Swedish house mafia stabbings (Updated Mod Warning Post #1)

Mr.Crinklewood

Now it seems there is a missing girl.

#findnicole

Slippin Jimmy

thebaz wrote: »

i find it strange we can stamp out illegal parking by heavy handed clamping , and yet can not do something similar, to eradicate the rise of knife culture , which I find a much more disturbing part of our society

I agree with you to an extent. But in fairness the campers are just waiting about the place for cars. The gardai are always out and about and are over stretched. The problem won't go away without putting more gardai on the street and improving laws. I feel that Ireland has adopted the uk stance on knifes.

Intensive Care Bear

I've been out for a few hours, has anyone blamed Hitler yet?

thebaz

MagicSean wrote: »

It's easy to spot a badly parked car. To find a knife you generally have to invade someones privacy and search them.

its the deterent thing - i dont understand the mentality of someone going out for a good night or day, and thinks it necessary to pack a knife - where it interferes with my or other members of our society rights, a harsh sentence should be meted out

daenerysstormborn3

Look, there was 4 people slashed in Waterford a few months ago. Three of them were lucky enough to get away with minor injuries (like the majority in this story) but one of them lost a significant amount of blood and was kept in hospital for a few days. He was slashed from his ear to under his chin. That story didn't get the coverage that this incident has but I would regard that as more serious considering the severity of the injuries.

yoyo

Deleted User wrote: »

One bad experience, sounds safe enough :pac: I know tonnes of people who did it more than regularly without any close calls.

This bloke did it regularly, however, that is what I was saying in the previous post. It goes to show even "expierienced" users can f*ck up, and nearly end up in a body bag. He still does it now afaik.

Deleted User wrote: »

Exactly, the choking on vomit is more common so it doesn't even take getting to the point of alcohol poisoning for most direct alcohol-related deaths.

I remember reading that it is rare for someone to die from an alcohol overdose, something about when you consume alcohol your body produces liquid to help "dilute" it and the main cause for alcohol related death is choking in own vomit. It can still be a dangerous drug, I'm not suggesting it isn't. I've done a few stupid binges in the past, but never ended up needing hospital treatment.

Nick

wendell borton

Marcin_diy wrote: »

every adult verbally or physically abused by kid should by law have right to kick that youth ass. Kids if not stopped when they are kids when they grow up will behave like that idiot with knife yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-T7yPJVvXw

fiacha

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Now it seems there is a missing girl.

#findnicole

Hopefully she's just shacked up with someone and has lost track of time.

Brain Stroking

MagicSean wrote: »

Bull****. Alcohol is legal but the criminal element is still there. Cigarettes are legal but the criminal element is still there. DVDs are legal but the criminal element is still there. Cars are legal but the criminal element is still there. Wether prohibition is right or not is not relevent. The fact is you are freely handing money to people who hurt people to get you your drugs. Accept it and live with it.

Ok we arent going to agree. You are sticking to the commonly held "drugs are bad m'kay" stance. That is what you grew up with and have always been told so it's understandable. It is against the law and that is that.

However, look at the situation logically. And that includes actually understanding what these drugs are. Then ask yourself why are these illegal in comparison to alcohol or cigarettes which has people dying in huge numbers yearly in this country. All are drugs so whats the difference? All involve substances entering the bloodstream so what is the difference?

No need to tell me my argument is bull**** because i disagree with you. Also, your argument loses a little of its punch with the bold bit which is simplistic and frankly a little silly.

Also, i havent once said i buy drugs from drug dealers here (have a read). I can understand that you have jumped on it given my outrageous and frighteningly anarchic argument :rolleyes:

criticalcritic

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Now it seems there is a missing girl.

#findnicole

Lets hope she wasnt some girl caught on camera having a bop on some Lads mickey and has changed her name and moved to Yemen out of embarrassment

df1985

criticalcritic wrote: »

The druggies on this thread trying to justify their purchasing of their coke and yokes is gas.

They dont want to be lumped in with the heroin zombies you see zonked out on Marlborough Street but your only one step away from them

I find the people posting stuff that shows they dont have a single clue what theyre talking about even more gas.

MagicSean

Brain Stroking wrote: »

Ok we arent going to agree. You are sticking to the commonly held "drugs are bad m'kay" stance. That is what you grew up with and have always been told so it's understandable. It is against the law and that is that.

However, look at the situation logically. And that includes actually understanding what these drugs are. Then ask yourself why are these illegal in comparison to alcohol or cigarettes which has people dying in huge numbers yearly in this country. All are drugs so whats the difference? All involve substances entering the bloodstream so what is the difference?

No need to tell me my argument is bull**** because i disagree with you. Also, your argument loses a little of its punch with the bold bit which is simplistic and frankly a little silly.

Also, i havent once said i buy drugs from drug dealers once here (have a read). I can understand that you have jumped on it given my outrageous and frighteningly anarchic argument :rolleyes:

Again, the issue of prohibition is irrelevant to my statement. So is the issue of their use or if they are good or bad. The FACT is that drugs are prohibited. The FACT is that they are not necessary for a person to survive. This means that if you buy drugs you are choosing to give money to murderers of your own free will.

Dyr

LH Pathe wrote: »

ah.. see. the real guetta exists, somewhere.. underground. just he chooses to go public with embarrassing sell-out David. Where dem girls at?!

When scandinavian nurds up on a podium behind their apple logo are the new rockstars, making a fortune from a veritable prerecording of blips n bleeps it's no wonder the worlds awash with automated music; idiots.. digital air whoosing out of cones. Whooosh.. Can you literally feel it? hardly about the music now, is it.. speaker physics. how low can you go. Low as the sub-bass levels, undiminished. 5miles away.

Why us rave basically a metronome, micmicking a heartbeat? apart from permeating peoples heads with machinery from a great distance like it was downstairs.. it's to try stimulate em back to life.

You sound like an Opeth fan or something, maybe porcupine tree

PseudoFamous

MagicSean wrote: »

This means that if you buy drugs you are choosing to give money to murderers of your own free will.

Who is the fellah who grows weed in his cupboard killing, exactly?

LH Pathe

Don't mind the gays and hipsters this type of music is the staple of scum on these shores primarily. That one big mono-culture of disenfranchised dregs in global corps sweatshop clobber we see today where proper diversity and worthwhile rebellion; agendas used to exist gave rise to scumbag/scanger. Gangsters? Many snide scummers seem to be dealing with their own personal episode of love/hate as the E wears off.

These hippies profess 'love' but everything about these events is just superficial. Evil cult masquerading as good, where have we heard that before.. hmm. More love in my left nut than an entire pen of e'd up ravers, deluding emselves tbh.. Production line dross, for drones. May seem like it but you don't have to be that. Even my nephew's a little raver now what happened to punks n rockers man.. took solace in the campuses, it seems used to be common at street level. Youth culture is indeed, dead

paulieeye

MagicSean wrote: »

Brain Stroking wrote: »

I didnt say its the government's fault. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking recreational drugs in moderation and alcohol is included in that. Those regular people who wanted a drink in 1930s America did so (and there were millions and millions of them) but were they wrong to do so? No, because there was no proper reason to stop people drinking alcohol. And the only difference between alcohol and the likes of marijuana is that one is legal and the other isnt. An administrative/legislative decision that is not based on the effects of the drugs in question. If it was how could alcohol be legal considering the destrction it causes?
If drugs were legal the criminal element would be gone. By agreeing with the criminalisation of drugs you are 100% creating the illegal drug trade. That is all on you.
You arent going to stop people taking drugs. Prohibition does not work and this has been proven time and time again to be the case. It didnt stop Americans boozing during prohibition and it wont stop people now.

Bull****. Alcohol is legal but the criminal element is still there. Cigarettes are legal but the criminal element is still there. DVDs are legal but the criminal element is still there. Cars are legal but the criminal element is still there. Wether prohibition is right or not is not relevent. The fact is you are freely handing money to people who hurt people to get you your drugs. Accept it and live with it.

Are you comparing drug crime, killings, beatings and all a that to illegally downloading movies??

Also the only avenue to get drugs is thru dealers. Alcohol, ciggies and cars are slightly different

jam_mac_jam

MagicSean wrote: »

Again, the issue of prohibition is irrelevant to my statement. So is the issue of their use or if they are good or bad. The FACT is that drugs are prohibited. The FACT is that they are not necessary for a person to survive. This means that if you buy drugs you are choosing to give money to murderers of your own free will.

Capital letters really convince me that it is in fact a fact. You win there I think.

MagicSean

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Who is the fellah who grows weed in his cupboard killing, exactly?

Nobody. That's why I'm speaking about buying drugs. not manufacturing your own.

criticalcritic

df1985 wrote: »

criticalcritic wrote: »

The druggies on this thread trying to justify their purchasing of their coke and yokes is gas.

They dont want to be lumped in with the heroin zombies you see zonked out on Marlborough Street but your only one step away from them

I find the people posting stuff that shows they dont have a single clue what theyre talking about even more gas.

I work in hospital dude, constantly fed up with morons who take too much coke or 'herbal' E clogging up emergency rooms deflecting treatment from people who are in real need for treatment.

The coke and Herbal high overdoses are treated no different from your average heroin overdose

All morons clogging up health service because they knowingly put toxic substances in their bodies

Slippin Jimmy

paulieeye wrote: »

Are you comparing drug crime, killings, beatings and all a that to illegally downloading movies??

Also the only avenue to get drugs is thru dealers. Alcohol, ciggies and cars are slightly different

You know as well as the poster knows that he is saying even though they are illegal/legal the criminal element is always going to be there. He is not comparing them to murderers or whatever. A criminal is just that, a criminal.

elpistolero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brDluvb4Ums&feature=channel&list=UL this is how ill remember yesterday had a great day only seen 1 punch being thrown, sorry to hear about stabbings and stuff but it happens at all festivals throughout the world, we aint the only ones, time to put on more aftersun

punksanders

Was anybody actually at this gig? Can anyone say what they saw going on there?

MagicSean

paulieeye wrote: »

Are you comparing drug crime, killings, beatings and all a that to illegally downloading movies??

Also the only avenue to get drugs is thru dealers. Alcohol, ciggies and cars are slightly different

The poster i was referring to stated that legalising drugs would remove the criminal element. Alcohol ciggies and cars are all legal but the criminal element remains so why would drugs be any different. It's naieve to think dealers will just disappear if drugs were legalised.

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Capital letters really convince me that it is in fact a fact. You win there I think.

Sometimes it's necessary to stop people strying from the point.

Namlub

LH Pathe wrote: »

Don't mind the gays and hipsters this type of music is the staple of scum on these shores primarily. That one big mono-culture of disenfranchised dregs in global corps sweatshop clobber we see today where proper diversity and worthwhile rebellion; agendas used to exist gave rise to scumbag/scanger. Gangsters? Many snide scummers seem to be dealing with their own personal episode of love/hate as the E wears off.

These hippies profess 'love' but everything about these events is just superficial. Evil cult masquerading as good, where have we heard that before.. hmm. More love in my left nut than an entire pen of e'd up ravers, deluding emselves tbh.. Production line dross, for drones. May seem like it but you don't have to be that. Even my nephew's a little raver now what happened to punks n rockers man.. took solace in the campuses, it seems used to be common at street level. Youth culture is indeed, dead

You really need to take a lie down or something

smileyj1987

My view on drink and drugs is each to their own . If you wanna get pilled or coked off your head then do it just as long as you don't start annoying me or try to cause trouble . If you do any of this then don't take drugs or drink yourself stupid .
What I find more worrying is the fact that people could actually get things to stab people with into concerts . That is a complete joke and they should really change the laws to stop that ever happening again .

PseudoFamous

MagicSean wrote: »

Nobody. That's why I'm speaking about buying drugs. not manufacturing your own.

If I was in the mood for a bag, I'd get it from one of the lads I know who grow it themselves. They are selling it, yes, but they are not killing anyone to get it.

criticalcritic

df1985 wrote: »

criticalcritic wrote: »

The druggieos on this thread trying to justify their purchasing of their coke and yokes is gas.

They dont want to be lumped in with the heroin zombies you see zonked out on Marlborough Street but your only one step away from them

I find the people posting stuff that shows they dont have a single clue what theyre talking about even more gas.

Why are you an expert on narcotic subtances and how harmless they are

Slippin Jimmy

smileyj1987 wrote: »

My view on drink and drugs is each to their own . If you wanna get pilled or coked off your head then do it just as long as you don't start annoying me or try to cause trouble . If you do any of this then don't take drugs or drink yourself stupid .
What I find more worrying is the fact that people could actually get things to stab people with into concerts . That is a complete joke and they should really change the laws to stop that ever happening again .

It's Ireland. They only change laws when it is too late and people are dead.

MagicSean

PseudoFamous wrote: »

If I was in the mood for a bag, I'd get it from one of the lads I know who grow it themselves. They are selling it, yes, but they are not killing anyone to get it.

And if everyone got their drugs the same way the world would probably be a better place. But they don't.

yoyo

smileyj1987 wrote: »

What I find more worrying is the fact that people could actually get things to stab people with into concerts . That is a complete joke and they should really change the laws to stop that ever happening again .

I agree. first thing I thought when I heard it was why they don't use those portable metal detectors for the people passing through. Have 10 different rows and the crowd will get through quickly enough, and trouble makers with knives etc. should be detected. They do this in the UK and it appears to help. Will also probably stop people sneaking in bottles/cans or anything else that may be used by a drunk person as a weapon

Nick

jam_mac_jam

MagicSean wrote: »

And if everyone got their drugs the same way the world would probably be a better place. But they don't.

oh for gods sake, do you drink coke? Do you wear Nike?
Do you think every legal company is sweatness and light.

What do you want free trade drugs, ethical drugs? If the best arguement against ilegal drugs is that criminals make money from it then legalise it. Its actually the best argument for legalising it.

trashcan

Collie D wrote: »

If we were to cull people just because they listen to awful music...

Hmm, your ideas intrigue me. How do I subscribe to your newsletter ?

df1985

criticalcritic wrote: »

I work in hospital dude, constantly fed up with morons who take too much coke or 'herbal' E clogging up emergency rooms deflecting treatment from people who are in real need for treatment.

The coke and Herbal high overdoses are treated no different from your average heroin overdose

All morons clogging up health service because they knowingly put toxic substances in their bodies

In the canteen?

daenerysstormborn3

criticalcritic wrote: »

I work in hospital dude, constantly fed up with morons who take too much coke or 'herbal' E clogging up emergency rooms deflecting treatment from people who are in real need for treatment.

The coke and Herbal high overdoses are treated no different from your average heroin overdose

All morons clogging up health service because they knowingly put toxic substances in their bodies

criticalcritic wrote: »

Why are you an expert on narcotic subtances and how harmless they are

Working in a hospital and saying you deal with overdoses also does not make you an expert.

30txsbzmcu2k9w

Put thousands of young lads who can´t handle their drink together and still people here blaming drugs. :rolleyes:

PseudoFamous

MagicSean wrote: »

And if everyone got their drugs the same way the world would probably be a better place. But they don't.

You've missed my point a bit. There is no murder in dealing weed in Ireland. There aren't a load of big gangs mass producing and selling, monopolising, it is mostly a few lads growing it themselves. It isn't being imported, it's not like the US and Mexico.

Cocaine is a different story, as it is certainly not produced in Ireland. I don't know about Ecstasy, haven't a breeze where that's produced.

paul.

criticalcritic wrote: »

I work in hospital dude, constantly fed up with morons who take too much coke or 'herbal' E clogging up emergency rooms deflecting treatment from people who are in real need for treatment.

The coke and Herbal high overdoses are treated no different from your average heroin overdose

All morons clogging up health service because they knowingly put toxic substances in their bodies

Hahahahaha, I have read this thread from page one and heard a lot of crap, but you made me sign in with your clear ignorance. If you really work in a hospital then you would have firstly admited that 95% of the morons clogging up the A+E after hours are drunk morons. You my friend, are a tool, good day sir :rolleyes:

yoyo

yoyo wrote: »

This bloke did it regularly, however, that is what I was saying in the previous post. It goes to show even "expierienced" users can f*ck up, and nearly end up in a body bag. He still does it now afaik.


I remember reading that it is rare for someone to die from an alcohol overdose, something about when you consume alcohol your body produces liquid to help "dilute" it and the main cause for alcohol related death is choking in own vomit. It can still be a dangerous drug, I'm not suggesting it isn't. I've done a few stupid binges in the past, but never ended up needing hospital treatment.

Nick

I'm agreeing it's dangerous, I'm just pointing out that people think of alcohol poisoning when one doesn't need to get near that point to still possibly die. I've had a close call myself and had to roll someone on their side once. Never had a major issue with the other stuff apart from being an idiot, same as with drink.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Except for the three guys who are still in hospital.

That's one third of them still in hospital.

Earlier it said 1 out of 7. Anyway, just making the point that to call them all attempted murders is a bit much when details are pretty thin on the ground. Though if it turns out as it seems to be worded in that article that someone stabbed at least 9 people over the course of 4-5 hours then there may be some questions that need answering on the organisational side of things.

seanbmc

Namlub wrote: »

You really need to take a lie down or something

I don't even read what he posts, most of it is complete waffle.

Meredith Wonderful Train

Meredith Wonderful Train wrote: »

Put thousands of young lads who can´t handle their drink together and still people here blaming drugs. :rolleyes:

Mind boggling tbh.

LH Pathe

If a raver scanger; let's be more precise here says "goin for a slash" yo best be sure he hasn't got blood on his hands on his return. Slashings are ten a penny at raves down the years, under the banner of 'love'. Usually by gangbangers. Fred Thompson types. There's no doubt what the core audience tends to be but they're not all utter scumbags. that would be stereotyping

criticalcritic

PseudoFamous wrote: »

MagicSean wrote: »

And if everyone got their drugs the same way the world would probably be a better place. But they don't.

You've missed my point a bit. There is no murder in dealing weed in Ireland. There aren't a load of big gangs mass producing and selling, monopolising, it is mostly a few lads growing it themselves. It isn't being imported, it's not like the US and Mexico.

Cocaine is a different story, as it is certainly not produced in Ireland. I don't know about Ecstasy, haven't a breeze where that's produced.

Didnt John Gilligan deal in cannabis?

MagicSean

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

oh for gods sake, do you drink coke? Do you wear Nike?
Do you think every legal company is sweatness and light.

What do you want free trade drugs, ethical drugs? If the best arguement against ilegal drugs is that criminals make money from it then legalise it. Its actually the best argument for legalising it.

I'm not making an argument against legalisation. I'm arguing against people buying drugs from violent dealers.

PseudoFamous wrote: »

You've missed my point a bit. There is no murder in dealing weed in Ireland. There aren't a load of big gangs mass producing and selling, monopolising, it is mostly a few lads growing it themselves. It isn't being imported, it's not like the US and Mexico.

Cocaine is a different story, as it is certainly not produced in Ireland. I don't know about Ecstasy, haven't a breeze where that's produced.

You are living in a dreamworld if you think hash is only sold by home growers in Ireland. It's a massive business in gangland. Just look at all the major seizures.

rickyjb

smileyj1987 wrote: »

My view on drink and drugs is each to their own . If you wanna get pilled or coked off your head then do it just as long as you don't start annoying me or try to cause trouble . If you do any of this then don't take drugs or drink yourself stupid .
What I find more worrying is the fact that people could actually get things to stab people with into concerts . That is a complete joke and they should really change the laws to stop that ever happening again .

Is it true that they sold glass bottles at the concert? Somebody that wasn't there told me this but I find it hard to believe...

B.A._Baracus

hawaiichair wrote: »

I can't blame the stewart for not getting involed there.

I'd be willing to bet a thousand euro Sword Security were handling this event.
They provide the actual security and dozens of stewarts at these shows. Its not up to the stewarts to stop fights.

LH Pathe

Nikki Minaj is live on BBC3. Monitoring the crowd for potential rapist murderers

/after all, what man in his right mind would attend that

tayto lover

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I can't blame the stewart for not getting involed there.

I'd be willing to bet a thousand euro Sword Security were handling this event.
They provide the actual security and dozens of stewarts at these shows. Its not up to the stewarts to stop fights.

Muck savages.

flyswatter

tayto lover wrote: »

Muck savages.

Literally!

steelcityblues

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I can't blame the stewart for not getting involed there.

I'd be willing to bet a thousand euro Sword Security were handling this event.
They provide the actual security and dozens of stewarts at these shows. Its not up to the stewarts to stop fights.

Then, why have them there in the first place? :rolleyes:

average hero

There is a horrible culture in Ireland today I think. As a nation we don't have the maturity to enjoy a glass of wine with dinner, or have two beers when we go out. There is a booze culture of getting absolutely hammered.

If drink is a legal intoxicant and we constantly abuse that and have all sorts of trouble with it, what problems will we have with pyscho-tropic drugs available for people to buy legally?

Couple that with an alarming rise in knife carrying among youths and a plummeting in societies moral and values (life becoming very cheap very fast) and there is a horrible potential for mayhem.