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Michaela McAreavey trial accused 'not guilty'

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18703365

    A terrible time for the families involved.

    well i saw that coming, that place is as corrupt as they come.

    i mean, she hardly went into her hotel that evening and threw her self into the bath and strangled herself.

    no dna found.. what a load of C0ck

    with a capital C.

    I think them guys were guilty as sin, they prob earn .01 dollars an hour and saw a quick opportunity to steal some rich farang cash.

    they panicked and killed her. Them people are not the brightest going.


  • Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sandmanporto


    flanzer wrote: »
    That's Mauritius off 'my places to visit'.

    The whole judicial system seemed to be modelled on the Irish one

    I agree with you and I will be the same. However a lot of PC idiots think that it's stupid that you would not visit there because of this! Well I doubt they would say that if it was their family or friend murdered there.
    I heard a story today that Egypt is a very dangerous country to visit. A tourist was sleeping in the room and some guy creeped up on his cut his throat and ran away with his wallet! Some countries are just too dangerous to visit!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Seasoft wrote: »
    You clearly witnessed the crime, attended the whole trial, and know more than anyone else. And you don't believe in the justice system. They two defendants should sue you for libel.
    You may not like the verdict but that does not allow you to describe those aquited as murderers.


    well lets see now, either that or she killed herself.

    and other potential killers in the hotel. hardly other honeymooners.

    the whole trial was corrupt as f**k.

    I hope that John guy doesn't watch law abiding citizen over the weekend......

    them f**kers are prime candidates for some citizen treatment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    I agree with you and I will be the same. However a lot of PC idiots think that it's stupid that you would not visit there because of this! Well I doubt they would say that if it was their family or friend murdered there.
    I heard a story today that Egypt is a very dangerous country to visit. A tourist was sleeping in the room and some guy creeped up on his cut his throat and ran away with his wallet! Some countries are just too dangerous to visit!

    And Mauritius isn't one of them. Crime levels generally are very low.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    I cant help feeling a little nauseous when I visit Trip Advisor and read of the now Lux hotel being described as a paradise by guests. Typing in the hotels name to google brings up nothing but positive reviews. Changing it's name from Legends to Lux was cynical. That hotel should be out of business, it's staff were involved in her murder. It's head security personnel were uncooperative with police in handing over room key logs.

    I wonder how the couples who are now staying in the room where Michaela was murdered would feel.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Are all members of the Mauritian justice system numpties or do they just have a really bad grasp of the English language.. ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    well lets see now, either that or she killed herself.

    and other potential killers in the hotel. hardly other honeymooners.

    the whole trial was corrupt as f**k.

    I hope that John guy doesn't watch law abiding citizen over the weekend......

    them f**kers are prime candidates for some citizen treatment.

    If the trial was corrupt they would have found them guilty no matter what to save face in front of the international media. The men who stood trial are not men of power or means, nobody was bribing the jury on their behalf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Fentdog84 wrote: »
    He pointed his finger in a different direction as he spoke. Similiar to when Bill Clinton did when he said 'I didnt not have sexual relations with that lady''. Theres a documentary on youtube about that, check it out.

    He pointed his finger to the sky as he spoke about God, a pretty common piece of body language when people reference that deity. .:confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    If the trial was corrupt they would have found them guilty no matter what to save face in front of the international media. The men who stood trial are not men of power or means, nobody was bribing the jury on their behalf.


    you be surprised what corrupt police and powerful hotel owners can do nowadays.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 558 ✭✭✭OurLadyofKnock


    What a joke, clearly the husband didnt do it


    How do you know for sure?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    they should have brought top notch DNA officials and lab specialists down there from the uk and not rely on being dicked about by Mauritius nobheads.

    but sadly, all meangiful dna samples would have been gone by a day i would imagine. Them two mopes were probably busy with dettol and bleach for the two days after the murder.


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭the bolt


    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    I read somewhere recently, and it was probably to do with the du Plantier case, that French law is different to most countries in that they can investigate crimes against any French citizen no matter where in the world it happens. I'd assume this is not a part of Irish law.
    i wonder would that include ships getting blown up in international waters:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,991 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    This whole thing sucks - feel really bad for her family and her husband he's been put through enough. The trail may have been a farce at times but it's not the court that is at fault here they did their job and reached what it probably the correct verdict.

    There must have been other theiving going on in the hotel, if the two guys had done it they they would have been able to show they had stolen for other guests in the past. Blame the police, they picked them as probably did it and a confession was beaten out of one of them implicating the other.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I find the defence brief's constant references to the Birmingham Six and Guilford extremely patronizing... The celebrations are also extremely distasteful... "Warm and friendly people" ?? Shower of bast*rds more like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    I find the defence brief's constant references to the Birmingham Six and Guilford extremely patronizing... The celebrations are also extremely distasteful... "Warm and friendly people" ?? Shower of bast*rds more like.

    If it was your family who was accused of a murder they did not commit would you not celebrate if they were innocent?
    While they might be distasteful to us it's a normal reaction imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭the bolt


    Nodin wrote: »
    He didn't say they were convicted. He said they were caught and admitted the bombings, which is true. It was the Balcombe street lot.
    or some of the balcome street lot and some others who were known to the uk police for years,long before the B6 were freed.likewise with the guildford 4 my understanding of it is that the uk police had confessions years before but didnt believe them and said they were misinformation by the ira .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Motorist


    $hithole of a country. One place I'll never visit.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 307 ✭✭CodyJarrett


    Ann22 wrote: »
    Doc on now on Rte1 about the case.

    Bollocko was on the box? No way. Hope you Sky plus'd it for us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Horrible for the family. But to be honest, I think the Mauritius authoitorities handled the whole thing wrong. It seems in an attempt to prevent their image being tarnished, they picked up to lads who where in the wrong place at the wrong time, tried to pin it on them, or picked up the two right lads but failed to preserve the scene, and had no real evidence against them.

    With the professional forensics expert from the UK saying their was no evidence, their own forensics giving the same result, and the behavior of the defence, it was nearly clear from an early stage that they were going to be cleared.

    Hopefully the case will be reopened with co-operation from the PSNI to find out what really happened that day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭tigger123


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Horrible for the family. But to be honest, I think the Mauritius authoitorities handled the whole thing wrong. It seems in an attempt to prevent their image being tarnished, they picked up to lads who where in the wrong place at the wrong time, tried to pin it on them, or picked up the two right lads but failed to preserve the scene, and had no real evidence against them.

    With the professional forensics expert from the UK saying their was no evidence, their own forensics giving the same result, and the behavior of the defence, it was nearly clear from an early stage that they were going to be cleared.

    Hopefully the case will be reopened with co-operation from the PSNI to find out what really happened that day.

    I'm asking a genuine question here, but how do the PSNI come into it? Do they have any authority or influence over the investigation of a crime in Mauritius?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Its hard to see where follow investigations will approach from, I presume they'll look at the husband again but I can't see anybody ever being convicted of this unless concrete evidence comes to light.


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭the bolt


    hondasam wrote: »
    I remember thinking the very same thing when I seen Ian Huntley on the news the evening Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman went missing.
    We all get our own suspicions when we watch someone talk so I don't think it was a stupid post.
    can you give us the name of any more people that you have seen on tv who are guilty,ASG could do with you ,might set you up in templemore so you could teach this new tool to many more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    the bolt wrote: »
    can you give us the name of any more people that you have seen on tv who are guilty,ASG could do with you ,might set you up in templemore so you could teach this new tool to many more.

    ASG or AGS ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Fentdog84


    Having watched the documentary on rte it just seemed to me like the whole thing was a big farce, like a Kangaroo court, with small time lawyers and incompetents who had all their priorities wrong. sad outcome for the McAreavy & harte families.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    tigger123 wrote: »
    I'm asking a genuine question here, but how do the PSNI come into it? Do they have any authority or influence over the investigation of a crime in Mauritius?

    I suppose considering that she was a resident or from NI, they might have an interest from that point of view. Whilst they may not have the autority or the duristriction to investigate, they might be able to offer their expertise.
    Its hard to see where follow investigations will approach from, I presume they'll look at the husband again but I can't see anybody ever being convicted of this unless concrete evidence comes to light.

    Well the defense at one point seemed to be trying their best to put some kind of blame on him.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    You could make certain allowances for cultural differences etc., but this was a complete disgraceful farce from start to finish. Compare and contrast this train-wreck of a legal and judicial process to the way the tragic death and investigation into that recent Irish girl's murder in Japan was so efficiently handled by the Japanese authorities.


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭the bolt


    hondasam wrote: »
    ASG or AGS ?
    im sure you know which you being as clever as you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 349 ✭✭jibber5000


    I always wondered in this case why the defense focused so much of their time placing doubt on John, instead of attempting to claim that it could have been a number of other hotel employees, a scenario that would have been far more likely..
    Also did anyone see Vincent Browne just there.in an Irish times opinion article a few weeks ago he compared michaela to z list celebrities whom the media were obsessed over which I feel was in bad taste and also completely untrue


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    You could make certain allowances for cultural differences etc., but this was a complete disgraceful farce from start to finish. Compare and contrast this train-wreck of a legal and judicial process to the way the tragic death and investigation into that recent Irish girl's murder in Japan was so efficiently handled by the Japanese authorities.


    True, but Japan is an entirely different country, that place is borderline third world, only the hotels and honeymooners keep it afloat.

    How there was no dna evidence is practically a LOL in itself.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,861 ✭✭✭KH25


    This whole case was handled terribly and its an awful shame that this woman was murdered. Hopefully her real killers will be brought to justice.

    As an aside, look at the Mauritius facebook page. The majority of posts on it tonight are downright embarrassing.


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