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Paying by card in a pub

  • 06-07-2012 5:41am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭


    Out on the high stool tonite good craic and the rest, went up to the bar to order some light refreshments, fairly big que and at the top was someone paying with a card which entails the barmaid to stop hand it to him put it in wait, and wait some more while its authorized, while me and the rest of the que waited and waited, as there were only two barstaff it. I'd completely understand if it was a big round and was left a bit shy, it was two pints, it really irks me!

    So do ya pay for gargle with the card??


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  • Registered Users Posts: 316 ✭✭cassi


    I Was VB wrote: »
    Out on the high stool tonite good craic and the rest, went up to the bar to order some light refreshments, fairly big que and at the top was someone paying with a card which entails the barmaid to stop hand it to him put it in wait, and wait some more while its authorized, while me and the rest of the que waited and waited, as there were only two barstaff it. I'd completely understand if it was a big round and was left a bit shy, it was two pints, it really irks me!

    So do ya pay for gargle with the card??


    If I've no cash on me, then yes!


  • Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭Irish_wolf


    cassi wrote: »
    If I've no cash on me, then yes!

    Pretty much the only time I'd pay by card was if I had no cash on me or if the nearest atm was miles away. I prefer to buy drink using cash so I can keep better track of it. I see a lot of people buying whole rounds on the card while locked and then kickin themselves the next morning when they've no money left in the account.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    I often use a card when I order my first pint and get cashback. Then I gradually hand the money back through the course of the night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    If the place is quiet, then i'll use a card.

    But if its busy then it's cash.

    This new Visa debit card from bank of ireland makes it interesting.

    Wave your wallet in front of the scanner, and anything €15 or less gets debited immediately, without need for pin code etc. Should speed things right up when this gets rolled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Personally, I usually just bring cash to a pub, limits the amount I may end up spending. Doesn't really bother me if someone is paying by card though. Yeah, it might take a little longer for the transaction to be complete, but so what, a couple of minutes of a night spent in a queue, I'll get over it.

    The odd time where I haven't had cash going in to a pub, I'd get cash back after my first order. I consider it handier for both myself and staff


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    That's awful OP.
    Tell the bar to hire more staff
    Tell them to remove the card payment option


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Paying by card can be very fast if they have a modern payment processor that uses 3g. Some of the older machines are very slow to connect tho, they might even still use 56k modem to dialup etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    I live in New Zealand and here EVERYBODY uses cards to pay for pints at the bar. It's really quick and easy...our machines at he are just a bit slow and crappy. It works great here...nobody carries cash ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Typically ill just use cash in a pub for various reasons. This is not just pubs but the processing speed of a card payment varies so widely amongst shops etc... To speedy to the ridiculously slow.

    I do wish we'd speed up the process of moving towards a more general cashless society. It would be great if technology like NFC etc could be tightened up and developed and integrated more into every day life. So much more convenient


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,704 ✭✭✭Corvo


    I always pay by card in my local as I can then get cash back and use that throughout the night.

    Its in their best interests to let me use it, because if not I have go elsewhere to an atm and I might go to a different pub in that area.

    Plus, what sort of barman can't serve while the machine loads, you enter your pin and its processes? He doesn't have to wait and watch you.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭saiint


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    If the place is quiet, then i'll use a card.

    But if its busy then it's cash.

    This new Visa debit card from bank of ireland makes it interesting.

    Wave your wallet in front of the scanner, and anything €15 or less gets debited immediately, without need for pin code etc. Should speed things right up when this gets rolled out.
    i have a feeling alot of them cards will go missing


  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Yeboah


    coming from a country town only one or two bars have card facilities..Were lucky that theres a fair few ATMs about if funds are running low..Although i have been caught on nights out in Dublin and was just handier pay by card and at my sisters wedding in a posh enough place last year it was just handier to pay by card.I wonder how long it will take us to go down the american route of sticking the card behind the counter and settling the tab before leaving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Wave your wallet in front of the scanner, and anything €15 or less gets debited immediately, without need for pin code etc. Should speed things right up when this gets rolled out.
    Could one of the scanners fit in my pocket? Would make things interesting... :D

    =-=

    I pay by cash in a pub, but paying for two pints sounds like someone has been there all afternoon and has no more cash left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Typically ill just use cash in a pub for various reasons. This is not just pubs but the processing speed of a card payment varies so widely amongst shops etc... To speedy to the ridiculously slow.

    I do wish we'd speed up the process of moving towards a more general cashless society. It would be great if technology like NFC etc could be tightened up and developed and integrated more into every day life. So much more convenient

    Are they not planning to do some NFC roll out at some stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭tmc86


    I always bring Cash money.........about three fiddy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    I like to swipe my card between the waitresses boobs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,795 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Would prefer to go to an ATM before hand. So pay by card very rarely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    saiint wrote: »
    i have a feeling alot of them cards will go missing

    You can only use them three times before it has to go for an authorisation. The Card companies are really trying to push this technology to move people away from cash. AIB are issuing them now as well, I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Depends on the pub. I'll pay by cash if I have it.

    If they're doing table service then I tell the girl to bring the card machine with the pints and then get cashback. If it's a busy pub in the city centre where you have to go to the bar I'll usually go to an ATM first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I would usually have cash. I had none one time and asked if I could get cash back with the card, I am not supposed to be able with my card. They refused me because of this and I just said "ok, but I am going to be using this all night, so it would save you and me time", they had a chat with some other senior looking guy and I got €60 back.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Stiffler2


    I pay for everything by card, if I had cash I'd spend more.
    You can blame the gobberment for taxing the ****e out of me for that one.

    everything goes on the card, pack of tayto - laser comes out.

    what's the problem here ?


    Most shops have the new verifone card reader which authorises your card payment in just a few seconds v's the old ****e one's which can take 1 - 2 mins


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    I use cash the majority of the time, its much easier and quicker in a busy bar, the card often comes out at the end of the nightclub when the cash runs out for funding jager bombs :)

    I lived in London for a while though and there everyone pays by card. Most pubs start a tab for you though so its handy, they put your card behind the bar and you pay for all your drinks when your leaving.

    Other than the pub though I use card for almost everything its much better than carrying cash imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Timfy


    We live out in the sticks and the nearest ATM is about 25 miles away! If I'm caught short of cash and fancy a pint or six, I'll usually run a tab and pay it off on the card at the end of the night.
    We get a lot of foreign tourists through the village and they seem to want to pay on their cards for each and every round. Off topic, they also seem to be in the habit of ordering and paying for each persons drink separately. Combine this with paying by card and it's usually enough to drive me to the next pub!

    No trees were harmed in the posting of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Usually use the card when I run out of cash and the online banking is never a pretty site:

    Goes:

    Drinks: €68 (F*ck)
    More drinks: €102 (F*ck, F*ck, F*ck)
    Zaytoons: €65 (Jesus...hope I wasn't there on my own)
    Casino: €200 (Ball f*cking ox)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Wave your wallet in front of the scanner, and anything €15 or less gets debited immediately, without need for pin code etc. Should speed things right up when this gets rolled out.
    This is ripe for attack

    Bring a portable scanner with a large antenna , walk through a pub / crowded Luas , and skim away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I use cash the majority of the time, its much easier and quicker in a busy bar, the card often comes out at the end of the nightclub when the cash runs out for funding jager bombs :)

    Ain't that the truth. The number of times I've woken up next morning thinking I've 'only' spent the hundred that was in my pocket and then later on stumbled across a couple of card receipts for large rounds of jager bombs.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    FearDark wrote: »
    I live in New Zealand and here EVERYBODY uses cards to pay for pints at the bar. It's really quick and easy...our machines at he are just a bit slow and crappy. It works great here...nobody carries cash ever.
    AFAIK it's because our machines use dial up to connect ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    The machines in Aldi are super duper quick - why can't everyone else use these?


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Beefy78 wrote: »
    Ain't that the truth. The number of times I've woken up next morning thinking I've 'only' spent the hundred that was in my pocket and then later on stumbled across a couple of card receipts for large rounds of jager bombs.

    Checking my account online is one of the first things I do the morning after to see if/what damage was done with the card that I don't remember. Its can be a painful experience but if you spent nothing it cheers you up so can go either way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭The Snipe


    Where I'd normally go they do table service, ans run tabs on the tables. Considering all the barstaff know me its easier for me just to get the drinks, put em on the table ans settle it at the end of the night using either cash it card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭HoggyRS


    I never use a card because I never have any cash in my account! Getting paid cash in hand will do that to ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭pawrick


    Depends on how busy a place is and I'd get cash back the one time I'd do it not to constantly slow service down for everyone else in a busy bar.If at all possible I'd walk to nearest ATM though or borrow from a mate if I knew we would be passing an ATM later.

    Only found out last weekend that there is no public ATMs (or any as far as I know) on one side of my home town where the main bars are!? Same here in dublin we'd be lost without spars etc having them in storeas the banks tend to stick them all beside each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    I was in a club in Madrid once and they didn't cash or card at the bars. You had to buy drink tokens at a kiosk and then you'd exchange them for drinks. One token = one drink so if you were drinking soft drinks or even beer then you were losing out when you saw the quadruple measures of spirits they were serving.

    It was a decent system though. No mucking around with change or with card machines so they were able to serve two or three people per minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Sappa


    I Was VB wrote: »
    Out on the high stool tonite good craic and the rest, went up to the bar to order some light refreshments, fairly big que and at the top was someone paying with a card which entails the barmaid to stop hand it to him put it in wait, and wait some more while its authorized, while me and the rest of the que waited and waited, as there were only two barstaff it. I'd completely understand if it was a big round and was left a bit shy, it was two pints, it really irks me!

    So do ya pay for gargle with the card??
    Don't go to France op,you will be crying at the bar watching every beret wearing baget munching frenchie pay by card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    When I don't have cash the aul card comes out and I spend more then I meant


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  • Registered Users Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Turpentine


    FearDark wrote: »
    I live in New Zealand and here EVERYBODY uses cards to pay for pints at the bar. It's really quick and easy...our machines at he are just a bit slow and crappy. It works great here...nobody carries cash ever.

    Sounds horrible, it would mean that if there were any more computer glitches like the current Ulster Bank fiasco we'd be back to the barter system.
    CruelCoin wrote: »
    Wave your wallet in front of the scanner, and anything €15 or less gets debited immediately, without need for pin code etc. Should speed things right up when this gets rolled out.
    Beefy78 wrote: »
    You can only use them three times before it has to go for an authorisation. The Card companies are really trying to push this technology to move people away from cash. AIB are issuing them now as well, I think.

    So it'd be a much better system, once you're willing to waive €45 every time you go out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Ishmael


    I generally only bring enough cash to cover me for the night when i go out. Usually leave the card at home so i don't lose it or end up buying more than i intended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Ishmael wrote: »
    I generally only bring enough cash to cover me for the night when i go out. Usually leave the card at home so i don't lose it or end up buying more than i intended.

    Ishmael has the right idea


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Ishmael wrote: »
    I generally only bring enough cash to cover me for the night when i go out. Usually leave the card at home so i don't lose it or end up buying more than i intended.

    I would just end up borrowing money of someone. I was in a club 2 weekends ago that didnt take card and I ran out of cash with about an hour left so ended up borrowing 20 euro of one friend, spent that and then 20 euro of another friend and spent that too.

    I've done that a few times this year alone when running out of money and the place not taking card or being too lazy to go to the machine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    smash wrote: »
    I like to swipe my card between the waitresses boobs!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭uch


    I pay with Butter Vouchers and want me change in Margerine

    21/25



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I just set up a tab in my local and pay at the end before I leave. Often with a card but not exclusively.


  • Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭jupiterjack


    was in Helsinki few years back and everyone payed by card, the bars were packed and everything ran smoothly. i suppose i held everything up paying by cash.


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