Fifty Shades of Grey

LuckyLloyd

Don't think it will bomb tbh. Will garner plenty of curiosity, will have glossy trailers and a few spicey (but not too spicey) scenes. It may very well be a bad film, but expect a financially successful one.

Sleepy

I'd take the casting of two fairly small names as the leads to indicate that the studio is afraid to invest too much in it so, while it may well be commercially successful, I can't see it doing big numbers at the box office. Movies aren't like books, people tend to go in couples or groups and with such a widely reviled source material, I can't see all those women who bought the book dragging their boyfriends along to it though, tbh, from the amount of women I know who read it purely out of curiosity and regarded it as rubbish, I can't see a huge number of those who read the book shelling out to see it either.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Sleepy wrote: »

I'd take the casting of two fairly small names as the leads to indicate that the studio is afraid to invest too much in it so, while it may well be commercially successful, I can't see it doing big numbers at the box office.

I would take the casting of two fairly small names as the leads to indicate that nobody with any kind of pre existing name in Hollywood wanted to touch this thing with a barge pole.

krudler

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I would take the casting of two fairly small names as the leads to indicate that nobody with any kind of pre existing name in Hollywood wanted to touch this thing with a barge pole.

There was a rumour of Emma Watson being cast at one point but that thankfully turned out to be horsesh1te, she seems too smart to be involved in something as bad as this.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

krudler wrote: »

There was a rumour of Emma Watson being cast at one point but that thankfully turned out to be horsesh1te, she seems too smart to be involved in something as bad as this.

She tweeted back in March...

"Who here actually thinks I would do 50 Shades of Grey as a movie? Like really. For real. In real life."

"Good. Well that's that sorted then."

JP Liz V1

Sleepy wrote: »

I'd take the casting of two fairly small names as the leads to indicate that the studio is afraid to invest too much in it so, while it may well be commercially successful, I can't see it doing big numbers at the box office. Movies aren't like books, people tend to go in couples or groups and with such a widely reviled source material, I can't see all those women who bought the book dragging their boyfriends along to it though, tbh, from the amount of women I know who read it purely out of curiosity and regarded it as rubbish, I can't see a huge number of those who read the book shelling out to see it either.

I would think Charlie Hunnam is a fairly big name from Pacific Rim and Sons of Anarchy, kinda surprised he went for this role myself

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I would think Charlie Hunnam is a fairly big name from Pacific Rim and Sons of Anarchy, kinda surprised he went for this role myself

Wasn't he in the original British Queer as Folk? I don't think the soft porn nature of it would bother him but it just feels like the kind of film that will be very hard to shake off in the future. A weird decision indeed.

JP Liz V1

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Wasn't he in the original British Queer as Folk? I don't think the soft porn nature of it would bother him but it just feels like the kind of film that will be very hard to shake off in the future. A weird decision indeed.

Yep and Byker Grove :P

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yep and Byker Grove :P

No way!

Potential-Monke

krudler wrote: »

There was a rumour of Emma Watson being cast at one point but that thankfully turned out to be horsesh1te, she seems too smart to be involved in something as bad as this.

I would have gone to see it if she was cast. Just for the kinky outfits and bondage and softcore porn. I haven't read the books, but from what people say of it, Emma Watson in those situations would draw a huge crowd by itself.

Femme_Fatale

Is Emma Watson's hotness due to her being jailbait up to recently?

Anyway, the fact the lead role is going to someone who was in *Cheryl Cole accent* Beekah Groov, is just further evidence of the book's naffness.

LuckyLloyd

Emma Watson's hotness is due to her being incredibly attractive. She hasn't been jailbait for a few years now.

Sleepy

I'd have happily paid to go see it if it had Emma Watson in it. Though, I'd have probably brought some headphones and an audio book too

Femme_Fatale

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Emma Watson's hotness is due to her being incredibly attractive.

Oh right. I don't get it.

She looked better with longer hair all right but I suppose she wanted to kill off the hermione image

LuckyLloyd

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Oh right. I don't get it.

These things are subjective you'll find.

Liam O

Hunnam is a very likeable actor, not hit the heights he could have but made some good things, shame he's in this crap.

Potential-Monke

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Oh right. I don't get it.

What's not to get?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

List of a few people who turned the roles down... http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a512632/50-shades-of-grey-turned-down-by-ryan-gosling-shailene-woodley-more.html

Apparently people have started a petition to get two other people cast in the roles, not sure if it was started before or after these two were cast.

LuckyLloyd

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

List of a few people who turned the roles down... http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a512632/50-shades-of-grey-turned-down-by-ryan-gosling-shailene-woodley-more.html

Apparently people have started a petition to get two other people cast in the roles, not sure if it was started before or after these two were cast.

Dakota Johnson is perfectly acceptable!!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Dakota Johnson is perfectly acceptable!!

Her mother is super proud apparently. But she is Melanie Griffith, so....

Kirby

Dakota Johnson is an awful looking yoke. Of all the beautiful women in Hollywood they could have chosen, and they go with her. LuckyLloyd, between her and Emma Watson you have some strange tastes.

Apparently the character in the book is a bit of a plane Jane so I suppose it makes sense. The audience will be mostly women anyway so I suppose it will help them relate to the character.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Charlie Hunnam has dropped out due to "scheduling" http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/charlie-hunnam-drops-fifty-shades-648066

JP Liz V1

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Charlie Hunnam has dropped out due to "scheduling" http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/charlie-hunnam-drops-fifty-shades-648066

Wise decision by him

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Wise decision by him

Why exactly is that? Surely for an actor like Hunnam it's the role of a life time and one that would see him skyrocket into the A list. Hunnam may be in a critically acclaimed, long running show but with that ending next year and his previous theatrical releases failing to set the box office alight he needs a major role in a sure fire hit if he hopes to capitalise on his SoA success. Bar Pacific Rim none of his previous theatrical release in recent years have been successful and while he has a few interesting roles coming up, none of them are going to set the box office alight.

Sleepy

This is almost definitely going to earn a few razzies and being in a stinker early in your career can end it prematurely.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I suppose it depends on what kind of career you want? Some actors might put the quality of their work over the financial success of it. Having a regular TV job for X amount of seasons is bound to have paid well so being a "huge" star might not be that important to some.

The article does claim it's his TV schedule that forced him to drop out. I'd assume he saw a script and met with the director before signing on and the whole world and their mother (especially their mothers) know what it's about so it seems unlikely he'd just have changed his mind about the credibility of it.

Speaking of the script, I've heard from a few people who have had a look at the thing, that it's not all that bad and there's a lot of potential for a decent film. Granted it's not something I would ever have any interest in watching but it's going to be interesting to see just how it comes out as from the extracts I've seen the entire book is akin to poorly written 90s porn.

JP Liz V1

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Why exactly is that? Surely for an actor like Hunnam it's the role of a life time and one that would see him skyrocket into the A list. Hunnam may be in a critically acclaimed, long running show but with that ending next year and his previous theatrical releases failing to set the box office alight he needs a major role in a sure fire hit if he hopes to capitalise on his SoA success. Bar Pacific Rim none of his previous theatrical release in recent years have been successful and while he has a few interesting roles coming up, none of them are going to set the box office alight.

It could also kill his career, I really don't see this film being a huge box office success

JP Liz V1

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It could also kill his career, I really don't see this film being a huge box office success

It's One of the best selling novels of all time and as such there is a massive existing fanbase. There's no way that film will be anything other than a success given how cheaply they can make it as well as the fact that already anticipation for it is massive. As for it destroying his career, one role isn't going to end a career especially for an actor with so many interesting projects in development. If the film was a bomb or under performed substantially then it may hurt his ascension to the A list but he wouldn't find work hard to come by.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It could also kill his career, I really don't see this film being a huge box office success

It'll be interesting to see if it is or not. The book was huge but then again I saw a lot of people trying to hide the fact that they were reading it, or they read it on their kindles so nobody could see. You can't really hide the fact that you're going to see it. I think it'll be successful, the first one will anyway. People will go out of curiosity if nothing else.
Being in a financially successful film doesn't always equate career success though. I think a role like this one is a bit of a risk really. Could pay off hugely, could kill your career.

By no means the same thing but look at Brandon Routh playing an iconic role like Superman. Has anyone heard of him since?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see if it is or not. The book was huge but then again I saw a lot of people trying to hide the fact that they were reading it, or they read it on their kindles so nobody could see. You can't really hide the fact that you're going to see it. I think it'll be successful, the first one will anyway. People will go out of curiosity if nothing else.
Being in a financially successful film doesn't always equate career success though. I think a role like this one is a bit of a risk really. Could pay off hugely, could kill your career.

By no means the same thing but look at Brandon Routh playing an iconic role like Superman. Has anyone heard of him since?

Routh has done a lot of interesting indie films as well as the Dylan Dog film which was plagued with various issues from the start. He has a few interesting roles coming up and it's unfair that his career suffered due to the backlash directed at Returns. It's a damn good film and one in need of serious critical reevaluation.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Deleted User wrote: »

Routh has done a lot of interesting indie films as well as the Dylan Dog film which was plagued with various issues from the start. He has a few interesting roles coming up and it's unfair that his career suffered due to the backlash directed at Returns. It's a damn good film and one in need of serious critical reevaluation.

I thought it was a terrible film, but the point remains that you can't really predict what impact a film will have on someone's career until it happens.

Kylo Ren

A book based on Twilight fan fiction is getting a movie.

Your man did right in avoiding it.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I thought it was a terrible film, but the point remains that you can't really predict what impact a film will have on someone's career until it happens.

The difference between someone like Routh and Hunnam is that Hunnam already has a high profile and a number of starring roles in some big pictures. Whereas Routh was a complete nobody plucked from obscurity who we'd have never heard of has it not been his casting in Returns.

JP Liz V1

Deleted User wrote: »

Routh has done a lot of interesting indie films as well as the Dylan Dog film which was plagued with various issues from the start. He has a few interesting roles coming up and it's unfair that his career suffered due to the backlash directed at Returns. It's a damn good film and one in need of serious critical reevaluation.

Routh was the best thing in SR imo

I'd say Hunnam maybe didn't like the attention being attached to this role was bringing him

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'd say Hunnam maybe didn't like the attention being attached to this role was bringing him

Could be, although it seems unlikely anyone wouldn't be aware of how much hype surrounds this thing... unless they've been living under a rock.

Corholio

I think it's the type of film will be a success commercially but may be a bomb with critics. I guess in that regard he may not have wanted that following him around.

pixelburp

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It's One of the best selling novels of all time and as such there is a massive existing fanbase. There's no way that film will be anything other than a success given how cheaply they can make it as well as the fact that already anticipation for it is massive. [...]

'Fanbase' and 'anticipation' seem like strong words; to his untrained eye the craze for the book seems like a fad that was successful because of the relative anonymity of e-readers, which allowed the curious and bored to download a 'smutty' book that had garnered infamy for both its eroticism and dreadful writing (I've not read it in full myself, but plenty of passages and woo-ee, the writing is terrible, betraying it's fan-fiction origins). I know a lot of people who downloaded 50 Shades 'just to see what the fuss was about'. Kindle editions are also much cheaper iirc, which would have helped to bulk up sales via passing interest.

Massive sales don't tell the whole story or equate to a groundswell of desire to see a film adaptation. There's a big difference then between asking someone to quietly shell out money on a private read and going to the cinema, in public, to watch an adaptation of a guilty throwaway pleasure. I think the studios are overestimating the interest in this book tbh. We shall see of course.

Mickeroo

The folks who read the book were pretty open about reading it I thought, there was a huge media frenzy around it for a few weeks too just as there will be for the film when it eventually comes out. I can't see how this film would fail to make money regardless of quality tbh.

pixelburp

pixelburp wrote: »

'Fanbase' and 'anticipation' seem like strong words; to his untrained eye the craze for the book seems like a fad that was successful because of the relative anonymity of e-readers, which allowed the curious and bored to download a 'smutty' book that had garnered infamy for both its eroticism and dreadful writing (I've not read it in full myself, but plenty of passages and woo-ee, the writing is terrible, betraying it's fan-fiction origins). I know a lot of people who downloaded 50 Shades 'just to see what the fuss was about'. Kindle editions are also much cheaper iirc, which would have helped to bulk up sales via passing interest.

Massive sales don't tell the whole story or equate to a groundswell of desire to see a film adaptation. There's a big difference then between asking someone to quietly shell out money on a private read and going to the cinema, in public, to watch an adaptation of a guilty throwaway pleasure. I think the studios are overestimating the interest in this book tbh. We shall see of course.

People reading something just to see what all the fuss is about only make up a tiny percentage of the overall readership. 50 Shades was a huge bestseller and very few people seemed ashamed to be seen reading it given that at the height of the phenomenal buses and trains were filled with women reading it.

The only people who seemed ashamed to read the book were all those ironic hipsters who read it to mock others. Now I'm sure the novel is atrocious and from everything I saw its terrible written but if people enjoy it then so be it and reading about the interest in film it seems that there's quite a lot of people interested in seeing it. Not since Twilight has the adaptation og such a poor piece of literature been so anticipated. There's really no way that the film won't be huge. It can be made for next to nothing and the existing fanbase will head to it in droves. It's the kind of film that groups if women will head to see on a Friday night and every time a malw character takes off his shirt they will go wild.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Northern Irish actor Jamie Dornan is now being linked with the role along with Alexander Skarsgard and some of the names that were being branded about before Hunam was cast.. ...

http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/the-fall-star-jamie-dornan-tipped-for-fifty-shades-lead-role-29661284.html

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

New info on why Hunnam left. Was only being paid 125k and he had a lot of notes on the script.....

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/charlie-hunnam-was-only-going-to-make-125-000-for-fifty-shades-of-grey-gave-filmmakers-detailed-script-notes-20131016?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

kryogen

Hunnam left? Nice

Sleepy

A lot more women will read smut than watch it. Mills & Boon are a publishing powerhouse but if you look at the most popular womens movies they tend to be more towards the Chicklit end of the publishing market (i.e. the Nicholas Sparks' / Helen Fielding / Candace Bushnall's of this world).

That said, there's no reason this should be an expensive movie to shoot, there's no CGI required, a limited cast and since no big name will go near it, no multi-million paycheques for the cast. I've no doubt it'll make money (but then again, so does the likes of Sharknado), and possibly a fantastic return on the investment but I don't see it being this year's Twilight or Harry Potter in terms of box office.

JP Liz V1

Patrick Marber in now to "do a polish and character work on the script" and Scott Eastwood (Clint's son) another name touted for the lead role

Tinie

The only way I would have watched this film, is if Emma watson had indeed signed up for it.

Corholio

Tinie wrote: »

The only way I would have watched this film, is if Emma watson had indeed signed up for it.

Would she be playing the wooden paddle used? :pac:

JP Liz V1

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Northern Irish actor Jamie Dornan is now being linked with the role along with Alexander Skarsgard and some of the names that were being branded about before Hunam was cast.. ...

http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/the-fall-star-jamie-dornan-tipped-for-fifty-shades-lead-role-29661284.html

Dornan has the job now

JP Liz V1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4nJX8snP4s