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Michaela McAreavey trial accused 'not guilty'

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    #152
    casio4
    Registered Users Posts: 20,300 ✭✭✭✭casio4


    There was a third man accused with them who later became a witness why was that?


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    #153
    drumm23
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭drumm23


    InchicoreDude wrote: »
    That is different.

    In that case, the people who did the crime had been caught and admitted the crime.

    You what?
    They were freed on the failure of the forensic evidence to stand up to any sort of rigorous critique along with -importantly when discussing the McAreavey trial- the complete corruption of the investigating Police squad.


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    #154
    Boognish
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Boognish


    Show Time wrote: »
    The lads got away with murder because the cops fcuked up royally and they need to protect the one thing the island is good for which is fleecing people on holidays. Now they have a free hand to murder the tourist as well thanks to the events of today.

    So yep it makes it an island full of savages in my book.

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    #155
    Fluffycloud
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭Fluffycloud


    Stupid thing to say! Generalising ..... Sweeping statement!


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    #156
    waterdale35
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭waterdale35


    Bart Simpson may as well been arrested as well there so corrupt


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    #157
    jesus_thats_gre
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    davet82 wrote: »
    should be a boycott of these islands until the McAreaveys get justice, either get the right people or do their jobs!

    It's a ****ing country. It isn't a playground for Western tourists.

    These things happen everywhere.


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    #158
    drumm23
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭drumm23


    Show Time wrote: »
    The lads got away with murder because the cops fcuked up royally and they need to protect the one thing the island is good for which is fleecing people on holidays. Now they have a free hand to murder the tourist as well thanks to the events of today.

    So yep it makes it an island full of savages in my book.

    :D
    Follow the trial much?

    Nah.


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    #159
    midlandsmissus
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    I think one of the hotel workers did it, and the other didn't do anything, and there is no evidence to determine which one did it of the two.

    Who else could it have been? What motive would anyone else have.

    Only motives seem to be: hotel workers caught on the rob, panicked, tried to stop her screaming, didn't mean to kill her.


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    #160
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    casio4 wrote: »
    There was a third man accused with them who later became a witness why was that?

    They offered him immunity from prosecution if he testified against the two men.


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    #161
    okedoke
    Registered Users Posts: 924 ✭✭✭okedoke


    even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict


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    #162
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    okedoke wrote: »
    even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict

    What? you think they should convict someone just to make a family happy?
    No family would want this.

    edit, maybe I'm reading that wrong.


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    #163
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    okedoke wrote: »
    even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict

    Are you suggesting that they should have been found guilty regardless of the lack of evidence against them? If were a member of the family I wouldn't see the conviction of two innocent men as closure.


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    #164
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ellis Dee wrote: »
    Good job the German media didn't adopt the same attitude about Ireland after a young German tourist was murdered and another left for dead by several Dublin scumbags in the Phoenix Park in 1991.

    The survivor identified one of the suspects in a line-up, but his trial collapsed after a few minutes because:

    1. The Gardai had had only six men in the line-up, when there are supposed to be eight. You'd think the yobs could count to eight; after all, they have that many fingers plus the thumbs.:rolleyes:

    2. The Gardai had interrogated the suspect without a break for longer than the guidelines allow and had not allowed him to shave or spruce himself up before putting him in the line-up. It beggars belief that they didn't see that the defence counsel would immediately pounce on that, as is his right, and the testimony of the witness who identified the accused as the principal assailant was ruled inadmissible.

    Far too often, they seem to think that bully boy tactics are more effective than slowly, slowly catchey monkey.:rolleyes:

    So don't let's get too self-righteous about that joke of a police force in Mauritius and their brutality.:(

    I really feel for the Harte and McAreavey families, but convicting the wrong people could hardly mean closure for them, either. The fact is, we just don't know whether a grave miscarriage of justice has been avoided or two murderers have gotten away with it. Let's hope the truth eventually emerges.:cool:
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    Was that the one where they dropped a concrete block on yer mans head when he was asleep?


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    #165
    drumm23
    Registered Users Posts: 310 ✭✭drumm23


    okedoke wrote: »
    even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict

    "technically innocent"....

    :confused::D


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    #166
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    okedoke wrote: »
    even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict
    Ah you're right, the people of Guildford and Birmingham would rest easier tonight with those ten paddies still under lock and key. Hope you never get into a position of power in Ireland.


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    #167
    bp1989
    Registered Users Posts: 248 ✭✭bp1989


    okedoke wrote: »
    even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict

    And put two innocent men in prison?! How can you justify that?!!


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    #168
    okedoke
    Registered Users Posts: 924 ✭✭✭okedoke


    If you were in the Harte's situation you would look at it differently - you would want someone to be punished


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    #169
    Laois_Man
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    InchicoreDude wrote: »
    That is different.

    In that case, the people who did the crime had been caught and admitted the crime. Justice [as much as could be done] had been achieved for those victims.

    That is not true

    No other people were ever convicted of the Birmingham bombings.

    As recently as this past April, one of the six, Paddy Hill, was still campaigning for justice and the convictions of those responsible (who he claims are known to himself and authoraties)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/10207331


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    #170
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    okedoke wrote: »
    If you were in the Harte's situation you would look at it differently - you would want someone to be punished

    Yes, the guilty.


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    #171
    hondasam
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    okedoke wrote: »
    If you were in the Harte's situation you would look at it differently - you would want someone to be punished

    Yes but not an innocent person just to make themselves feel better.
    I would want the guilty person punished and would do what ever I could to make it happen.


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    #172
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    That is not true

    No other people were ever convicted of the Birmingham bombings.

    He didn't say they were convicted. He said they were caught and admitted the bombings, which is true. It was the Balcombe street lot.


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    #173
    bp1989
    Registered Users Posts: 248 ✭✭bp1989


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yes, the guilty.

    +1


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    #174
    Boognish
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Boognish


    "even if the 2 locals were technically innocent it would have been nice for the Harte's to get closure with a guilty verdict"

    disgusting comment

    shouldn't be surprised though


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    #175
    steelcityblues
    Registered Users Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    The media will go into 'evil, morally bankrupt foreigners' mode now, no doubt.


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    #176
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    okedoke wrote: »
    If you were in the Harte's situation you would look at it differently - you would want someone to be punished

    We're not in their position and I doubt anybody decent would want to see the innocent punished for a heinous crime.
    I'd be sick to my back teeth of the keystone cops and a shoddy trial that was allowed turn into a circus.


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    #177
    okedoke
    Registered Users Posts: 924 ✭✭✭okedoke


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yes, the guilty.

    Sometimes the guilty can't be found and you make do with what's in front of you.


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    #178
    Boognish
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Boognish


    nevermind, you trolled me


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    #179
    who_me
    Registered Users Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    LordSmeg wrote: »
    Not about throwing stones, you cant ignore something like this on the basis we fcuked up in the past, the French state and police didnt throw their hands up and keep their mouths shut with that mess and we shouldnt do it with this.

    It has to be dealt with as an isolated incident and looked at with the view of what the Irish state can do to get justice for the murder of an Irish citizen.

    Oh, it assuredly was a monumental mess - as was the du Plantier case - and I'm not suggesting we ignore it or sweep it under the carpet.

    But, it happens. I wouldn't advise against travelling to Mauritius any more than I'd advise against travelling to Ireland, based on these investigations/court cases.


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    #180
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    okedoke wrote: »
    Sometimes the guilty can't be found and you make do with what's in front of you.

    Troll alert.


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    #181
    Laois_Man
    Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Nodin wrote: »
    He didn't say they were convicted. He said they were caught and admitted the bombings, which is true. It was the Balcombe street lot.

    He also said justice had been done as much as it could have been!

    Althought I thought the Balcombe Street Gang admitted responsibility for the Guilford bombings - Not Birmingham?


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