What do you consider a 'culchie' to be?

getz

bb1234567 wrote: »

Dublin is definitely more important to the world than manchester or lyon and possibly miami too. Those cities dont even have much bigger populations than dublin either.

greater dublin including dun laoghaire population- just over 1 million ,gt manchester population just under 3 million,

Tombo2001

getz wrote: »

greater dublin including dun laoghaire population- just over 1 million ,gt manchester population just under 3 million,

According to this source, Dublin is the 454th largest city in the world, in between Pimpri Chinchwad (453rd and Rajkot (455th).

Good going.

Not sure where Waterford ranks.....

http://www.mongabay.com/cities_pop_01.htm

bb1234567

getz wrote: »

greater dublin including dun laoghaire population- just over 1 million ,gt manchester population just under 3 million,

Greater dublin has a population of just over 1.8 million people actually according to the last census.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Dublin_Area

bb1234567

mikemac1 wrote: »

A Tipp girl who moves to attend UCD and returns home at Christmas sounding like a Yank

Is South Dublin the 51st state? What's with the American accent?

Its the american tv shows! the likes of nickelodeon and disney channel. My younger brother and sister both speak like the actors on the tv shows now and have been asked if they were american many times actually...

crazy cabbage

The only people that i have ever heard use the word culchie are from the pale

summerskin

bb1234567 wrote: »

Greater dublin has a population of just over 1.8 million people actually according to the last census.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Dublin_Area

So still around a million or so less than greater manchester.

"Today, Greater Manchester is the economic centre of the North West region of England and is the largest sub-regional economy in the UK outside London and South East England.[122] Greater Manchester represents more than £42 billion of the UK regional GVA, more than Wales, Northern Ireland or North East England. It is the third most visited city in the United Kingdom by foreign visitors[127] and is now often considered to be the second city of the UK."

fakearms123

Hands like shovels

Distinct smell of cabbage

All weather is described with the adjective 'fierce' i.e. "it's fierce mild"

Some words might contain extra syllables e.g. "Go awayayayay"

Everyone on small roads deserve a salute, it's a sin otherwise

Pub quizzes contain questions on local knowledge e.g. "Who is Sheila O'Sullivan's daughter married to?"

To place who you are, a culchie will do a mental investigation of your family tree i.e. "Ah so your Christy's grandson, your position in society has been validated"

Red face, freckles, cheque shirts and flared jeans in a nightclub, begin their advance on women with a wink

Big weddings

Nose hair and combed eyebrows

Funeral homes can become social events

Limited selection of crisps at newsagents

To Alcohol

bb1234567 wrote: »

Greater dublin has a population of just over 1.8 million people actually according to the last census.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Dublin_Area

That link and thus the 1.8 million includes Kildare, Meath, Louth and Wicklow.

"The population of the Greater Dublin Area (using the second definition of Dublin City, Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown, Fingal, South Dublin, Kildare, Meath and Wicklow) as of Census 2011 was 1,801,040 persons."


Kildare, Meath, Louth and Wicklow are not Dublin so the Dublin population is closer to 1 million

RobbieTheRobber

summerskin wrote: »

So still around a million or so less than greater manchester.

"Today, Greater Manchester is the economic centre of the North West region of England and is the largest sub-regional economy in the UK outside London and South East England.[122] Greater Manchester represents more than £42 billion of the UK regional GVA, more than Wales, Northern Ireland or North East England. It is the third most visited city in the United Kingdom by foreign visitors[127] and is now often considered to be the second city of the UK."

You do know greater manchester refers to
1.Manchester
2.Stockport
3.Tameside
4.Oldham
5.Rochdale
6.Bury
7.Bolton
8.Wigan
9.Salford
10.Trafford

Which as well as Machester includes towns bigger than most of the cities in Ireland excluding Dublin cork and belfast.


The city of manchester which has its own coat of arms is the city the greater urban area is just that a greater area for administrative purposes but not a city.

RobbieTheRobber

To Alcohol wrote: »

That link and thus the 1.8 million includes Kildare, Meath, Louth and Wicklow.

"The population of the Greater Dublin Area (using the second definition of Dublin City, Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown, Fingal, South Dublin, Kildare, Meath and Wicklow) as of Census 2011 was 1,801,040 persons."


Kildare, Meath, Louth and Wicklow are not Dublin so the Dublin population is closer to 1 million

yes and when you exclude all the areas outside of the city of manchester the populations is approx half a million

Marcusm

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

You do know greater manchester refers to
1.Manchester
2.Stockport
3.Tameside
4.Oldham
5.Rochdale
6.Bury
7.Bolton
8.Wigan
9.Salford
10.Trafford

Which as well as Machester includes towns bigger than most of the cities in Ireland excluding Dublin cork and belfast.


The city of manchester which has its own coat of arms is the city the greater urban area is just that a greater area for administrative purposes but not a city.

By the same measure, the resident population ofthe City of London is 11,000 rising to 330,000 or so daytime workers!

seachto7

Not on to bash the Dubs, but some Dubs thinking they are more sophisticated than some farmer from down the country is laughable.
The Dub probably has a mortgage for €400,000 for some sh*tbox of a house, while the farmer is now worth a lot of money, and probably sold off a few sites in the good old days. The farmer doesn't feel the need to go around with Hollister on and shades on the head.
The farmer might talk with a thick accent, but at least he doesn't talk like a yank (southside Dub) or like someone who is pi55ed (northside Dub).

Dub is like a provinical UK city. I do like coming up to Dublin, it's a good spot, with some great boozers, and great people, but as someone who lived abroad, I find it laughable when people in Ireland start sneering at where other people come from........EDIT: I just did!!

There now seem to be regular culchies and white trash culchies. White trash culchies live in council estates in small villages, and the estate might have 10 houses, but the lads seem to think that qualifies them to act like toerags or pretend they are "streetwise". A lot of them around Munster would try and put on a Limerick city accent, even though they are more likely to get in a fight with a sheepdog....

RobbieTheRobber

Marcusm wrote: »

By the same measure, the resident population ofthe City of London is 11,000 rising to 330,000 or so daytime workers!

The city of London but not London city which has a a resident population of just under 8 million right

johnr1

Wow OP !!!!!

What an original idea for a thread, it's like, - neverrr been done before....

Will September ever come.....


Ok, I'll humour you,
"Culchie" in my opinion, is a term of abuse directed by people with low self esteem, and even lower manners at others they percieve as being better looking, smarter and more successful than themselves,:) but who don't come from the same city and are therefore in the user's vast experience and unerring judgement, - lesser.

I know a few words to describe these people who use the term, but because I'm not a cunt, I don't use them very often.

In short, its a term of abuse used by people who can't think of any other premise to abuse most of the population of the country on, and I take offence to it.

bb1234567

To Alcohol wrote: »

That link and thus the 1.8 million includes Kildare, Meath, Louth and Wicklow.

"The population of the Greater Dublin Area (using the second definition of Dublin City, Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown, Fingal, South Dublin, Kildare, Meath and Wicklow) as of Census 2011 was 1,801,040 persons."


Kildare, Meath, Louth and Wicklow are not Dublin so the Dublin population is closer to 1 million

Whatever, he said the greater manchester area had about 3 million people and all im saying is greater dublin has 1.8 million people. Im sure the greater manchester area like dublin contains surrounding cities/towns and counties not part of manchester.

analucija

fakearms123 wrote: »

Limited selection of crisps at newsagents

Seriously? And somebody earlier mentioned knowing what "americano" is. You really think that's enough to make you cosmopolitan? What is next?

And here I thought that cosmopolitanism includes ethnic and social diversity, liberal thinking (abortion anyone?), access to art, alternative culture... No it seems to be the fact that you can distinguish lousy instant coffee from an lousy watered down regular coffee and can buy gourmet Tayto's in the newsagents. No offence but some of the lists here are more embarrassing for whoever writes them and not for culchies.

Sea Filly

Pushtrak wrote: »

There certainly are. You shouldn't need me to tell you that, though.

Oh snap, girlfrien'!

Felexicon

johnr1 wrote: »

Wow OP !!!!!

What an original idea for a thread, it's like, - neverrr been done before....

Will September ever come.....


Ok, I'll humour you,
"Culchie" in my opinion, is a term of abuse directed by people with low self esteem, and even lower manners at others they percieve as being better looking, smarter and more successful than themselves,:) but who don't come from the same city and are therefore in the user's vast experience and unerring judgement, - lesser.

I know a few words to describe these people who use the term, but because I'm not a cunt, I don't use them very often.

In short, its a term of abuse used by people who can't think of any other premise to abuse most of the population of the country on, and I take offence to it.

Classic Culchie attitude right here.

Blackhorse Slim

Anyone who doesn't know where the Five Lamps is.

And if you do know where the Five Lamps is, you know what to do.

johnr1

Felexicon wrote: »

Classic Culchie attitude right here.

No thanks, I don't want to be banned.

Marcusm

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

The city of London but not London city which has a a resident population of just under 8 million right

Not sure what you mean by London City apart from the airport. The City f London plus the City of Westminster plus approx 25 other boroughs (many of which are historically large towns ad some which have applied for city status) forms an area which is governed by the Greater London Assembly but there is no London city other than City of London and City of Westminster!!

Different from New York City which is made up of 5 boroughs (Manhattan - technically New York County, Queen's County, Brooklyn - technically King's County, the Bronx and Staten Island).

Marcusm

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't know where the Five Lamps is.

And if you do know where the Five Lamps is, you know what to do.

That's ****e, most south sides don't knw 5 Lamps; I do and I'm a culchie (by many measures) despite being more cosmopolitan than 95% of you jackeens.

summerskin

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

The city of London but not London city which has a a resident population of just under 8 million right

Wrong, that area is Greater London, not London City.

Felexicon

johnr1 wrote: »

No thanks, I don't want to be banned.

You mad bro?

el diablo

seachto7 wrote: »

Not on to bash the Dubs, but some Dubs thinking they are more sophisticated than some farmer from down the country is laughable.
The Dub probably has a mortgage for €400,000 for some sh*tbox of a house, while the farmer is now worth a lot of money, and probably sold off a few sites in the good old days. The farmer doesn't feel the need to go around with Hollister on and shades on the head.
The farmer might talk with a thick accent, but at least he doesn't talk like a yank (southside Dub) or like someone who is pi55ed (northside Dub).

.................................

There now seem to be regular culchies and white trash culchies. White trash culchies live in council estates in small villages, and the estate might have 10 houses, but the lads seem to think that qualifies them to act like toerags or pretend they are "streetwise". A lot of them around Munster would try and put on a Limerick city accent, even though they are more likely to get in a fight with a sheepdog....

Most nonsensical post I've ever read on boards.ie. Well done.

summerskin

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

You do know greater manchester refers to
1.Manchester
2.Stockport
3.Tameside
4.Oldham
5.Rochdale
6.Bury
7.Bolton
8.Wigan
9.Salford
10.Trafford

Which as well as Machester includes towns bigger than most of the cities in Ireland excluding Dublin cork and belfast.


The city of manchester which has its own coat of arms is the city the greater urban area is just that a greater area for administrative purposes but not a city.

Why yes I do, as I was born and raised there and lived there until my early 20s. Was born in Tameside, lived in Oldham, went to school in Manchester, worked in Bury, played rugby in Wigan etc. You could say i know the place quite well.

RobbieTheRobber

Marcusm wrote: »

Not sure what you mean by London City apart from the airport. The City f London plus the City of Westminster plus approx 25 other boroughs (many of which are historically large towns ad some which have applied for city status) forms an area which is governed by the Greater London Assembly but there is no London city other than City of London and City of Westminster!!

Different from New York City which is made up of 5 boroughs (Manhattan - technically New York County, Queen's County, Brooklyn - technically King's County, the Bronx and Staten Island).

I dont know why people get so pedantic about stupid issues but ok

The name London originally referred only to the once-walled "Square Mile" of the original Roman (and later medieval) city (confusingly called the "City of London" or just "The City"). Today, London has taken on a much larger meaning to include all of the vast central parts of the modern metropolis, with the city having absorbed numerous surrounding towns and villages over the centuries, including large portions of the surrounding "home counties", one of which - Middlesex - being completely consumed by the growing metropolis. The term Greater London embraces Central London together with all the outlying suburbs that lie in one continuous urban sprawl within the lower Thames valley. Though densely populated by New World standards, London retains large swathes of green parkland and open space, even within the city centre.

http://wikitravel.org/en/London


Or try the Official visit London site, where it refers to visiting London City
http://www.visitlondon.com/

Also how about the definition of city
cit·y/ˈsitē/Noun:
1. A large town.
2.The financial and commercial district of London, England.
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&biw=1259&bih=848&q=define+city&oq=define+city&aq=f&aqi=g-c9g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=20415l21492l0l2l2l0l0l0l0l171l234l1.13l0l9l9l1l6l0l0l171l264l1.1

johnr1

Felexicon wrote: »

You mad bro?

Nope.... You suffering from stockholm syndrome? given your location..

getz

summerskin wrote: »

Why yes I do, as I was born and raised there and lived there until my early 20s. Was born in Tameside, lived in Oldham, went to school in Manchester, worked in Bury, played rugby in Wigan etc. You could say i know the place quite well.

i know it better than you ,born in altrincham[trafford] lived and worked in bury[macphersons paints] in all for 65 years, played darts for bury and lancashire, and my dads bigger than your dad.

Marcusm

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I dont know why people get so pedantic about stupid issues but ok


http://wikitravel.org/en/London


Or try the Official visit London site, where it refers to visiting London City has maps of London city
http://www.visitlondon.com/

Also how about the definition of city
cit·y/ˈsitē/Noun:
1. A large town.
2.The financial and commercial district of London, England.
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&biw=1259&bih=848&q=define+city&oq=define+city&aq=f&aqi=g-c9g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=20415l21492l0l2l2l0l0l0l0l171l234l1.13l0l9l9l1l6l0l0l171l264l1.1

I'm not sure your arguments are entirely cogent; you argue for a arrow definition of Manchester to include only the areas in the centre but propose an entirely different definition of London. Can you square this off?

fishy fishy

in a nutshell,

a culchie is from anywhere outside of Dublin

A Jackeen is for any Dub.

Doesn't matter how you live or what you have - a dub is a jack, the rest of ireland are culchies.

That's it - it's quite simple really.

Let's not make a meal of it okay??

getz

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I dont know why people get so pedantic about stupid issues but ok


http://wikitravel.org/en/London


Or try the Official visit London site, where it refers to visiting London City
http://www.visitlondon.com/

Also how about the definition of city
cit·y/ˈsitē/Noun:
1. A large town.
2.The financial and commercial district of London, England.
http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&biw=1259&bih=848&q=define+city&oq=define+city&aq=f&aqi=g-c9g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=20415l21492l0l2l2l0l0l0l0l171l234l1.13l0l9l9l1l6l0l0l171l264l1.1

city status in the UK can only be granted by the monarchy,in the case of gt manchester it encompasses the city of salford.

war_child

@ fishy that pretty much sums it up im from Dublin but live in waterford.

Always considered anyone out side Dublin a culchie and i was a jack ...but it really doesnt matter we're all Irish so have a pint and smile.

But there is also an arguement that any county with a cathedral is considered a city. So this debate could just go on and on.

Sea Filly

summerskin wrote: »

Why yes I do, as I was born and raised there and lived there until my early 20s. Was born in Tameside, lived in Oldham, went to school in Manchester, worked in Bury, played rugby in Wigan etc. You could say i know the place quite well.

Ah ok, biased then. Your talking up of a fairly bogstandard city to a ridiculous degree makes sense now. :cool:

RobbieTheRobber

Marcusm wrote: »

I'm not sure your arguments are entirely cogent; you argue for a arrow definition of Manchester to include only the areas in the centre but propose an entirely different definition of London. Can you square this off?

To be arrow with you
You are referring to an area of London known as the city of london, I am referring to the large or important town known as London and am correctly using the word City to describe it.

With Manchester I am trying to define the large or important town of Manchester to distinguish it from the greater manchester area, in this instance using the Manchester city administrative area is useful because the larger Greater manchester area does not have one large or important town which stretches from say stockport across manchester to bolton so we would not describe this area as a city.

getz

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

To be arrow with you
You are referring to an area of London known as the city of london, I am referring to the large or important town known as London and am correctly using the word City to describe it.

With Manchester I am trying to define the large or important town of Manchester to distinguish it from the greater manchester area, in this instance using the Manchester city administrative area is useful because the larger Greater manchester area does not have one large or important town which stretches from say wstockport across manchester to bolton so we would not describe this area as a city.

there is a area in london that is known as london town ,its one sq mile

Tombo2001

Sea Filly wrote: »

Ah ok, biased then. Your talking up of a fairly bogstandard city to a ridiculous degree makes sense now. :cool:

You are acting the maggot there a bit Sea Filly....

Bog Standard city....

Biggest football club in the world?

and seperately, the richest football club in the world?

You wont see too many Malaysians knocking about in Bohs jerseys.

And thats before we get into the music.

Or the most licensed TV show in history.

RobbieTheRobber

getz wrote: »

there is a area in london that is known as london town ,its one sq mile

Really where?

Sea Filly

Tombo2001 wrote: »

You are acting the maggot there a bit Sea Filly....

Bog Standard city....

Biggest football club in the world?

and seperately, the richest football club in the world?

You wont see too many Malaysians knocking about in Bohs jerseys.

And thats before we get into the music.

Or the most licensed TV show in history.

Soooo... football then? That's all you've got? Manchester is grand, I liked it well enough. Just grand though, nothing more. Dublin > Manchester. As I'm not a football fan, all that doesn't really matter to me.

Re: music, yes, great bands, back in the day. Same as Dublin.

Marcusm

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

To be arrow with you
You are referring to an area of London known as the city of london, I am referring to the large or important town known as London and am correctly using the word City to describe it.

With Manchester I am trying to define the large or important town of Manchester to distinguish it from the greater manchester area, in this instance using the Manchester city administrative area is useful because the larger Greater manchester area does not have one large or important town which stretches from say stockport across manchester to bolton so we would not describe this area as a city.

Apologies for missin the n in narrow.

What "area" of a town do you know which has its own Lord Mayor, police force etc? Where do you draw the boundary of London? Is Croydon part of London? Did you know that until 1885 the counties of Surrey, Middlesex etc basically carried up to the walls of the City of London? The point I'm trying to get across is that you need to have a similar eye to both cities or both large metropolitan areas if you like.

RobbieTheRobber

getz wrote: »

city status in the UK can only be granted by the monarchy,in the case of gt manchester it encompasses the city of salford.

Dont think so buddy.

An act of parliament has to be approved by the monarchy right?
If it does then Salford was given its own city status in 1972
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Salford

summerskin

getz wrote: »

there is a area in london that is known as london town ,its one sq mile

Nope, that's the City of London, with the dragons at each entrance to the city, (Farringdon etc).

"The City of London is an area in central London, England. In the medieval period it constituted most of London, but the conurbation has grown far beyond it.[2] As the City’s boundaries have remained almost unchanged since the Middle Ages, it is now only a tiny part of the metropolis, though it remains a notable part of central London, holds city status in its own right, and is a separate ceremonial county.
It is often referred to as the City (often written on maps as "City") or the Square Mile, as it is just over one square mile (1.12 sq mi/2.90 km2)[3] in area. These terms are also often used as metonyms for the United Kingdom's financial services industry, which continues a notable history of being based in the City.[4]"

Marcusm

getz wrote: »

there is a area in london that is known as london town ,its one sq mile

Nope, there is not. There is the City of London which conforms roughly to the area you describe. It has it's own Lord Mayor, police force etc.

RobbieTheRobber

Marcusm wrote: »

Apologies for missin the n in narrow.

What "area" of a town do you know which has its own Lord Mayor, police force etc? Where do you draw the boundary of London? Is Croydon part of London? Did you know that until 1885 the counties of Surrey, Middlesex etc basically carried up to the walls of the City of London? The point I'm trying to get across is that you need to have a similar eye to both cities or both large metropolitan areas if you like.

So you dont doubt that greater Manchester is in fact not a city?

summerskin

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

So you dont doubt that greater Manchester is in fact not a city?

Of course it's not a city, it's effectively a county. That's where the difference lies with Dublin, that Dublin includes Meath, Wexford and Kildare in it's population count. That would be like Manchester Metropolitan District including South West Lancashire in it's figures.

Ms.M

I was raised in a mixed-marriage family. My Ma a jackeen, my Dad a culchie...
Wooly geansaí and adidas tracky bottoms = ridicule

My childhood was tough.

Biggins

Medusa22 wrote: »

What do you consider a 'culchie' to be?

My mother in law.
A right one!

RobbieTheRobber

summerskin wrote: »

Of course it's not a city, it's effectively a county. That's where the difference lies with Dublin, that Dublin includes Meath, Wexford and Kildare in it's population count. That would be like Manchester Metropolitan District including South West Lancashire in it's figures.

I think that was someone using the greater dublin area population becasue someone had used the greater manchester area population.

Which lead to the reason why i was trying to distinguish the actual City(Large or important town) of Manchester from this greater Manchester area so a proper comparision could be done with Dublin.
The population of Dublin city as oppossed to dublin county is 527,612 according to wiki.

token101

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

People who wear their county jersey when they go abroad to identify themselves to fellow boggers and to let the natives know that they are Irish and "great craic".

Their main topic of conversation will be "What pubs are showing the match ?"

From my experience, Cork people and Dubs do this more than anyone.

Marcusm

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

So you dont doubt that greater Manchester is in fact not a city?

City status in the UK is a legal concept; Manchester has had that status since the 1850s but the area covered by the city status has a population of approx 500,000 hence what you might regard as my pedantic approach. If you want to regard "Greater Manchester" as a city, nothing will stop you but a comparison with " London" would be with Greater London. The metro area of Manchester also includes a number of other boroughs/towns which have sought city status - Salford successfully. I seek not to tell you which definition of city you should use, I was merely pointing out an inconsistency.