The most disturbing story I have read in a very long time

fortwilliam

Whatever happened that night, consentual or not, medicated blackouts or not, this sends shivers up my spine.

Jury finds man guilty of raping his 65-year old mother

A MAN who claimed his 65-year-old mother consented to having sex with him on Mother’s Day has been found guilty of raping her.
The 45-year-old Dublin man had pleaded not guilty at the Central Criminal Court to raping the woman at her home between March 2 and 3, 2008.
The jury of four men and eight women took just over four hours of deliberations across two days to return a verdict of guilty.
Mr Justice Barry White said it was not often a jury had to encounter a trial as “distasteful and sordid” as this one and excused the jurors from further service for life.
He remanded the man in continuing custody for sentencing on October 1 and ordered that he be registered as a sex offender.
He also ordered that a victim impact report be made available to the court.
During three days of evidence the court heard that the accused admitted having sex with his mother on the evening of Mother’s Day but claimed it was consensual and that one thing had “led to another”.
The court heard the woman, who lives alone, was awaiting surgery. She was taking a number of medications, including a strong opiate painkiller, a sleeping tablet and a strong benzodiazapam.
On Mother’s Day she had attended a local social event during the day during which she drank three “small bottles” of wine and ate a four course meal.
The woman said she left the event at around 8pm and went home, took a sleeping tablet and went to bed with a book. She said she was still reading at about 11pm when her son rang the doorbell.
She said he was very persistent and asked her to come downstairs to have a drink with her because it was still Mother's Day.
She told Gerard Clarke SC, prosecuting, that her son found some vodka and poured drinks. They were talking and then he put on a Joe Dolan CD. She said her son asked her to dance and she did but then sat down again.
The victim said she must have blacked out then because she doesn't know how she ended up on the floor with her son on top of her and having sex with her.
She said: “When I realised what was happening I said leave me alone. I kept saying leave me alone”.
She said afterwards she thought he was going to do it again.
She said she wanted him to get out of the house and when he left she was unable to lift herself up off the floor because of her hip problems.
Defence counsel Giollaíosa Ó Lideadha SC put it to the woman that the combination of alcohol, medication and a “very complicated history between you and (the accused)” caused confusion in her mind.
Her son told the court that he had gone to her house that evening to borrow money but they had a drink together and she began dancing. He claimed she told him she loved him and began kissing him on the mouth.
He claimed the kissing became more intense and serious and they were both touching each other. He claimed his mother continued to kiss him while he had sex with her on the floor of her living room.
He said they both laughed when she couldn’t get up off the floor afterwards. He said he tried to help her up but she wanted to stay there and he had to leave

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/jury-finds-man-guilty-of-raping-his-65year-old-mother-3158939.html

Agent Smith

fortwilliam wrote: »

Whatever happened that night, consentual or not, medicated blackouts or not, this sends shivers up my spine.


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/jury-finds-man-guilty-of-raping-his-65year-old-mother-3158939.html

Sums this entire story up

mikom

fortwilliam wrote: »

Jury finds man guilty of raping his 65-year old mother

A MAN who claimed his 65-year-old mother consented to having sex with him on Mother’s Day has been found guilty of raping her.
The 45-year-old Dublin man had pleaded not guilty at the Central Criminal

Mr Justice Barry White said it was not often a jury had to encounter a trial as “distasteful and sordid” as this one and excused the jurors from further service for life.

Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_tBj7I8SLc

hondasam

While it's not a very nice story it's not the most disturbing story I have ever read. There was obviously some history between mother and son.
Sex with your mother or father is wrong consensual or not.

ziggy23

That is a vile story absoloutely no excuse for it:eek:

Mance Rayder

How bad does it make you feel?

ColeTrain

ziggy23 wrote: »

absoloutely no excuse for it:eek:

Yeah owning a Joe Dolan CD is fu*ked on so many levels.

B.A._Baracus

Mance Rayder wrote: »

How bad does it make you feel?

What a creepy thing to ask ....

ziggy23

ColeTrain wrote: »

Yeah owning a Joe Dolan CD is fu*ked on so many levels.

Wonder which song it was??
Oh me oh my you make me smile you're such a good lookin woman:pac::pac::o

mikom

ziggy23 wrote: »

Wonder which song it was??
Oh me oh my you make me smile you're such a good lookin woman:pac::pac::o

"There's no blow like a joe blow"

grindle

Dirty motherfucker.

Mance Rayder

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

What a creepy thing to ask ....

Talk to Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9oiO6RVKrU

up for anything

hondasam wrote: »

While it's not a very nice story it's not the most disturbing story I have ever read. There was obviously some history between mother and son.
Sex with your mother or father is wrong consensual or not.

Of course there was some history between mother and son unless she had had him adopted at birth but I get that's probably not what you're getting at but just wondering how you made that out from what was written in the article.

What I inferred from the article was that she was scared of him to start with. Also the bit about her preferring to stay on the floor was a bit suss. Seems to me like she didn't want him touching her again in case the contact encouraged him to rape her again. Taking a rape case against your own child must be a traumatic action and if they had some 'history' then why would she bother?

shopaholic01

up for anything wrote: »

Of course there was some history between mother and son unless she had had him adopted at birth but I get that's probably not what you're getting at but just wondering how you made that out from what was written in the article.

What I inferred from the article was that she was scared of him to start with. Also the bit about her preferring to stay on the floor was a bit suss. Seems to me like she didn't want him touching her again in case the contact encouraged him to rape her again. Taking a rape case against your own child must be a traumatic action and if they had some 'history' then why would she bother?

Exactly, to include as part of your defence that she wanted to stay on the floor as she couldn't get up due to hip problems. She was obviously terrified, didn't want him to touch her again and wanted him to leave.

Sad story and unfortunately she now has to live with the publicity.

spoofilyj

Just yuk yuk yuk!

How messed up is that guy!

prinz

up for anything wrote: »

Of course there was some history between mother and son unless she had had him adopted at birth but I get that's probably not what you're getting at but just wondering how you made that out from what was written in the article.

There could well be more to it. Or maybe not. It could have been innocent on the mother's side, and taken up completely wrong by a man who's possibly not quite well-adjusted, if his stories of her beating him with a belt as a child are to be believed.

The man’s brother gave evidence that he had noticed the accused and their mother acting in an intimate way before at a social event.
He told defense counsel: “They were looking into the eyes. There was a touching of hands. It didn’t seem right”.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/man-tells-jury-he-had-consensual-sex-with-his-mother-3155426.html

Bad Panda

People like this so called 'son' should be used as organ donors for sick children.

davet82

i may have heard this wrong on the radio but did his brother give evidence in his defence?

Blondini

spoofilyj wrote: »

Just yuk yuk yuk!

How messed up is that guy!

Not as messed up as His Ma afterwards ... Mwah Mwah wink wink

SeaFields

shopaholic01 wrote: »

Sad story and unfortunately she now has to live with the publicity.

Thankfully in cases like this the names of the accused and victim are withheld in order to protect the victim. She still obviously has to live with it but at least the tabloids cant splash their details all over the place.

Pottler

You gotta hate it when the mammy changes her mind about the ride.. feckin tease. On another level though, eeeuuurrrghhhhjasus...

rgmmg

Bad Panda wrote: »

People like this so called 'son' should be used as organ donors for sick children.

He's a sick organ donor :pac:

Fizman

super_furry

In fairness, did the Independent really need to into the full gory details?

I don't know why, but I laughed at the mention of the Joe Dolan CD. Joe Dolan, the white Barry White.

Kidchameleon

Her word against his. If I was on the jury it would be a problem. Id have to say innocent, unless they have more details than us

My name is URL

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Her word against his. If I was on the jury it would be a problem. Id have to say innocent, unless they have more details than us

Well I'd imagine they would have had more details than us.. being present for the trial and all.

MetalDog

Over to you, Samuel . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh7GTyFJQAw

King of Kings

My name is URL wrote: »

Well I'd imagine they would have had more details than us.. being present for the trial and all.

This was the 2nd trial as a previous jury couldn't find a verdict so I reckon it was a weak case - as in her word against his.


sick ****er either way.

allanb49

gonna find my baby gonna hold her tight gonna grab some afternoon delight

davet82

King of Kings wrote: »

This was the 2nd trial as a previous jury couldn't find a verdict so I reckon it was a weak case - as in her word against his.


sick ****er either way.

thats right, its the same case i'm thinking of, the guys brother, the victims other son had testified that they were unusally close in an inappropriate kind of way or something along the lines...

either way you're right, he is a sick fcuker