Swedish house mafia stabbings (Updated Mod Warning Post #1)

Skid

Pov06 wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted, but...

WARNING, OVER 18's ONLY!

Only 3,806 times. And it was in T in the Park.

Tombi!

1210m5g wrote: »

I believe scumbags were at fault

Haha yeah true point

MagicSean wrote: »

Where you there?

Where you?

RMD

christmas2012 wrote: »

Its not stereotyping its fact,in the 00's/90's did you ever hear of stabbings taking place at concerts?Im sure when the full story comes out,they will have found they had been out of their mind on substances that you wouldnt have had so easily got in the 90's/00's as it was all E's then,but now its head shop gear and crack(drugs has always been there,but its getting worse for stuff that you wouldnt even hear of,and ive done a study on poly drug use,and its on the increase in ireland,ie kids blind drunk and stoned,getting aggressive)..Im not saying oh its the youth of today etc,im saying its the drugs of today,its totally different now..

If you think the "youth of today" are regularly using Crack you really have no sense of what is going on. I'm 20, know plenty of lads who've smoked weed / hash, taken pills and 1-2 who've snorted coke but never have I heard of someone taking crack. In all honesty I don't even know where I could find it, the other 3 mentioned I could have in an hour with little problem.

Brutal Deluxe

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I don't want to start an argument but if you honestly are trying to say drugs aren't at fault, you're insane.

Sure, alcohol is at fault. But it's at fault along with drugs and general scumbag actions.

You can't just say "nope, it was all the alcohol, the drugs didn't matter at all".

The people who did it are to blame, not alcohol, not drugs.

Thepredator wrote: »

They'll often stagger into the medical tents at these kinds of gigs and complain of being breathless or having palpitations etc and it's usually because they took not one or two E tablets but 5,6,7 or they took a 'bit of speed and a couple of pills' I remember a fella telling me before that he took twenty cos they were '****e' no need to say what his ECG looked like!

Do they usually die though? I've seen people take way too much, certainly couldn't have sought medical attention themselves and didn't really need it.

MagicSean

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

So... the population of prision are allowed to attent concerts now?
I might have to go to the Joy.

People on temporary release or bail are not prevented from going to a concert. And of course i was also including future prisoners

Collie D

MagicSean wrote: »

Where you there?

Nope, I like to think I have a semi-decent taste in music. Were you?

Allyall

I was in the pub with a couple of friends last night when a load of people who had been at the gig came in (off a hired coach). We got talking to some of them, and they said there had been a couple of rows at the entrance when they were going in.
They went on to say that they saw a few or more getting pulled over by the Gardaí, and some were just getting told to calm down, and stop causing trouble. One row was right at the actual entrance, in front of security, and a guy that was with a girl, got a "couple of smacks in the face". The security split it up, separated them, and let all involved in to the concert.. :eek:
One of my friends asked, was it serious, or were they exaggerating, and was told, serious - yes, exaggerating - no. There didn't seem to be any blood, but he did take what seemed to be a couple of hard hits to the head/face, from two guys.

Do they tickets not say "The management have the right to refuse admission."?
Why were these allowed to continue in to the concert?

That is shocking bad, i mean, wtf were the security guards at?

Tombi!

MagicSean wrote: »

People on temporary release or bail are not prevented from going to a concert. And of course i was also including future prisoners

You're such a treat.
"Anyone attending the concert will end up in prision". Not to mention the common sense of "they're not in prision but we'll count them amongst the population".

Riesen_Meal

anhedonia wrote: »

token101 wrote: »

I've not read the whole thread, but I'm sure there's some gob****e here just to say it's the fault of trance/dance music.

Id say its way more Trance's fault than any decent dance music like prog or deep house.

Trance really brings out the E-tard in people.

I don't agree at all, seen some killings at prog gigs over the years, including some lad coming into a place to bash a dj who owed him money, lol

You get scum everywhere, no matter what gig, it just has to be handled right at the time...

MagicSean

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Haha yeah true point

Where you?

I was in the park. Hardly going to waste money buying a ticket for a scumfest.

Thepredator

No one knows what the scumbag/s who carried out the stabbings were on, in fact there's filth out there that wouldnt need drink or drugs to do it anyway! In my opinion it was an already dodgy character made even worse by some kind of drug.

MagicSean

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

You're such a treat.
"Anyone attending the concert will end up in prision". Not to mention the common sense of "they're not in prision but we'll count them amongst the population".

You put those sentances in quotation marks. Do you know what quotation marks are for?

Tombi!

MagicSean wrote: »

I was in the park. Hardly going to waste money buying a ticket for a scumfest.

Lovely, so everyone there is a scumbag?

MagicSean wrote: »

You put those sentances in quotation marks. Do you know what quotation marks are for?

Yes, do you know what over-exgeration and blatant bulls**t is?

token101

MagicSean wrote: »

And the crime rate, social welfare claimants, prison population and overall public order problems.

Why would the prison population have dropped? Just think about that for a second. Are they doing day release to the Phoenix Park now? Maybe you meant to say 'potential prison population'? It's equally as f*cking daft, but at least shows a semblance of logical thought. Think before you type. It helps.

anhedonia wrote: »

Id say its way more Trance's fault than any decent dance music like prog or deep house.

Trance really brings out the E-tard in people.

I'd say you haven't a clue.

derfderf

anhedonia wrote: »

Id say its way more Trance's fault than any decent dance music like prog or deep house.

Trance really brings out the E-tard in people.

Yep, the Swedish HOUSE Mafia, massive trance following. The only reason trance had the scum following was because it was the most popular since the late 90s. Now it's house and they'll have to deal with it.

SHM have all played gigs individually in Ireland with no trouble before (and with a very low attendance). Pharell sings over one of their songs and suddenly everyone's a fan. If Rihanna sang over a Richie hawtin song the same thing would happen

Melion

People blaming weed and pills for any fights last night make me laugh. Smoke weed and you wont be able to fight. Take pills and you'll be too loved up to want to fight.

derfderf

Melion wrote: »

People blaming weed and pills for any fights last night make me laugh. Smoke weed and you wont be able to fight. Take pills and you'll be too loved up to want to fight.

It does make it easier to filter out the people that haven't a clue what they're talking about though.

KingK

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

Melion

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

And you know this how?
Why didnt they go on Thursday night instead?

df1985

MagicSean wrote: »

And the crime rate, social welfare claimants, prison population and overall public order problems.

oh piss off.

I was at the gig last night, yes i was on drugs, the only altercation i had was putting my arms around random people all loved up, and 9am tomorrow ill be back beihind the office desk working 9-5 paying my taxes like everyone else.

Dont tar everyone with the same brush.


On a serious note, I hope the people stabbed ok. and for the folks who overdosed...they only wanted a good time like everyone else. god help their families.

Real Life

my brother just got home from it now, said he saw 1 fight, 1 girl passed out but otherwise not much trouble. he only heard about the stabbings and the od's on the bus on the way home today.

Tombi!

df1985 wrote: »

I hope the people stabbed ok.

Best typo ever.

Collie D

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

By that rationale it would also be safe to say you're exaggerating or just talking plain old BS

token101

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

Can I make a counter point? 7 people were stabbed. Even it was 45 people in total who overdosed, stabbed others, that's still only 0.1%. So, using logical thought instead of arbitrary accusations, I believe that 99.9% were there just to watch SHM and have a good time.

Namlub

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

It would be safe to say that 93.464585% of statistics on the internet are wrong

Pudsy33

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

Thats just crap tbh. I would say its safe to say 99% were there for the music.

Thepredator

Buttonftw wrote: »

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I don't want to start an argument but if you honestly are trying to say drugs aren't at fault, you're insane.

Sure, alcohol is at fault. But it's at fault along with drugs and general scumbag actions.

You can't just say "nope, it was all the alcohol, the drugs didn't matter at all".

The people who did it are to blame, not alcohol, not drugs.

Thepredator wrote: »

They'll often stagger into the medical tents at these kinds of gigs and complain of being breathless or having palpitations etc and it's usually because they took not one or two E tablets but 5,6,7 or they took a 'bit of speed and a couple of pills' I remember a fella telling me before that he took twenty cos they were '****e' no need to say what his ECG looked like!

Do they usually die though? I've seen people take way too much, certainly couldn't have sought medical attention themselves and didn't really need it.

It was more the mentality of people that I was getting at, and I've seen a couple that would have been up **** creek if it wasn't for medical intervention.

KingK

Melion wrote: »

And you know this how?
Why didnt they go on Thursday night instead?

Dance/trance music or what ever it is they play is going to be where they would want to be popping pills and what not. Not alot of teens in Ireland are big Stone Roses fans. Look at SHM record sales in Ireland,I would imagine it's **** all

derfderf

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

I know people that went to see them that say they hate dance music?. I'd say the majority there know 2 or 3 songs (the ones that made the top 10) at the most

mikom

MagicSean wrote: »

You put those sentances in quotation marks. Do you know what quotation marks are for?

Not nice when people put words in your mouth......... is it sean?

Tombi!

I think most people were there for a good time. Not in the manner of "get stoned/drunk and tear it up lads" good time. But mostly because it was a gig. I doubt most people went there with the aim of having to fight or getting overly drunk.

Chinasea

yes, we can look at the positive side but we seem to be doing a lot of this. We saw on the one only sunny day here in Sandycove total and utter mob knacker rule.

Your children are not safe out there, it's not handbags at dawn it is knives.

00000 tolerance; laws galore but either no enforcement or no resources to enforce = banana republic.

This city imo is under siege to Knacks.

Collie D

KingK wrote: »

Dance/trance music or what ever it is they play is going to be where they would want to be popping pills and what not. Not alot of teens in Ireland are big Stone Roses fans. Look at SHM record sales in Ireland,I would imagine it's **** all

You do realise that the Roses were at the forefront of the whole late 80s/early 90s E love-in?

Real Life

how come there was no trouble at the stone roses when most of the crowd there would have been using drugs aswell?

Rowley Birkin QC

miju wrote: »

still wont be right

and in fairness to the Gardai they were in present last night in serious numbers

Sounds like you were working at the gig, what was the real story?

Namlub

KingK wrote: »

Dance/trance music or what ever it is they play is going to be where they would want to be popping pills and what not. Not alot of teens in Ireland are big Stone Roses fans.

The clue's in the name...

Look at SHM record sales in Ireland,I would imagine it's **** all

Record sales? Really?

skeleton_boy

KingK wrote: »

Can I just point out something, how many were at this ****e last night? 45,000? It would be safe to say 99% of those there had/have no interest in Swedish House Mafia. It was just an excuse to get 'out of it' and make up for no Oxygen

You can come up with statistics to prove anything. 40% of people know that.

MagicSean

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Lovely, so everyone there is a scumbag?


Yes, do you know what over-exgeration and blatant bulls**t is?

Everyone i saw could be classed there yes. But i suppose it depends on what you class as a scumbag. Personally i find people pissing in a public park to be pretty scummy and that alone was rampant.

token101 wrote: »

Why would the prison population have dropped? Just think about that for a second. Are they doing day release to the Phoenix Park now? Maybe you meant to say 'potential prison population'? It's equally as f*cking daft, but at least shows a semblance of logical thought. Think before you type. It helps.

I'd be confident that a good chunk of the people there were on TR, bail or had warrants for them.

token101

token101 wrote: »

Can I make a counter point? 7 people were stabbed. Even it was 45 people in total who overdosed, stabbed others, that's still only 0.01%. So, using logical thought instead of arbitrary accusations, I believe that 99.99% were there just to watch SHM and have a good time.

0.1%, not 0.01% :pac:

Kur4mA

Real Life wrote: »

how come there was no trouble at the stone roses when most of the crowd there would have been using drugs aswell?

Simples. Different crowd completely. Your average scum has the same taste in music as a donkey does, and would have no clue who The Stone Roses are. So, basically they didn't turn up like they did at Swedish House Mafia. I think pointing fingers at drug use for the stabbings is a bit harsh at the moment.

derfderf

Namlub wrote: »

The clue's in the name...

Record sales? Really?

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Intensive Care Bear

Real Life wrote: »

how come there was no trouble at the stone roses when most of the crowd there would have been using drugs aswell?

Simple, there wasn't as many scumbags at it.

Real Life

kyub wrote: »

Simples. Different crowd completely. Your average scum has the same taste in music as a donkey does, and would have no clue who The Stone Roses are. So, basically they didn't turn up like they did at Swedish House Mafia. I think pointing fingers at drug use for the stabbings is a bit harsh at the moment.

thats exactly the point im trying to make, it wasnt the drug use. it was the people.

LeftFull

It is a fact that there are people who go to these things for a ''day out on the tear'' and do not care about the music. People that know that there will be lads and girls that will not be as confrontational who they can take advantage of. Anyone who has been to these concerts will have seen this along with Oxegen.

Means Of Escape

"I was putting my arms around random people all loved up"








Lucky you didn't get your head kicked in for that!!

kryogen

Scum will be scum.

At an event with a large amount of people there is always going to be the danger of trouble, sometimes it kicks off, others times not.

you get plenty of trouble in city centres around the country every weekend, its a human condition. Some people are just dickheads

flutterflye

mikom wrote: »

Were they the ones which done the stabbings guv'ner?

I've no idea - I wasn't there, and there doesn't seem to be any decent reports anywhere.
I never insinuated that drugs were the blame for any stabbings.
But they are the blame for the alleged deaths of 3 people.

derfderf

1210m5g wrote: »

Simple, there wasn't as many scumbags at it.

And the stone roses had broken up when half yesterdays crowd were still in nappies

jdooley28

Deleted User wrote: »

0.1%, not 0.01% :pac:

What now?

B.A._Baracus

Pov06 wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted, but...

WARNING, OVER 18's ONLY!

Brilliant :pac: