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2012-13 Europa League

  • 05-07-2012 2:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭


    We have the Champions League thread so here's this season's Europa League. Final to be played at the Amsterdam Arena.

    First Qualifying Round first leg is today! Expect for two games which were played two days ago.

    Narva Trans v Inter Baku

    MTK Budapest v Senica

    Tirana v Grevenmacher

    Torpedo Kutaisi v Aktobe

    Borac Banja Luka v Čelik Nikšić

    Baku v Mura 05

    Elfsborg v Floriana

    Renova v Libertas

    FC Santa Coloma v Osijek

    Jagodina v Ordabasy

    Differdange 03 v NSÍ Runavík

    Crusaders v Rosenborg

    Cefn Druids v MYPA

    Levadia Tallinn v Šiauliai

    Bohemians v Þór Akureyri

    Sarajevo v Hibernians

    FC Twente v UE Santa Coloma

    Rudar Pljevlja v Shirak

    Flamurtari Vlorë v Honvéd

    Dacia Chişinău v Celje

    Sūduva Marijampolė v Daugava

    KuPS v Llanelli

    Cliftonville v Kalmar FF

    Víkingur 0-6 Gomel

    FH v Eschen/Mauren

    Lech Poznań v Zhetysu

    Khazar Lankaran v Nõmme Kalju

    Birkirkara v Metalurg Skopje

    Pyunik v Zeta

    Teuta Durrës v Metalurgi Rustavi

    Olimpija Ljubljana v Jeunesse Esch

    EB/Streymur v Gandzasar

    St. Patrick's Athletic v ÍBV

    La Fiorita v Liepājas Metalurgs

    JJK v Stabæk

    Bangor City v Zimbru Chişinău

    Shkëndija 0-0 Portadown

    Games which may be of interest to some in bold.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭BKC


    Usually a few good bets in mismatched ties in these earlier rounds.

    Hope the two Irish teams can get through!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Results from Thursday

    Xazar Lankaran FK (AZE) 2-2 Nomme Kalju (EST)

    FK Jagodina (SRB) 0-1 Ordabasy Shymkent (KAZ)

    Trans Narva (EST) 0-5 Inter Baku (AZE)

    KuPS Kuopio (FIN) 2-1 Llanelli AFC (WAL)

    FK Renova (MKD) 4-0 AC Libertas (SMR)

    FK Rudar Pljevlja (MNE) 0-1 Shirak (ARM)

    Tallinn (EST) 1-0 FC Siauliai (LTU)

    Pyunik (ARM) 0-3 FK Zeta (MNE)

    JJK Jyvaskyla (FIN) 2-0 Stabaek (NOR)

    Elfsborg (SWE) 8-0 Floriana (MLT)

    FK Suduva (LTU) 0-1 FC Daugava (LVA)

    Differdange (LUX) 3-0 NSI Runavik (FRO)

    Dacia Chisinau (MDA) 1-0 NK Celje (SVN)

    Birkirkara (MLT) 2-2 Metalurg Skopje (MKD)

    Baku FK (AZE) 0-0 NK Mura (SVN)

    Torpedo Kutaisi (GEO) 1-1 FC Aktobe (KAZ)

    KF Tirana (ALB) 2-0 Grevenmacher (LUX)

    FC Santa Coloma (AND) 0-1 NK Osijek (CRO)

    Sarajevo (BIH) 5-2 Hibernians (MLT)

    FC Twente (NED) 6-0 UE Santa Coloma (AND)

    Olimpija Ljubljana (SVN) 3-0 Jeunesse Esch (LUX)

    MTK Budapest (HUN) 1-1 FK Senica (SVK)

    Lech Poznan (POL) 2-0 Zhetysu Taldykorgan (KAZ)

    EB/Streymur (FRO) 3-1 Gandzasar Kapan (ARM)

    Flamurtari (ALB) 0-1 Budapest Honved (HUN)

    La Fiorita (SMR) 0-2 Liepajas Metalurgs (LVA)

    KS Teuta (ALB) 0-3 Metalurgi Rustavi (GEO)

    Cefn Druids (WAL) 0-0 Myllykosken (FIN)

    Cliftonville (NIR) 1-0 Kalmar FF (SWE)

    Bangor City (WAL) 0-0 Zimbru Chisinau (MDA)

    Saint Patrick’s (IRL) 1-0 Vestmannaeyjar (ISL)

    Bohemians (IRL) 0-0 Thor Akureyri (ISL)

    Crusaders FC (NIR) 0-3 Rosenborg (NOR)

    Borac Banja Luka (BIH) 2-2 Celik Niksic (MNE)

    Hafnarfjordur (ISL) 2-1 Eschen-Mauren (LIE)


    Floriana of Malta took the worse beating losing 8-0 to Elfsborg.

    UE Santa Coloma of Andorra may have relished facing the more illustrious FC Twente but game went to form with a 6-0 thrashing.

    Cliftonville with a very commendable win over Kalmar FF of Sweden.

    Return legs on the 10th and 12th of July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Games tonight
    Floriana (MLT) V Elfborg (SEW)
    Grevenmacher (LUX) V KF Tirana (ALB)
    Nomme Kalju (EST) V Xazar Lankaran FK (AZE)
    Portadown (NIR) V Shkendija 79 (MAC)

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭RayCon


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Floriana of Malta took the worse beating losing 8-0 to Elfsborg.

    Balls ... honestly thought this was gonna be Floriana's year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Games tonight
    Floriana (MLT) 0-4 Elfborg (SWE)
    Grevenmacher (LUX) 0-0 KF Tirana (ALB)
    Nomme Kalju (EST) 0-2 Xazar Lankaran FK (AZE)
    Portadown (NIR) 2-1Shkendija 79 (MAC)

    With results. Bolded teams the first through.

    Elfsborg win 4-0 making it 12-0 on aggregate. Tirana's draw in Luxembourg gets them through 2-0. Lankaran through 4-2. And fair play to Portadown they're through to face NK Slaven Belupo of Croatia. The Croatian's club coach was unconcerned who won the game believing his team to be better than both of them.

    The remainder of the games tonight!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Results from the remainder of the first qualifiying games' second legs. Team in bold are through.

    Zhetysu Taldykorgan 1 - 1 Lech Poznan

    FC Metalurgi Rustavi
    6 - 1 Teuta Durres

    Ordabasy Shymkent 0 - 0 Jagodina

    Shirak 1 - 1 Rudar Pljevlja

    Aktobe 1 - 0 Torpedo Kutaisi

    Fk Metalurg Skopje 0 - 0 Birkirkara

    Gandzasar 2 - 0 EB/Streymur

    Celik 1 - 1 Borac Banjaluka

    FC Daugava 2 - 3 Suduva

    Gomel 4 - 0 Vikingur

    Inter Baku 2 - 0 Narva JK Trans

    Jeunesse Esch 0 - 3 Olimpija Ljubljana

    L. Metalurgs
    4 - 0 La Fiorita Montegiardino

    Siauliai 2 - 1 Tallinna FC Levadia

    MyPa 5 - 0 Cefn Druids AFC

    Zimbru 2 - 1 Bangor City

    Kalmar 4 - 0 Cliftonville

    Rosenborg
    1 - 0 Crusaders

    Stabaek 3 - 2 Jyvaskyla JK

    Eschen/Mauren 0 - 1 Hafnarfjordur

    FK Senica 2 - 1MTK Budapest

    Hibernians 4 - 4 FK Sarajevo

    Llanelli 1 - 1 KuPS Kuopio

    NSI Runavik 0 - 3 Differdang03

    UE Santa Coloma 0 - 3 FC Twente Enschede

    NK Mura 2 - 0 FK Baku

    NK Osijek 3 - 1 FC Santa Coloma

    Publikum Celje 0 - 1 Dacia Chisinau

    Zeta Golubovci 1 - 2 Pyunik

    Budapest Honved 2 - 0 Flamurtari

    SP Libertas 0 - 4 Renova

    Thor A 5 - 1 Bohemian FC

    Vestmannaeyar 2 - 1 St. Patricks

    Iceland did well this time around sending two teams through to the next round.

    FK Sarajevo beat Hibernians (of the Maltese variety) 9-6 on aggregate.....

    Elfsborg's 12-0 aggregate win the largest.

    Metalurgi Rustavi's 6-1 win the best result of the 2nd legs.

    Cliftonville couldn't follow follow their surprise win going up to Sweden going down 4-0 in the 2nd leg.

    Second round fixtures up next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Second round qualifiers to be played on the 19th and 26th if July. Games which may be of interest to some in bold.

    Khazar Lankaran (Azerbaijan) v (Poland) Lech Poznań

    Eskişehirspor (Turkey) v (Scotland) St. Johnstone

    Hajduk Split (Croatia) v (Latvia) Skonto

    AIK (Sweden) v (Iceland) FH

    Renova (Macedonia) v (Belarus) Gomel

    Naftan Novopolotsk (Belarus) v (Serbia) Red Star Belgrade

    Vojvodina (Serbia) v (Lithuania) Sūduva Marijampolė

    JJK (Finland) v (Montenegro) Zeta

    Young Boys (Switzerland) v (Moldova) Zimbru Chişinău

    Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria) v (Netherlands) Vitesse

    Tirana (Albania) v (Norway) Aalesund

    Metalurh Donetsk (Ukraine) v (Montenegro) Čelik Nikšić

    Maccabi Netanya (Israel) v (Finland) KuPS

    Mladá Boleslav (Czech Republic) v (Iceland) Þór Akureyri

    Levadia Tallinn (Estonia) v (Cyprus) Anorthosis

    Milsami Orhei (Moldova) v (Kazakhstan) Aktobe

    Slaven Belupo (Croatia) v (Northern Ireland) Portadown

    Servette (Switzerland) v (Armenia) Gandzasar

    Twente (Netherlands) v (Finland) Inter Turku

    Žalgiris Vilnius (Lithuania) v (Austria) Admira Wacker Mödling

    Osijek (Croatia) v (Sweden) Kalmar FF

    Slovan Bratislava (Slovakia) v (Hungary) Videoton

    Rapid București (Romania) v (Finland) MYPA

    Viktoria Plzeň (Czech Republic) v (Georgia) Metalurgi Rustavi

    Mura 05 (Slovenia) v (Bulgaria) CSKA Sofia

    Inter Baku (Azerbaijan) v (Greece) Asteras Tripolis

    Gent (Belgium) v (Luxembourg) Differdange 03

    Anzhi Makhachkala (Russia) v (Hungary) Honvéd


    Levski Sofia (Bulgaria) v (Bosnia and Herzegovina) Sarajevo

    Liepājas Metalurgs (Latvia) v (Poland) Legia Warsaw

    Shakhtyor Salihorsk (Belarus) v (Austria) Ried

    Bnei Yehuda (Israel) v (Armenia) Shirak

    Rosenborg (Norway) v (Kazakhstan) Ordabasy

    Spartak Trnava (Slovakia) v (Ireland) Sligo Rovers


    Dacia Chişinău (Moldova) v (Sweden) Elfsborg

    Široki Brijeg (Bosnia and Herzegovina) v (Ireland) St. Patrick's Athletic


    APOEL (Cyprus) v (Slovakia) Senica

    Ruch Chorzów (Poland) v (Macedonia) Metalurg Skopje

    AGF (Denmark) v (Georgia) Dila Gori

    Olimpija Ljubljana (Slovenia) v (Norway) Tromsø

    Teams awaiting the winners in the next round include the likes of Inter, Liverpool, Athletic Bilbao and Marseille.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Siroki Brijeg are a Croat club in the Bosnian league. They would be fairly handy so Pats have a tough job on their hands (indeed so have Sligo with their Slovakian team) but after visiting Bosnia I always found the Muslim population there a lot more friendly.

    Tough draws.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭celtictiger32


    just out of curiosity, i can understand why the irish teams are highlighted above but why are the welsh clubs and selected others?..............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    just out of curiosity, i can understand why the irish teams are highlighted above but why are the welsh clubs and selected others?..............

    People can have a general interest in teams from Britain, also Irish fans might like to compare Irish clubs against their neighbours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Results from Thursday night's games.

    Anzhi Makhachkala 1 - 0 Kispest Honved

    FC Milsami 4 - 2 Aktobe Lento

    FK Metalurgs 2 - 2 Legia Warsaw

    Khazar Lenkoran 1 - 1 Lech Poznan

    Naftan Novopolotsk 3 - 4 Red Star Belgrade

    Lokomotiv Plovdiv 4 - 4 Vitesse Arnhem

    Renova 0 - 2 Gomel

    FC Levadia Tallinn 1 - 3 Anorthosis Famagusta

    Inter Baku 1 - 1 Asteras Tripolis

    JJK 3 - 2 Zeta

    Metalurgi Rustavi 1 - 3 Viktoria Plzen

    Olimpija Ljubljana 0 - 0 Tromso

    FC 03 Differdange 0 - 1 KAA Gent

    Shakhter Soligorsk 1 - 1 SV Josko Ried

    AGF Aarhus 1 - 2 Dila Gori

    AIK 1 - 1 FH Hafnarfjordur

    Apoel Nicosia 2 - 0 FK Senica


    Bnei Yehuda 2 - 0 Shirak

    Eskisehirspor K 2 - 0 St Johnstone

    FC Spartak Trnava 3 - 1 Sligo Rovers


    Levski Sofia 1 - 0 FK Sarajevo

    Metalurg Donetsk 7 - 0 Celik

    Mlada Boleslav 3 - 0 Thor

    Rosenborg 2 - 2 Ordabasy Shymkent

    Ruch Chorzow 3 - 1 Metalurg

    SK Tirana 1 - 1 Aalesund

    Slaven Belupo Koprivnica 6 - 0 Portadown


    FC Dacia 1 - 0 Elfsborg

    Rapid Bucuresti 3 - 1 MyPa

    VMFD Zalgiris 1 - 1 FC Trenkwalder Admira

    Young Boys 1 - 0 Zimbru Chisinau

    Servette 2 - 0 Gandzasar Kapan

    FC Twente 1 - 1 FC Inter Turku

    Maccabi Netanya 1 - 2 KuPS Kuopio

    Mura 0 - 0 CSKA Sofia

    Osijek 1 - 3 Kalmar FF

    Slovan Bratislava 1 - 1 Videoton FC Fehervar

    Hajduk Split 2 - 0 Skonto Riga

    Vojvodina 1 - 1 FK Suduva

    Siroki Brijeg 1 - 1 St Patricks Athletic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    I watched the Pat's match online on thursday. It was one of the best away performances Irish side away in Europe. I'd say the Bosnians probably thought we'd hoof up to a big man. To see Pat's pass their way through Siroki was a joy.

    They literally equalised with the last play of the match. They scored, we kicked off and the ref blew the whistle for fulltime.

    I hope that stupid goal doesn't come back to haunt us. We haven't lost at Richmond Park in Europe for over a decade and we can repeat that performance, we'll go through. Here's hoping.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭BKC


    Excellent result for Mura 05 as they draw 1-1 with CSKA Sofia and go through on away goals. Nice little run for them seeing as they were heavily expected to go out in the first round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Third Qualifying Round 1st legs tomorrow with the return legs the following Thursday. Winners go through to the Playoff Round where a place in the Europa League group stages will be at stake.

    Videoton (Hungary) v (Belgium) Gent
    AIK (Sweden) v (Poland) Lech Poznań
    Eskişehirspor (Turkey) v (France) Marseille
    Red Star Belgrade (Serbia) v (Cyprus) Omonia
    FK Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina) v (Montenegro) Zeta
    Admira Wacker Mödling (Austria) v (Czech Republic) Sparta Prague
    Kalmar FF (Sweden) v (Switzerland) Young Boys
    Dundee United (Scotland) v (Russia) Dynamo Moscow
    Arsenal Kyiv (Ukraine) v (Slovenia) Mura 05
    KuPS (Finland) v (Turkey) Bursaspor
    Steaua București (Romania) v (Slovakia) Spartak Trnava
    Gomel (Belarus) v (England) Liverpool
    SV Ried (Austria) v (Poland) Legia Warsaw
    St. Patrick's Athletic (Republic of Ireland) v (Germany) Hannover 96
    Servette (Switzerland) v (Norway) Rosenborg
    Athletic Bilbao (Spain) v (Croatia) Slaven Belupo
    Anzhi Makhachkala (Russia) v (Netherlands) Vitesse
    Asteras Tripolis (Greece) v (Portugal) Marítimo
    Heerenveen (Netherlands) v (Romania) Rapid București
    Ruch Chorzów (Poland) v (Czech Republic) Viktoria Plzeň
    Horsens (Denmark) v (Sweden) Elfsborg
    APOEL (Cyprus) v (Norway) Aalesund
    Hajduk Split (Croatia) v (Italy) Internazionale
    Vojvodina (Serbia) v (Austria) Rapid Wien
    Genk (Belgium) v (Kazakhstan) Aktobe
    Tromsø (Norway) v (Ukraine) Metalurg Donetsk
    FC Twente (Netherlands) v (Czech Republic) Mladá Boleslav
    Bnei Yehuda (Israel) v (Greece) PAOK
    Dila Gori (Georgia) v (Cyprus) Anorthosis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Results from the first legs on Thursday.....

    Videoton (Hungary) 1-0 (Belgium) Gent

    AIK (Sweden) 3-0 (Poland) Lech Poznań

    Eskişehirspor (Turkey) 1-1 (France) Marseille

    Red Star Belgrade (Serbia) 0-0 (Cyprus) Omonia

    FK Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina) 2-1 (Montenegro) Zeta

    Admira Wacker Mödling (Austria) 0-2 (Czech Republic) Sparta Prague

    Kalmar FF (Sweden) 1-0 (Switzerland) Young Boys

    Dundee United (Scotland) 2-2 (Russia) Dynamo Moscow

    Arsenal Kyiv (Ukraine) 3-0 (Slovenia) Mura 05

    KuPS (Finland) 1-0 (Turkey) Bursaspor

    Steaua București (Romania) 0-1 (Slovakia) Spartak Trnava

    Gomel (Belarus) 0-1 (England) Liverpool

    SV Ried (Austria) 2-1 (Poland) Legia Warsaw

    St. Patrick's Athletic (Republic of Ireland) 0-3 (Germany) Hannover 96

    Servette (Switzerland) 1-1 (Norway) Rosenborg

    Athletic Bilbao (Spain) 3-1 (Croatia) Slaven Belupo

    Anzhi Makhachkala (Russia) 2-0 (Netherlands) Vitesse

    Asteras Tripolis (Greece) 1-1 (Portugal) Marítimo

    Heerenveen (Netherlands) 4-0 (Romania) Rapid București

    Ruch Chorzów (Poland) 0-2 (Czech Republic) Viktoria Plzeň

    Horsens (Denmark) 1-1 (Sweden) Elfsborg

    APOEL (Cyprus) 2-1 (Norway) Aalesund

    Hajduk Split (Croatia) 0-3 (Italy) Internazionale

    Vojvodina (Serbia) 2-1 (Austria) Rapid Wien

    Genk (Belgium) 2-1 (Kazakhstan) Aktobe

    Tromsø (Norway) 1-1 (Ukraine) Metalurg Donetsk

    FC Twente (Netherlands) 2-0 (Czech Republic) Mladá Boleslav

    Bnei Yehuda (Israel) 0-2 (Greece) PAOK

    Dila Gori (Georgia) 0-1 (Cyprus) Anorthosis

    Arsenal Kyiv's 3-0 victory over Mura 05 is under investigation as they fielded a suspended player. Decision due tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    UEFA Europa League play-off draw

    Group 1
    Seeded
    AZ Alkmaar (NED)
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
    APOEL FC (CYP)
    FK Partizan (SRB)
    Newcastle United FC (ENG)

    Unseeded
    FC Vaslui (ROU)
    Atromitos FC (GRE)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS)
    Tromsø IL (NOR)
    Neftçi PFK (AZE)

    Group 2
    Seeded
    Liverpool FC (ENG)
    Club Brugge KV (BEL)
    Athletic Club (ESP)
    sc Heerenveen (NED)
    Anorthosis Famagusta FC (CYP) / FC Dila Gori (GEO)*

    Unseeded
    Debreceni VSC (HUN)
    CS Marítimo (POR)
    Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO)
    Molde FK (NOR)
    HJK Helsinki (FIN)


    Group 3
    Seeded
    Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
    FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
    Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR)
    Hannover 96 (GER)
    BSC Young Boys (SUI)

    Unseeded
    FC Dinamo Bucureşti (ROU)
    FC Midtjylland (DEN)
    FC Sheriff (MDA)
    WKS Śląsk Wrocław (POL)
    Videoton FC (HUN)


    Group 4
    Seeded
    Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
    Levante UD (ESP)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE)

    Unseeded
    FK Crvena zvezda (SRB)
    Feyenoord (NED)
    AC Horsens (DEN)
    Motherwell FC (SCO)
    F91 Dudelange (LUX)

    Group 5
    Seeded
    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
    FC Twente (NED)
    S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    Rosenborg BK (NOR)
    PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)

    Unseeded
    Bursaspor (TUR)
    AIK Solna (SWE)
    KSC Lokeren OV (BEL)
    Legia Warszawa (POL)
    ND Mura 05 (SVN)

    Group 6
    Seeded
    VfB Stuttgart (GER)
    PSV Eindhoven (NED)
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    PAOK FC (GRE)
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    KRC Genk (BEL)

    Unseeded
    FK Zeta (MNE)
    FC Dinamo Moskva (RUS)
    FC Slovan Liberec (CZE)
    FC Luzern (SUI)
    FK Ekranas (LTU)
    SK Rapid Wien (AUT)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Draw for play off round

    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) v AZ Alkmaar (NED)
    APOEL FC (CYP) v Neftçi PFK (AZE)
    Atromitos FC (GRE) v Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    Tromsø IL (NOR) v FK Partizan (SRB)
    FC Vaslui (ROU) v FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)

    Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO) v Liverpool FC (ENG)
    Athletic Club (ESP) v HJK Helsinki (FIN)
    CS Marítimo (POR) v *FC Dila Gori (GEO) or Anorthosis Famagusta (CYP)
    Molde FK (NOR) v sc Heerenveen (NED)
    Debreceni VSC (HUN) v Club Brugge KV (BEL)

    FC Sheriff (MDA) v Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
    Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR) v Videoton FC (HUN)
    FC Midtjylland (DEN) v BSC Young Boys (SUI)
    WKS Śląsk Wrocław (POL) v Hannover 96 (GER)
    FC Dinamo Bucureşti (ROU) v FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)

    AC Horsens (DEN) v Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
    Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR) v F91 Dudelange (LUX)
    Feyenoord (NED) v AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Motherwell FC (SCO) v Levante UD (ESP)
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB) v FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)

    KSC Lokeren OV (BEL) v FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
    S.S. Lazio (ITA) v ND Mura 05 (SVN)
    AIK Solna (SWE) v PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)
    Legia Warszawa (POL) v Rosenborg BK (NOR)
    Bursaspor (TUR) v FC Twente (NED)

    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU) v FK Ekranas (LTU)
    FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) v FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) v FC Dinamo Moskva (RUS)
    PAOK FC (GRE) v SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
    FC Luzern (SUI) v KRC Genk (BEL)
    FK Zeta (MNE) v PSV Eindhoven (NED)

    ******



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    First legs up tomorrow! Some nice encounters in this round. Special best of luck to F91 Dudelange of Luxembourg looking to make history against Hapoel Tel-Aviv!

    The 31 winners from the Playoff round will be joined by 10 losers from the Champions League Playoff round and 7 teams who qualified for the Europa League group stage automatically.

    Pot 1 (so far) - Atletico Madrid, Lyon, Tottenham, Bayer Leverkuson.

    Other teams already sitting in the group stage - Rubin Kazan (pot 1 or 2), Napoli (pot 1-3), Academica (pot 2-4).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Results from the Playoff Round 1st legs.

    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) 1-0 AZ Alkmaar (NED)
    Neftçi PFK (AZE) 1-1 APOEL FC (CYP)
    Atromitos FC (GRE) 1-1 Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    Tromsø IL (NOR) 3-2 FK Partizan (SRB)
    FC Vaslui (ROU) 0-2 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)

    Heart of Midlothian FC (SCO) 0-1 Liverpool FC (ENG)
    Athletic Club (ESP) 6-0 HJK Helsinki (FIN)
    CS Marítimo (POR) 1-0 FC Dila Gori (GEO)
    Molde FK (NOR) 2-0 sc Heerenveen (NED)
    Debreceni VSC (HUN) 0-3 Club Brugge KV (BEL)

    FC Sheriff (MDA) 1-2 Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
    Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR) 0-0 Videoton FC (HUN)
    FC Midtjylland (DEN) 0-3 BSC Young Boys (SUI)
    WKS Śląsk Wrocław (POL) 5-3 Hannover 96 (GER)
    FC Dinamo Bucureşti (ROU) 0-2 FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)

    AC Horsens (DEN) 1-1 Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
    F91 Dudelange (LUX) 1-3 Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
    Feyenoord (NED) 2-2 AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Motherwell FC (SCO) 0-2 Levante UD (ESP)
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB) 0-0 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)

    KSC Lokeren OV (BEL) 2-1 FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
    ND Mura 05 (SVN) 0-2 S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    AIK Solna (SWE) 0-1 PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)
    Legia Warszawa (POL) 1-1 Rosenborg BK (NOR)
    Bursaspor (TUR) 3-1 FC Twente (NED)

    FK Ekranas (LTU) 0-2 FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) 2-2 FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) 2-0 FC Dinamo Moskva (RUS)
    PAOK FC (GRE) 2-1 SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
    FC Luzern (SUI) 2-1 KRC Genk (BEL)
    FK Zeta (MNE) 0-5 PSV Eindhoven (NED)


    Dudelange played at home first but lost 3-1 so my best wishes of luck were futile.

    HJK Helsinki, here after their defeat by Celtic over two legs in the Champions League qualifiers, went to Bilbao and promptly got stuffed 6-0.

    FC Dila Gori, lost 1-0 at Maritimo where I'm sure they had a nicer time than in the previous round when Anorthosis Famagusta fans invaded the pitch before the game ended. As it was already 3-0 the forfeit just produced the same scoreline.

    FC Twente having fought to here from the 1st round thanks to their fair play qualification to the competition lost 3-1 in Turkey to Bursaspor and have some work to do to make it to the next round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Pots for the Draw

    Draw seedings
    Pot 1
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    Liverpool FC (ENG)
    Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
    Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
    PSV Eindhoven (NED)
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    FC Twente (NED)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER)

    Pot 2
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
    FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
    Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
    Athletic Club (ESP)
    FC København (DEN)
    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    SSC Napoli (ITA)
    Udinese Calcio (ITA)
    Club Brugge KV (BEL)
    Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
    Hannover 96 (GER)

    Pot 3
    S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Rosenborg BK (NOR)
    Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    BSC Young Boys (SUI)
    Levante UD (ESP)
    KRC Genk (BEL)
    VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER)
    FK Partizan (SRB)
    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)

    Pot 4
    Helsingborgs IF (SWE)
    CS Marítimo (POR)
    SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
    A. Académica de Coimbra (POR)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS)
    NK Maribor (SVN)
    AIK Solna (SWE)
    AEL Limassol FC (CYP)
    Hapoel Kiryat Shmona FC (ISR)
    Molde FK (NOR)
    Videoton FC (HUN)
    Neftçi PFK (AZE)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Europa League Groups

    Group A
    Liverpool FC (ENG)
    Udinese Calcio (ITA)
    BSC Young Boys (SUI)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS)

    Group B
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
    Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
    A. Académica de Coimbra (POR)

    Group C
    Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER)
    AEL Limassol FC (CYP)

    Group D
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    Club Brugge KV (BEL)
    Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    CS Marítimo (POR)

    Group E
    VfB Stuttgart (GER)
    FC København (DEN)
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    Molde FK (NOR)

    Group F
    PSV Eindhoven (NED)
    SSC Napoli (ITA)
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    AIK Solna (SWE)

    Group G
    Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
    KRC Genk (BEL)
    Videoton FC (HUN)

    Group H
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
    FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    FK Partizan (SRB)
    Neftçi PFK (AZE)

    Group I
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    Athletic Club (ESP)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Hapoel Kiryat Shmona FC (ISR)

    Group J
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
    Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
    S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    NK Maribor (SVN)

    Group K
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
    FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
    Rosenborg BK (NOR)
    SK Rapid Wien (AUT)

    Group L
    FC Twente (NED)
    Hannover 96 (GER)
    Levante UD (ESP)
    Helsingborgs IF (SWE)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭carlop


    Potentially some interesting ties there but ultimately most 'big' teams will field weakened teams and devalue the whole competition.

    It's a shame, because for a lot of the teams who are going to play the reserves or rest key players, this is the only real chance they have of winning silverware.

    I was in Madrid when Atleti won last year and the place was buzzing (almost too much so, ended the night having rubber bullets fired at us). Winning a competition where you have beaten off teams from all over Europe is great for any side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    any dates posted yet for the matches? I'm looking for the Young Boys v Liverpool fixture date


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Groups C and D look very tough, but it seems to be a decent enough group for Liverpool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭RayCon


    carlop wrote: »
    Winning a competition where you have beaten off teams from all over Europe is great for any side.

    Jeez you've to do that too ? ... thank fUkc they dont televise that part of the competition ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    carlop wrote: »
    Potentially some interesting ties there but ultimately most 'big' teams will field weakened teams and devalue the whole competition.

    It's a shame, because for a lot of the teams who are going to play the reserves or rest key players, this is the only real chance they have of winning silverware.

    I was in Madrid when Atleti won last year and the place was buzzing (almost too much so, ended the night having rubber bullets fired at us). Winning a competition where you have beaten off teams from all over Europe is great for any side.

    Let the teams who give a damn battle it out then. Still plenty of good teams from both the top leagues and the medium sized leagues in the competition who won't field weakened sides andwould be ony to delighted to bring the trophy home.
    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    any dates posted yet for the matches? I'm looking for the Young Boys v Liverpool fixture date

    Matchday one. 20th of September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Group I
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    Athletic Club (ESP)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Hapoel Kiryat Shmona FC (ISR)

    Doubt many people care really about this but I was just reading up on a bit of French Football and saw that Lyon qualified to the Europa League by winning the Coupe de France. But a few points which fascinated me were the fact that 7,422 teams enter this cup (I thought the English FA Cup was big but only a mere 758 enter that this year) and not only that but teams from overseas French terrotories enter this cup too (Guadeloupe, French Guyana, Martinique, Mayotte, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, and Réunion). I was just thinking how mad it would be if a team from one of these countries went onto win the French Cup and qualify for the Europa League, would they be allowed to enter or would we actually have Europa League games in the Carribean or Oceania.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Here are the teams for the last 32

    Seeded
    Liverpool FC (ENG)
    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)
    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    KRC Genk (BEL)
    FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
    Hannover 96 (GER)
    Chelsea (ENG)
    CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
    Olympiacos (GRE)
    Benfica (POR)

    Unseeded
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS)
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP)
    VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER)
    Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER)
    SSC Napoli (ITA)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI)
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER)
    Levante UD (ESP)
    Zenit St Petersburg (RUS)
    FC BATE Borisov (BLR)
    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
    Ajax Amesterdam (NED)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭carlop


    Strangely enough I think the unseeded teams are stronger than the seeded ones. Some pretty tasty potential ties in there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Thursday see the return of the Europa League with the round of 32 ties below

    FC BATE Borisov (BLR) V Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) V CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
    Levante UD (ESP) V Olympiacos (GRE)
    Zenit St Petersburg (RUS) V Liverpool FC (ENG)
    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) V FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) V Benfica (POR)
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) V FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) V KRC Genk (BEL)
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) V FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    Ajax Amesterdam (NED) V FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI) V FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) V Hannover 96 (GER)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE) V Chelsea (ENG)
    VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) V S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) V Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    SSC Napoli (ITA) V FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Tonight's Results

    FC BATE Borisov (BLR) 0 V 0 Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) 2 V 0 CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU)
    Levante UD (ESP) 3 V 0 Olympiacos (GRE)
    Zenit St Petersburg (RUS) 2 V 0 Liverpool FC (ENG)
    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) 1 V 1 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) 0 V 1 Benfica (POR)
    Newcastle United FC (ENG) 0 V 0 FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) 1 V 1 KRC Genk (BEL)
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 0 V 2 FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    Ajax Amesterdam (NED) 2 V 0 FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 2 V 0 FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) 3 V 1 Hannover 96 (GER)
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE) 0 V 1 Chelsea (ENG)
    VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) 3 V 3 S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 2 V 1 Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
    SSC Napoli (ITA) 0 V 3 FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Good night for the Russian teams particularly Rubin Kazan. Would of had Atletico Madrid down as one of the favourites.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,379 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Watching the highlight show now. Why would Atletico send the keeper forward in injury time? :confused:

    They've made the job twice as hard next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Tonight's games

    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) V FC BATE Borisov (BLR) (agg 0-0)
    CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU) V FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) (agg 0-2)
    Olympiacos (GRE) V Levante UD (ESP) (agg 0-3)
    Liverpool FC (ENG) V Zenit St Petersburg (RUS) (agg 0-2)
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA) V FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) (agg 1-1)
    Benfica (POR) V Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) (agg 1-0)
    FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR) V Newcastle United FC (ENG) (agg 0-0)
    KRC Genk (BEL) V VfB Stuttgart (GER) (agg 1-1)
    FC Rubin Kazan (RUS) v Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) (agg 2-0)
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU) V Ajax Amesterdam (NED) (agg 0-2)
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR) V FC Basel 1893 (SUI) (agg 0-2)
    Hannover 96 (GER) V FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) (agg 1-3)
    Chelsea (ENG) V AC Sparta Praha (CZE) (agg 1-0)
    S.S. Lazio (ITA) V VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) (agg 3-3)
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) V Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) (agg 1-2)
    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) V SSC Napoli (ITA) (agg 3-0)

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  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Atleti have been knocked out of the Europa League there by Rubin.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    Atleti have been knocked out of the Europa League there by Rubin.

    :( Madness sending the keeper up for that corner last week


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Lazio and Stuttgart through, they'll meet next.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    GARETH F'N BALE vs Inter in the next round


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭KingdomYid


    Nuri Sahin wrote: »
    GARETH F'N BALE vs Inter in the next round

    Not sure if you are calling Spurs a one man team or showing your dislike for Bale here??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Spurs v Inter is going to be great hopefully like last time in Milan we wont have any trouble.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    KingdomYid wrote: »
    Not sure if you are calling Spurs a one man team or showing your dislike for Bale here??

    It's a joke. It'll be built up as Bale vs Inter III by the English press.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) 1 V 0 FC BATE Borisov (BLR) (agg 1-0)
    CFR 1907 Cluj (ROU) 0 V 3 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) (agg 0-5)
    Olympiacos (GRE) 0 V 1 Levante UD (ESP) (agg 0-4)
    Liverpool FC (ENG) 3 V 1 Zenit St Petersburg (RUS) (agg 3-3 Zenit win on away goals)
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA) 1 V 0 FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) (agg 2-1)
    Benfica (POR) 2 V 1 Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER) (agg 3-1)
    FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR) 0 V 1 Newcastle United FC (ENG) (agg 0-1)
    KRC Genk (BEL) 0 V 2 VfB Stuttgart (GER) (agg 1-3)
    FC Rubin Kazan (RUS) 0 v 1 Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP) (agg 2-1)
    FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (UKR) 1 V 1 FC Basel 1893 (SUI) (agg 1-3)
    Hannover 96 (GER) 1 V 1 FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) (agg 2-4)
    Chelsea (ENG) 1 V 1 AC Sparta Praha (CZE) (agg 2-1)
    S.S. Lazio (ITA) 2 V 0 VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach (GER) (agg 5-3)
    Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) 1 V 1 Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) (agg 2-3)
    FC Viktoria Plzeň (CZE) 2 V 0 SSC Napoli (ITA) (agg 5-0)
    FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU) 2 V 0 Ajax Amesterdam (NED) (agg 2-2 Steaua Win 4-2 on Pens)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Next Round draw
    FC Viktoria Plzen (CZE) V Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    Benfica (POR) V FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) V Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) V S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) V FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
    Levante UD (ESP) V FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI) V Zenit St Petersburg (RUS)
    FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROU) V Chelsea (ENG)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Anzhi a really tough tie for us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭MaroonAndGreen


    Would like to see Chelsea v Inter/Spurs in the final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,296 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Tonight's results

    FC Viktoria Plzen (CZE) 0 V 1 Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)
    Benfica (POR) 1 V 0 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA)
    FC Anzhi Makhachkala (RUS) 0 V 0 Newcastle United FC (ENG)
    VfB Stuttgart (GER) 0 V 2 S.S. Lazio (ITA)
    Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 3 V 0 FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)
    Levante UD (ESP) 0 V 0 FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
    FC Basel 1893 (SUI) 2 V 0 Zenit St Petersburg (RUS)
    FC Steaua Bucuresti (ROU) 1 V 0 Chelsea (ENG)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    There is the last German team going out of the competition...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Great result for Basel nice to see them continue there recent pedigree in europe


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Fantastic game between Inter vs Spurs. Inter leading 3-0 and aggregate is 3-3.


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