2012-13 UEFA Champions League

Francie Barrett

Great assist from McGeady to send Spartak into the group stages.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/1-0-spartak-moscow-ari-v-fenerbahce-aiden-mcgeady-assist/

Professional Griefer

4:45 our time tomorrow is it?

GavRedKing

citytillidie wrote: »

Group Stage Seeding from Wiki so not 100% sure if correct

Pot 1
Chelsea (ENG)
Barcelona (ESP)
Man United (ENG)
Bayern Muchen (GER)
Real Madrid (ESP)
Arsenal (ENG)
FC Porto (POR)
AC Milan (ITA)

Pot 2
Valencia (ESP)
Benfica (POR)
Shakhtat Donetsk (UKR)
Zenit St Petersburg (RUS)
Shalke 04 (GER)
Man City (ENG)
SC Braga (POR)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)

Pot 3
Olympiacos (GRE)
Ajax Amesterdam (NED)
RSC Anderlecht (BEL)
Juventus (ITA)
FC Spartak Moskva (RUS)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA)
LOSC Lille Métropole (FRA)
Galatasaray (TUR)


Pot 4
Celtic FC (SCO)
Borussia Dortrmund (GER)
FC BATE Borisov (BLR)
GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO)
CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
Málaga CF (ESP)
Montpellier (FRA)
Nordsjaellan (DEN)

What I want :

Pot 1
Chelsea (ENG)

Pot 2
SC Braga (POR)

Pot 3
RSC Anderlecht (BEL)

Pot 4
Nordsjaellan (DEN)

What I want to avoid :

Pot 1
Chelsea (ENG)

Pot 2
Shakhtat Donetsk (UKR)

Pot 3
Juventus (ITA)

Pot 4
Borussia Dortrmund (GER)

That pot 3 is looking fairly handy, some good teams I'd like to avoid.

mitosis

First post in soccer!!

How does it work the the English Champs are seeded lower than the runner up when they went out of Europe at the same stage last year? I can understand the Italians with Juventus not being in Europe for years.

Some slippery customers in pot 3 though.

ArmaniJeanss

mitosis wrote: »

First post in soccer!!

How does it work the the English Champs are seeded lower than the runner up when they went out of Europe at the same stage last year? I can understand the Italians with Juventus not being in Europe for years.

Some slippery customers in pot 3 though.

Its decided by UEFA club coefficent which is a rolling 5 year calculation of teams performance in the CL and the Europa league.

Francie Barrett

mitosis wrote: »

First post in soccer!!

How does it work the the English Champs are seeded lower than the runner up when they went out of Europe at the same stage last year? I can understand the Italians with Juventus not being in Europe for years.

Some slippery customers in pot 3 though.

Points are based on performances in Europe from the last 5 years. Man City obviously only have points from last year, so are at a disadvantage for the time being at least.

citytillidie

mitosis wrote: »

First post in soccer!!

How does it work the the English Champs are seeded lower than the runner up when they went out of Europe at the same stage last year? I can understand the Italians with Juventus not being in Europe for years.

Some slippery customers in pot 3 though.

Seeding goes on a 5 year record and Man City dont have 5 years in a row of being in Europe, only reason they are so high is because of the base seeding for England.

Here is every team with there ranking points

Pot 1 coef.

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Chelsea (TH) Eng 135.882
FC Barcelona Esp 157.837
Manchester United Eng 141.882
Bayern München Ger 133.037
Real Madrid Esp 121.837
Arsenal Eng 113.882
FC Porto Por 98.069
AC Milan Ita 89.996

Pot 2 coef.

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Valencia Esp 89.837
Benfica Por 87.069
Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 84.026
Zenit St. Petersburg Rus 79.066
Schalke 04 Ger 78.037
Manchester City Eng 63.882
Sporting Braga Por 63.069
Dinamo Kiev Ukr 62.026

Pot 3 coef.

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Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 61.420
Ajax Ned 58.103
Anderlecht Bel 48.480
Juventus Ita 46.996
Spartak Moscow Rus 46.066
Paris Saint-Germain Fra 45.835
Lille OSC Fra 38.835
Galatasaray Tur 38.310

Pot 4 coef.

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Celtic Sco 32.728
Borussia Dortmund Ger 31.037
BATE Borisov Bls 29.641
Dinamo Zagreb Cro 24.774
CFR Cluj Rom 18.764
Málaga CF Esp 16.837
Montpellier Fra 11.835
FC Nordsjælland Den 8.005

Thanks to http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/seedcl2012.html

JP Liz V1

MC could have a tough group again this season

Paully D

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

4:45 our time tomorrow is it?

Listed as 4:30pm start time for the coverage of the draw but by the time they stop talking bollocks and get started it'll probably be around 9:30pm.

batistuta9

Paully D wrote: »

Listed as 4:30pm start time for the coverage of the draw but by the time they stop talking bollocks and get started it'll probably be around 9:30pm.

it's not starting on eurosport till 4:45

i think the draws at 5pm

SlickRic

Real
City
PSG
Malaga

please.

the "Group of Money".

EDIT: damn, Malaga and Real can't be in the same group. fail.

Seaneh

Aren't Malaga broke?

Liam O

I'd say United are pretty much guaranteed to get Dortmund for the Kagawa factor, after that it's like picking teams out of a hat

SlickRic

Seaneh wrote: »

Aren't Malaga broke?

they are now.

i'm fully aware that my theory has flaws

of which, now, we've spotted at least 2.

citytillidie

Arsenal to get Celtic after their last play off meeting

batistuta9

citytillidie wrote: »

Arsenal to get Celtic after their last play off meeting

the time eduardo was blamed for diving when he didn't

SlickRic

City and PSG in the same group would be a bit mental; just to count up the cumulative salaries.

adamski8

steve mcmanaman! odd choice

Whippersnapper

It's at the point now where I don't care who gets who in the draw.

CongoPowers

Hoping for Ajax anyway, have never met them in an official game.

evad_lhorg

Who is the girl hosting...?:D

v3ttel

Pot 3 & Pot 4 have some very strong sides.

As a United fan, I'd hope to avoid PSG & Juventus in Pot 3. Dortmund & to a lesser extent, Malaga in pot 4.

Not being able to play the standout strongest second pot side is nice. Valencia and Benfica are probably the strongest of the rest.

Hopefully no trips away to Ukraine & Russia, given that United are away after 5 of the 6 CL group games.

Paully D

Hopefully Sunderland get an easy draw :pac:

brianregan09

how did City jump up a pot from last year when they did F all in europe last year ??

Nailz

I will like to thank SSN for skipping that guy talking crap.

homerjay2005

i dont see the need to pick the group number separately? surely just picking in order as drawn out would save alot of hassle...

NUTZZ

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont see the need to pick the group number separately? surely just picking in order as drawn out would save alot of hassle...

I think it's just to further distance itself from any possible fixing.

grohlisagod

Anyone know why there was only 3 groups available to Barca when they were the third team out?

Fowler87

adamski8 wrote: »

steve mcmanaman! odd choice

Uefa ambassador plus he's won a couple European cups

Paully D

adamski8 wrote: »

steve mcmanaman! odd choice

No subtitles when he talks either :eek:

TheTownie

So Man City will be with either Real, Porto, or Milan.

adamski8

her neck being bigger than her head is distracting

TheTownie

grohlisagod wrote: »

Anyone know why there was only 3 groups available to Barca when they were the third team out?

TV scheduling reason.

Justin10

I hate how the draw has turned out to be a show. Just get on with it.

citytillidie

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont see the need to pick the group number separately? surely just picking in order as drawn out would save alot of hassle...

It is to do with tv and policing and such.

Like in England Chelsea and Arsenal cant be in the same group section as each other so one is paired with Man City and the other with Man Utd.

sob1467

Rochey18 wrote: »

I hate how the draw has turned out to be a show. Just get on with it.

+1

Benimar

grohlisagod wrote: »

Anyone know why there was only 3 groups available to Barca when they were the third team out?

They have to be in the opposite side of the draw to Real Madrid. UEFA 'pair' teams for TV purposes to make sure they play on different nights.

Same reason Chelsea and Arsenal were kept on seperate sides.

Paully D

George Weah :cool:

adamski8

they need grips on those balls

Jimmy Iovine

George isn't great at this.

Justin10

A low of sweating going on with them balls.

grohlisagod

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

George isn't great at this.

Think he's getting the hang of it now!

CongoPowers

Not bad at all.

Nailz

Nice one, Steve.

adamski8

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

George isn't great at this.

dont dis george,
its the balls that are slippery!

cson

citytillidie wrote: »

It is to do with tv and policing and such.

Like in England Chelsea and Arsenal cant be in the same group section as each other so one is paired with Man City and the other with Man Utd.

Draw is a very loose word then.

Ah UEFA... the closest organisational equivilent to a Banana Republic going.

CongoPowers

City-Madrid!

Nailz

Well done, Steve!

Nuri Sahin

Rochey18 wrote: »

I hate how the draw has turned out to be a show. Just get on with it.

Needs some pyro and entrance music.

City and Real!

Jimmy Iovine

Madrid and City. Massive games there.