My Build - thoughts/opinions please

BhoyRayzor

near enough ready to order and just compared between HWVS and Dabs/Komplett. buying ex VAT through work

Component Item HWVS VAT HWVS Irish Site Difference Irish Difference
Rate ex VAT ex VAT
Processor Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155 212.12 0.19 178.25 227.45 Dabs 23% 184.92
Case Corsair Carbide Series 500R 92.93 0.19 78.09 105 Komplett 23% 85.37
Graphics Card Asus GeForce GTX 670 1058MHz 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI DirectCU II 420.14 0.19 353.06 446.58 Dabs 23% 363.07
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Sockel 1155, ATX 128.51 0.19 107.99 134.9 Dabs 23% 109.67
RAM 8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9 36.53 0.19 30.70 44.21 Dabs 23% 35.94
SSD Harddrive Samsung SSD 830 128GB SATA 99.90 0.19 83.95 99.12 Dabs 23% 80.59
Harddrive Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB 100.93 0.19 84.82 110.19 Dabs 23% 89.59
Power Supply Corsair 750W Enthusiast Series TX750 Modular Power Supply 107.97 0.19 90.73 112.28 Dabs 23% 91.28
DVD Drive Sony 24x DVD-RW SATA 17.84 0.19 14.99 15.33 Dabs 23% 12.46
Processor Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - 120 mm 26.20 0.19 22.02 37.95 Komplett 23% 30.85
Shipping Shipping 18.99 18.99
Coupon €40 off over €599 Dabs x 2 -80 -80

Total ex Shipping 1,243.07 1,044.60 1253.01 -9.94 1,003.75 40.85
Total inc Shipping 1,262.06 1,063.59 1253.01 9.05 1,003.75 59.84


need to spend another €7.94 to get the second €40 off so will get a USB stick

only problem is the Asus GTX 670 1058MHz 2GB DirectCU II Top seems to be out of stock a lot of places and not due in Dabs in more than four weeks, which has pretty much stopped me in my tracks :mad:

Monotype

The Adata 850W PSU at komplett is much the same for ~€85 iirc.
Not that you need an 850W PSU. Is SLI on the cards or something?

BhoyRayzor

Monotype wrote: »

The Adata 850W PSU at komplett is much the same for ~€85 iirc.
Not that you need an 850W PSU. Is SLI on the cards or something?

down the line probably once I notice any dip in performance, water cooling, an extra 670 and will be trying over clocking as well

is Adata an OK make then? modular too

Monotype

The Adata has the same internals as the Corsair TX. Both are made by CWT.

You could fit overclocking that CPU into 450W and with two 670s into about 650W. Not sure on the power consumption of water cooling as I haven't checked it lately. It's an expensive route to go down. Buy with a bit of room but don't completely go over your needs.

BhoyRayzor

For a graphics card is the base clock and boost clock effectively how good the card is, i.e. the higher the better.

the Asus GTX 670 1058MHz 2GB DirectCU II Top won't be in stock for a while but it has an Engine Clock GPU Boost Clock : 1137 MHz and a GPU Base Clock : 1058 MHz @ €446.58

Then was looking at the MSI GeForce GTX 670 1019MHz 2GB which has a Core Clock of 1019 MHz and a Boost Clock of 1079 MHz @ €406.93

and the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 980MHz 2GB which has a Core Clock (MHz) Base: 980MHz and a Boost: 1058MHz @ €417.73

Is the MSI a good card?

Monotype

In most situations you can overclock them yourself to match the same speed as others. I'd go for whichever one is cheapest and so long as it's got adequate cooling and the brand doesn't have a particularly bad name associated.

BhoyRayzor

Monotype wrote: »

In most situations you can overclock them yourself to match the same speed as others. I'd go for whichever one is cheapest and so long as it's got adequate cooling and the brand doesn't have a particularly bad name associated.

I do intend on overclocking down the line alright. So is the effective memory clock then that they all seem to have of 6.008 GHz the real figure that should be looked at making the other figures irrelevant?

Monotype

No, you can overclock the memory too.
Effective memory frequency = 4 x memory clock

All the figures are pretty much irrelevant (aside from a 4GB edition). The only thing that makes an overclocked version better is better cooling/better firmware/better voltage tweaks/better chip chosen which can be overclocked further.

It's not always irrelevant though. Take a look at the GTX 460. There were two versions of that. Three if you count the 460SE as well.

BhoyRayzor

think I'll go with the MSI GeForce GTX 670 1019MHz 2GB and hope it's in stock when I go to buy

Skylinehead

BhoyRayzor wrote: »

think I'll go with the MSI GeForce GTX 670 1019MHz 2GB and hope it's in stock when I go to buy

No sign of it for the last few weeks, has a few reviews though. I went for the Asus in the end (not TOP version, can overclock it myself)

BhoyRayzor

Skylinehead wrote: »

No sign of it for the last few weeks, has a few reviews though. I went for the Asus in the end (not TOP version, can overclock it myself)

yeah seen that alright, feels weird picking a couple of components all by myself somewhat having just copied your and others builds, I've learnt a lot from here though with thanks and through my own research.

did you find out what the ex vat amount was on your build from HWVS after?

Skylinehead

BhoyRayzor wrote: »

yeah seen that alright, feels weird picking a couple of components all by myself somewhat having just copied your and others builds, I've learnt a lot from here though with thanks and through my own research.

did you find out what the ex vat amount was on your build from HWVS after?

Nope, their email system is awful so I'll have to ring them on Monday. Got Scan sorted though, so that's a start. SSD, PSU, Keyboard, DVD Drive, all the essentials basically. Who needs a motherboard? :pac:

BhoyRayzor

okay so pretty much ready to order now at this stage now that dabs have their €40 off over €599 coupon up again. any final thought/opinions/ideas?

Component Item HWVS VAT HWVS Irish Site Difference Irish Difference
Rate ex VAT ex VAT
Processor Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155 212.12 0.19 178.25 230.36 Dabs 23% 187.28
Case Corsair Carbide Series 500R 95.84 0.19 80.54 117.29 Dabs 23% 95.36
Graphics Card Asus GeForce GTX 670 1137MHz 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI DirectCU II TOP 443.81 0.19 372.95 446.58 Dabs 23% 363.07
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4, Sockel 1155, ATX 131.57 0.19 110.56 134.9 Dabs 23% 109.67
RAM Corsair 8gb Vengance DDR3 1600MHz Low Profile 45.88 0.19 38.55 53.06 Dabs 23% 43.14
SSD Harddrive Samsung SSD 830 128GB SATA 102.55 0.19 86.18 100.79 Dabs 23% 81.94
Harddrive Western Digital 2TB Caviar Green SATA-600 64MB 3.5" 99.90 0.19 83.95 111.47 Dabs 23% 90.63
Power Supply ADATA - HM-850 - 850 Watt - ATX 80.00 0.19 67.23 84.95 Komplett 23% 69.07
DVD Drive Sony Optiarc 24x Internal DVD Multi Writer 18.13 0.19 15.24 16.61 Dabs 23% 13.50
Processor Cooler Noctua NH-D14 67.99 0.19 57.13 76.69 Dabs 23% 62.35
Shipping Shipping 18.99 18.99
Coupon €40 off over €599 Dabs x 2 -80

Total ex Shipping 1,301.45 1,093.66 1292.70 8.75
Total inc Shipping 1,320.44 1,109.61 1292.70 27.74 1,050.98 58.64

Skylinehead

Looks pretty much like my build :pac:

Any need for the TOP version of the 670? Could always OC it yourself.

Mr_Maestro

Isn't Dabs.ie based in the UK ?

Eboggles

Mr_Maestro wrote: »

Isn't Dabs.ie based in the UK ?

Yeah it is, just has a .ie website.

BhoyRayzor

Skylinehead wrote: »

Looks pretty much like my build :pac:

Any need for the TOP version of the 670? Could always OC it yourself.

Well I did copy most of it and I'm still waiting for pictures to be posted so I'll know what mine will look like. :pac:

The top one is due in stock shortly so I said I'd pay the extra fifteen odd quid for it. Can the top one not be over clocked as well or is that just for people who want the extra performance but don't want/know how to overclock? Will you be overclocking the normal one to the same sort of levels as the top one?

BhoyRayzor

would I need extra sata cables, think you get two with the mobo which will be used for the hdd and the ssd. would I need any extra for any of the other components?

challengemaster

DVD drive?

Skylinehead

If the DVD drive has Retail somewhere in the title there's a SATA cable with it, otherwise you'll need another.

BhoyRayzor

boom, ordered, changed the dvd to a samsung retail one. hopefully putting it together won't be as stressful as buying it

thanks to all for input, help and suggestions, I'm sure I will need you again in the coming weeks