say the Friday evening games suited me down to the ground too.

http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/teams/leinster/fixtures.php

CatFromHue

There is another open training session on Carlow on Friday. The weekend after is the first friendly, it won't be long now til the season is up and running!

decisions

When do Leinster send out the season ticket stuff?

molloyjh

decisions wrote: »

When do Leinster send out the season ticket stuff?

The tickets themselves generally arrive in mid-August IIRC and then we pick up the packs at the first game.

CatFromHue

durkadurka wrote: »

The mind of joe:

https://twitter.com/colliemorugby/status/229174589589164032

There is an interview in Irish Rugby TV with Joe about his presentation:

http://www.irishrugby.ie/matchdaytv?play=media&id=12465

Conor O'Shea also has an interview about his presentation:

http://www.irishrugby.ie/matchdaytv?play=media&id=12463

Both are pretty interesting I thought.

Edit: Declan Kidney gave a presentation too and it would have been good to get an interview with him beforehand.

"Ireland head coach Declan Kidney delivered a detailed presentation on the build-up and Irish team performances in the summer tour of New Zealand. Performance analysis with videos were presented and discussed, with the attendees posing probing questions afterwards.

Declan highlighted the key challenges facing the Irish team in the short term but also Irish rugby development in the long term if the next Rugby World Cup and indeed the return tour to New Zealand are to be more successful."

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/26927.php

shuffol

CatFromHue wrote: »

There is an interview in Irish Rugby TV with Joe about his presentation:

http://www.irishrugby.ie/matchdaytv?play=media&id=12465

Conor O'Shea also has an interview about his presentation:

http://www.irishrugby.ie/matchdaytv?play=media&id=12463

Both are pretty interesting I thought.

Edit: Declan Kidney gave a presentation too and it would have been good to get an interview with him beforehand.

"Ireland head coach Declan Kidney delivered a detailed presentation on the build-up and Irish team performances in the summer tour of New Zealand. Performance analysis with videos were presented and discussed, with the attendees posing probing questions afterwards.

Declan highlighted the key challenges facing the Irish team in the short term but also Irish rugby development in the long term if the next Rugby World Cup and indeed the return tour to New Zealand are to be more successful."

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ireland/26927.php

There are a number of ways you could interpret that sentence.

Dravokivich

molloyjh wrote: »

The tickets themselves generally arrive in mid-August IIRC and then we pick up the packs at the first game.

The packs are avail for the first 2 home games aren't they?

molloyjh

Dravokivich wrote: »

The packs are avail for the first 2 home games aren't they?

They're probably available for the first few weeks I'd say. But even after a trip to Bruce I still miss the RDS already so won't be missing the first week myself!

tolosenc

molloyjh wrote: »

They're probably available for the first few weeks I'd say. But even after a trip to Bruce I still miss the RDS already so won't be missing the first week myself!

Missed the first home game in 2010 and never got mine

molloyjh

tolosenc wrote: »

Missed the first home game in 2010 and never got mine

Really? I thought they always gave people a couple of weeks...


So anyone any thoughts on who we're going to see next weekend? My guess:

1. VdM
2. Strauss
3. Hagan
4. Cullen
5. Toner
6. Ruddock
7. Ryan
8. Auva'a
9. Boss
10. Madigan
11. Carr
12. O'Shea
13. Macken
14. Conway
15. Nacewa

16. Dundon
17. McGrath
18. Moore
19. Denton
20. Murphy
21. Cooney
22. Reid
23. Hudson

Will be praying for everyone to come through these couple of weeks injury free. These are the guys that will be starting for us for a lot of the Rabo games between now and Christmas at least. We can't afford to be hit with injuries like we were at the start of last season. Locky and Cronin will probably be available a fair bit but ultimately the guys above are the ones we're going to rely on at least until Bent and Goodman arrive.

.ak

I'd bet a far more conservative team, with some of the A players starting. I'd bet we'd see a team more along the lines of:

1. McGrath
2. Dundon
3. Hagan
4. Denton
5. Toner
6. Murphy
7. Ryan
8. Auva'a
9. Cooney
10. Madigan/Reid
11. Carr
12. Reid/O'Shea
13. Macken
14. Hudson
15. Conway

16. Sexton
17. HvDM
18. Moore
19. Flanagan
20. Conan
21. Boss
22. Madigan
23. Nacewa


Basically same team, rejigged. I think they'd like to see how the A players start a game, with some time reserved for the senior guys.

Higher

Noel Reid is on the piss in Miami so I doubt he'll be there.

durkadurka

Higher wrote: »

Noel Reid is on the piss in Miami so I doubt he'll be there.

Is he injured? Why would he be allowed miss some pre season?

TheKeenMachine

.ak wrote: »

I'd bet a far more conservative team, with some of the A players starting. I'd bet we'd see a team more along the lines of:

1. McGrath
2. Dundon
3. Hagan
4. Denton
5. Toner
6. Murphy
7. Ryan
8. Auva'a
9. Cooney
10. Madigan/Reid
11. Carr
12. Reid/O'Shea
13. Macken
14. Hudson
15. Conway

16. Sexton
17. HvDM
18. Moore
19. Flanagan
20. Conan
21. Boss
22. Madigan
23. Nacewa


Basically same team, rejigged. I think they'd like to see how the A players start a game, with some time reserved for the senior guys.

I think that side is just too inexperienced to start a Pro 12 game, I'd expect two of VdM, Nacewa and Cullen to start. I also reckon Roux would be involved ahead of Flanagan.

armchaircoach

But it's not pro 12, it's just a pre season friendly.I'd be disappointed if we didn't see the likes of denton roux etc playing in this

molloyjh

armchaircoach wrote: »

But it's not pro 12, it's just a pre season friendly.I'd be disappointed if we didn't see the likes of denton roux etc playing in this

Roux isn't here yet though is he?

The reason I went with the squad I went with is because it's the only home game of pre-season and it's not in the RDS so they'll probably try to sell it as much as possible. The away games will probably see more experimentation.

tolosenc

molloyjh wrote: »

Roux isn't here yet though is he?

Yesterday, he tweeted "@robert_herring2 comming next wednesday bro,wil meet up soon.."

Whether that means today, I don't know.

armchaircoach

molloyjh wrote: »

Roux isn't here yet though is he?

The reason I went with the squad I went with is because it's the only home game of pre-season and it's not in the RDS so they'll probably try to sell it as much as possible. The away games will probably see more experimentation.

For the home crowd you might be right that they'll put out a few stars, but I think we'll see plenty puff the new guys as well. Does anyone know if there is a sub limit on these games, or are they just treated as exhibitions?

Anyway only a week and a half till we get the action started all over again

Hagz

There'll be more than a 23 man squad, more like 28 or 29.

1. Heinke van der Merwe
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Jamie Hagan
4. Leo Cullen
5. Devin Toner
6. Dominic Ryan
7. Shane Jennings
8. Leo Auva'a
9. Isaac Boss
10. Ian Madigan
11. Fionn Carr
12. Colm O'Shea
13. Brendan Macken
14. Andrew Conway
15. Isa Nacewa

16. Aaron Dundon
17. Jack McGrath
18. Martin Moore
19. Mark Flanagan
20. Tom Denton
21. Jordi Murphy
22. Jordan Coghlan
23. Ben Marshall
24. John Cooney
25. Noel Reid
26. Darren Hudson
27. Andrew Boyle

Actually, there's not even a sub limit. A lot of players will feature.

TheKeenMachine

armchaircoach wrote: »

But it's not pro 12, it's just a pre season friendly.I'd be disappointed if we didn't see the likes of denton roux etc playing in this

Got my wires crossed completely there. I was thinking it was a very early start to the reason alright.

CIARAN_BOYLE

molloyjh wrote: »

6. Ruddock

injured at the moment

vienne86

decisions wrote: »

When do Leinster send out the season ticket stuff?

Mine has just arrived in the post.

durkadurka

That's early for Leinster. I've been known to get mine the week before the season starts..


Edit: mine just arrived

Teferi

Yep, mine arrived this morning too.

.ak

Mine too. Like the new design...

molloyjh

tolosenc wrote: »

Yesterday, he tweeted "@robert_herring2 comming next wednesday bro,wil meet up soon.."

Whether that means today, I don't know.

I'd assume that means the 08th. Still that means he'll be available for the start of the season which is good news.

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

injured at the moment

You're right, forgot about that. Hagz probably has it spot on in his so.

totallegend

Possibly posted already, but 4,000 tickets have been sold for the game in Tallaght, that's a brilliant achievement for any pre-season friendly but for a game in the one of the most un-rugby parts of the city, it's phenomenal.

Teferi

Hopefully a lot of them aren't already Leinster/rugby fans and we get a few converts!

.ak

That's amazing actually. Don't think the Saints or Rebels game got near that last season.

(It's not "un-rugby")

durkadurka

Plenty of rugby fans in tallaght. Don't believe the stereotype

dregin

Is there a similar deal to last year on tickets for the Gloucester game? (4 for the price of 3)

Teferi

durkadurka wrote: »

Plenty of rugby fans in tallaght. Don't believe the stereotype

Has anyone said anything like that about the game?

I was thinking that for the price someone who wouldn't make the trip to the RDS might see it and head in.

totallegend

durkadurka wrote: »

Plenty of rugby fans in tallaght. Don't believe the stereotype

Sigh.

Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

[@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]

Dravokivich

totallegend wrote: »

Sigh.

Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

[@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]

It means the same thing though doesn't it? That is just pushing the stereotype out even more.

durkadurka

totallegend wrote: »

Sigh.

Would "not one of the traditional strongholds of rugby in the city" have been more acceptable?

[@ emmet, I didn't say it was "un-rugby" by the way, I said it was "one of the most un-rugby parts of the city", which it is.]

It's not a big deal, you'd be surprised by the numbers of supporters from there that's all.

Morf

The open training session has been changed from 12 to 12.45pm tomorrow at Co. Carlow Football Club, Oak Park.

totallegend

durkadurka wrote: »

It's not a big deal, you'd be surprised by the numbers of supporters from there that's all.

No, I wouldn't, I know that there are a lot of rugby fans out there and I didn't say otherwise.

But it is NOT a traditional rugby area. That's not a stereotype, it's a fact. The rugby fans are vastly outnumbered by soccer and GAA fans.

Hence, I was saying it was great to see so many tickets being sold for a nothing match out there.

I know it's a quiet time on the rugby board but I don't see the argument.

padser

Teferi wrote: »

Hopefully a lot of them aren't already Leinster/rugby fans and we get a few converts!

Absolutely, I'm really looking forward to the day when we convert all the soccer fans to Rugby (let's be fair, Tallaght is a soccer stronghold) and then we have to partition stadiums to keep rival fams apart and have special buses in and out of cities because of all the trouble at games.

durkadurka

totallegend wrote: »

No, I wouldn't, I know that there are a lot of rugby fans out there and I didn't say otherwise.

But it is NOT a traditional rugby area. That's not a stereotype, it's a fact. The rugby fans are vastly outnumbered by soccer and GAA fans.

Hence, I was saying it was great to see so many tickets being sold for a nothing match out there.

I know it's a quiet time on the rugby board but I don't see the argument.

We're splitting hairs at this stage on a nothing issue and I'm not really that argumentative so I'll leave it there.

One reason for the good sales is probably the very good family deals- kids for a fiver etc. bringing my own durka jr to his first Leinster game.