Homeland - Season 2 [Showtime - US] **Spoilers!**

had thought that season 2 would end up being rubbish but pleasantly surprised so far. However, the first 3 episodes of the new season have been at breakneck speed - I fear that it can't continue like that - and it can't really or it would become too unbelievable. I think that this is a ploy to ensure viewer numbers - and it has no doubt worked - where will it go from here though...?

PhiloCypher

Anybody else as impressed as i was with Brody's improvised wheel jack .

Very McGyveresque.

FloatingVoter

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Anybody else as impressed as i was with Brody's improvised wheel jack .

Very McGyveresque.

I actually saw my dad do that trick in the wilds of Mayo many years back. He didn't have to address the VP afterwards though. And no, he didn't break a guys neck on the way home.

The Gnome

FloatingVoter wrote: »

And no, he didn't break a guys neck on the way home.

That's exactly what a sleeper agent would say...:D

PhiloCypher

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Anybody else as impressed as i was with Brody's improvised wheel jack .

Very McGyveresque.

would probably feck up the underside of the car though.

Jem123

I have a bad feeling about Estes. Hope he doesn't do away with the chip :rolleyes:

evil_seed

CRM Ireland wrote: »

I thought the last episode was the most boring since Ive started watching. The acting is pretty awesome though, and Carrie plays the nutjob brilliantly. She looks so unstable, very very convincing.

It's bi-polar disorder, not nut job. Just thought I'd clear that up

ejmaztec

Jem123 wrote: »

I have a bad feeling about Estes. Hope he doesn't do away with the chip :rolleyes:

Wasn't it a memory card? Saul's probably got multiple copies of it now, if the incident at Beirut airport is anything to go by.

FloatingVoter

ejmaztec wrote: »

Wasn't it a memory card? Saul's probably got multiple copies of it now, if the incident at Beirut airport is anything to go by.

Yup, I'm sure the first thing he did on landing stateside was make at least one copy for his "...in the event of my untimely death" safety deposit box.

naughto

iam gland nutjob sorry carrie found out that she was right.
i said it back in season 1 that there boss(cant think of his name) the black guy sorry if i offend any one is the mole there is just some thing not right with him.

don ramo

naughto wrote: »

i said it back in season 1 that there boss(cant think of his name) the black guy sorry if i offend any one is the mole there is just some thing not right with him.

a lot of people are of that opinion, but the main sticking point with that theory is, if estes is the mole then why did brody have to break into his safe to get the drone file, and why didnt estes tell nazir about the strike team coming for him in lebanon, he just got out of there on time,

its not estes but its deffinately someone in his office,

cathos

The one thing that annoyed me about last nights episode was that Brody broke the Tailors neck instead of just dropping the call with his wife. Very disappointed with him for killing the guy so easily when it wasn't necessary!! Did anyone watch the trailer for next week? I did so can see where the storyline is heading - will make it very exciting

ejmaztec

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Yup, I'm sure the first thing he did on landing stateside was make at least one copy for his "...in the event of my untimely death" safety deposit box.

Rule No. 1 in the Spy rule book Trust no-one, not even yourself.

CivilServant

ejmaztec wrote: »

Wasn't it a memory card? Saul's probably got multiple copies of it now, if the incident at Beirut airport is anything to go by.

He should upload to iCloud so he can view it on all his iDevices.

FloatingVoter

CivilServant wrote: »

He should upload to iCloud so he can view it on all his iDevices.

He should upload to iCloud so we can view it on all our iDevices. Was that what you meant ?:)

CivilServant

FloatingVoter wrote: »

He should upload to iCloud so we can view it on all our iDevices. Was that what you meant ?:)

No, but that'll work too.

Corkfeen

That opening initially enraged me, I momentarily thought they were committing a massive copout where Saul would be the only one who'd see the video. To give credit to them they didn't although I was thinking, couldn't Saul have saved it to his dropbox account instead of a hidden latch.

Dave!

Ha modern technology ruins classically suspenseful situations! Lost in the woods? Just take out your phone and open Google Maps, doy!

FairytaleGirl

The mole is Danny. Clear as day to me!! Found this whole episode necessary, basically Carrie knows she was right..yay!

LionelNashe

don ramo wrote: »

a lot of people are of that opinion, but the main sticking point with that theory is, if estes is the mole then why did brody have to break into his safe to get the drone file

Maybe so that Nasir could test Brody and see if he would play ball. It Estes is working with Nasir it would explain how yer woman had Estes's safe combination.

michaelduignan

Dave! wrote: »

Ha modern technology ruins classically suspenseful situations! Lost in the woods? Just take out your phone and open Google Maps, doy!

Brody knew where he was...just said he was lost no?

Dave!

Ahh yeah I wasn't referring to Homeland there, it's just a common scenario in TV/film! Sorry!

wow sierra

Dave! wrote: »

Ha modern technology ruins classically suspenseful situations! Lost in the woods? Just take out your phone and open Google Maps, doy!

Ah yeah but when you are lost in the woods in movieland your mobile is either ringing back in your flat where they are looking for you - or else your battery is dead (pretty believable if its an iPhone;))

gnfnrhead

Just once you dont use Apple Maps :pac:

irish son

cathos wrote: »

The one thing that annoyed me about last nights episode was that Brody broke the Tailors neck instead of just dropping the call with his wife. Very disappointed with him for killing the guy so easily when it wasn't necessary!! Did anyone watch the trailer for next week? I did so can see where the storyline is heading - will make it very exciting

He was more than likely going to be killed anyway so Brody probably just thought it was the easier option rather than risking being caught with him in his car.

dloob

irish son wrote: »

He was more than likely going to be killed anyway so Brody probably just thought it was the easier option rather than risking being caught with him in his car.

Yes probably, remember the airport couple's "safe house" after they were exposed.

irish son

FairytaleGirl wrote: »

The mole is Danny. Clear as day to me!! Found this whole episode necessary, basically Carrie knows she was right..yay!

Have to agree with you, if there is a mole its more than likely him, mostly because his scenes and his character so far are pointless so there must be a reason for showing him often.

Ill be very disapointed if it turns out Estes was a mole, just because his actions so far don't add up to this. For example in episode 2 of this season he gave Saul the power to decide if they should send in ground forces to try kill Nazir, he could have easily have said no on the grounds of Carrie's source not being reliable and it being a trap. Only for Brody sending the text Nazir would now be dead.

Cork boy 55

So that's how you change a Tyre without a jack

Television it fantastic.

Blazer

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Yup, I'm sure the first thing he did on landing stateside was make at least one copy for his "...in the event of my untimely death" safety deposit box.

I'm betting he didn't.
Knowing TV he'll probably be ambushed by sleeper agents on his trip back to the CIA , die and lose the card.
Carrie then is the only one who knows about the SD card and no one's going to believe her.

Cartman78

All Saul had to do was ring the CIA/FBI/local Garda station and tell them to arrest Brody....simples! Mystery solved, series over.

Was half-expecting the memory card to explode or become corrupted in Carrie's laptop but there's obviously a mole or some other 24-esque bullsh1t plot driver lurking in the background to keep things shuttling along for another few dozen episodes.

Will keep watching though as despite everything I said it's quite entertaining and Clare Danes is fab.

Newaglish

I thought it was slightly ludicrous that a US congressman could strip to the waist and powerhose himself at a car wash without drawing a crowd of onlookers and reporters but I do think in general the show is really picking up and I'm quite enjoying it!

Also, any ideas on who the mole is? I suspect Danny, partly because if I remember correctly, he was involved initially in marking off Faizel (spelling) as unimportant, plus he seems to pop up everywhere without being necessary to the storyline.

the_monkey

Filler episode, exact same ending as last week ....

DeepBlue

Newaglish wrote: »

I thought it was slightly ludicrous that a US congressman could strip to the waist and powerhose himself at a car wash without drawing a crowd of onlookers and reporters but I do think in general the show is really picking up and I'm quite enjoying it!

Yes, but it's even more ludicrous that Brody had to be the one that collected the tailor. Surely there's loads of people that could do that.
But yeah, the show would be fairly boring if they stuck to what's plausible and, in fairness, they're keeping things moving at a fair lick so that you don't quite dwell on the rather silly aspects like how it seemed to take weeks for Saul to get back from Beirut.

the_monkey

CRM Ireland wrote: »

I thought the last episode was the most boring since Ive started watching. The acting is pretty awesome though, and Carrie plays the nutjob brilliantly. She looks so unstable, very very convincing.

Even though a few things happened, I found that most of the episode just bored me. Thankfully it finished on a high, so I look forward to seeing how on earth they are going to play this one out.

Is there any particular reason why Season 2 is being aired in the EU so close to the US airing? Normally a year behind. Id like to save my download limit with all these awesome HD torrents, but even a few days is too long to wait!

Limit ??

2012 and ISP's still have limits ???

jesus ... I download about 100 gig a month..

mountain

Anyone know what happened Brody's son, i dont think we have seen him at all this series, just his daughter.

the_monkey

mountain wrote: »

Anyone know what happened Brody's son, i dont think we have seen him at all this series, just his daughter.

Guess he looks too grown up, I think we saw him once ..

Cartman78

DeepBlue wrote: »

Yes, but it's even more ludicrous that Brody had to be the one that collected the tailor. Surely there's loads of people that could do that.
But yeah, the show would be fairly boring if they stuck to what's plausible and, in fairness, they're keeping things moving at a fair lick so that you don't quite dwell on the rather silly aspects like how it seemed to take weeks for Saul to get back from Beirut.

Yep...Saul definitely took the scenic route back from the Middle East. it's entertaining hokum but don't think about it too much or your head will be wrecked.

24 (esp. in latter series) was full or dumb plot holes that you could drive a fleet of buses through. I hope this doesn't go the same way tbh...there's a decent programme in there somewhere but they'll probably balls it all up with moles popping up all over the place and key witnesses/evidence being killed/destroyed at the last minute

Basq

mountain wrote: »

Anyone know what happened Brody's son, i dont think we have seen him at all this series, just his daughter.

Wasn't there some quip made about his Facebook friends... then he disappeared!

mel.b

CRM Ireland wrote: »

Is there any particular reason why Season 2 is being aired in the EU so close to the US airing? Normally a year behind. Id like to save my download limit with all these awesome HD torrents, but even a few days is too long to wait!

Not quite sure why or what you are complaining about. If the network took the regular path and waited months (ala Revenge, greys etc) then you'd still have to download It. Personally i think it is great RTE have fast tracked it and i can wait 2 days to see it. In Oz, they are two weeks behind and the network is complaining they have lost 500,000 viwers....ummm i wonder why.

the_monkey wrote: »

Limit ??

2012 and ISP's still have limits ???

jesus ... I download about 100 gig a month..

Some of us are still on things like mobile broadband. I only get 15g a month until my contract expires at least the speed is good for downloading

MagicMarker

I think Brody's son is played by a different actor this season too?

Jax Teller

MagicMarker wrote: »

I think Brody's son is played by a different actor this season too?

Don't think so . He just got bigger and older if my memory serves me right ?

don ramo

LionelNashe wrote: »

Maybe so that Nasir could test Brody and see if he would play ball. It Estes is working with Nasir it would explain how yer woman had Estes's safe combination.

he already tested him by asking him to break into the safe, and also he was seconds away from getting his head blown off, what if brody wasnt asked to come into the room where the operation was being broadcast live,

i cant see it being estes,

Jax Teller wrote: »

Don't think so . He just got bigger and older if my memory serves me right ?

this season has jumped forward a few months, hes about 12-13 in the show and in real life, so i dont see any reason for the recast, kids have growth spurts all the time, he couldnt have jump so dramatically that he would have to be recast,

also it says on his IMDB page hes still playing that role
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2093138/

Jax Teller

don ramo wrote: »

h



this season has jumped forward a few months, hes about 12-13 in the show and in real life, so i dont see any reason for the recast, kids have growth spurts all the time, he couldnt have jump so dramatically that he would have to be recast,

also it says on his IMDB page hes still playing that role
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2093138/

Its still him yeah but hes grown a lot imo . Look at this picture he looks way older in that . That's from ep 1 season 2 .

AnonoBoy

Nothing to do with the son looking older - I'd say they've just kept him out of it because there's no need for him. Why stick him in scenes just to stand there like a spare part when he's not needed?

don ramo

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Nothing to do with the son looking older - I'd say they've just kept him out of it because there's no need for him. Why stick him in scenes just to stand there like a spare part when he's not needed?

yeah even last year he just seemed to hang around, maybe he might do more is season 4 when hes about 15-16 and his father is VP:D

michaelduignan

don ramo wrote: »

yeah even last year he just seemed to hang around, maybe he might do more is season 4 when hes about 15-16 and his father is VP:D

Yeah and Dana is working for Abu Nazir too!

augustus gloop

mountain wrote: »

Anyone know what happened Brody's son, i dont think we have seen him at all this series, just his daughter.

he is about 12 now right??? when i was 12 i spent alot of time in my room:D

don ramo

nice to see someone show how similar carrie matheson in homeland and annie walker from covert affairs are :D

http://www.buddytv.com/slideshows/covert-affairs/dynamic-cia-women-annie-of-covert-affairs-and-carrie-of-homeland-43379.aspx

Lingua Franca

I'm loving this series. I quite like the attention to detail too.

Like Brody's visible boner when he pulled away from his wife when Dana walked in.

And Jessica wearing the same jacket with distressed trim for two posh events. Seeing a woman in the same item of clothing twice is very rare on US tv shows but if you have a nice outfit and you're not made of money of course you'd get more than one wear out of it.

Dave!

Lingua Franca wrote: »

I'm loving this series. I quite like the attention to detail too.

Like Brody's visible boner when he pulled away from his wife when Dana walked in.

And Jessica wearing the same jacket with distressed trim for two posh events. Seeing a woman in the same item of clothing twice is very rare on US tv shows but if you have a nice outfit and you're not made of money of course you'd get more than one wear out of it.

Noticed that too, didn't wanna lower the tone by bringing it up though

I'd say it was more of a semi tbh