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Obese to FIT (22stone +)
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BlueIsland wrote: »You go out of your way to be defensive about slimfast? Obviously this is a loaded quesiton but being honest what are the reasons you think you will get stick over it?
I wouldn't say I'm being defensive or really going out of my way. Maybe I am. I was trying to pre-empt a response which I presumed I'd get. When I was researching possible options online any time I saw anyone mention that they were considering Slimfast or any other meal replacement programme (or even any sort of diet which could be described as a "fad") they'd typically be shouted down by people making (valid) points about the importance of balanced diets and long-term lifestyle changes which won't result in the weight going straight back on when you stop.
The thing is, I get the argument, I just think that these people underestimate a few points. Firstly the fact that Slimfast emphasises the importance of both calorie control and exercise in losing weight and then keeping the weight of, secondly that in order to hit the calorie limits for dinner and snacks you have to learn and understand which foods have high number of calories and to introduce your body to smaller portion sizes. And thirdly, I had 12 years of sandwiches, rolls and pasta for lunches at work but these two months on a meal bar at lunch have been tastier, more filling and cheaper than anything I've been used to. I'm not seeing it necessarily as a short term thing. I don't really see any need to go back onto a 'normal' lunch ever again, tbh.
I'm sounding defensive again, aren't I?
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This is a great thread. Just read all the way through.
Here's where I am. I've always been overweight. Tried to shift it loads of times but never had the motivation to carry through. Even today I'm not looking to really be 'slim' just to shift some weight. I'm 6'5 and my Doctor once told me that I should be looking at about 15st 7lbs as a target weight. I'd be happy to get within a stone of that really.
What's motivating myself now is something really quite pathetic. Ever since school I've always known one lad who was much heavier than me. But at the start of this year he started Lighter Life and as of yesterday has now gone over 15 stone in weight loss and is now about 12 stones. Now I'm not advocating Lighter Life as a weight loss technicque for anyone and I wouldn't do it myself but the point was that this lad, my friend, went out and did something about turning his life around. And now that I don't know any of my friends who are bigger than me anymore I guess I should be next.
I'm currently doing Slimfast. Now I'm sure that I'll get some stick for that but it's working for me at the moment. Firstly, I really like the milkshakes, secondly they've removed the hassle from breakfasts and lunch and thirdly they've made me concentrate my efforts on eating a decent, balanced, low-calorie main meal. So now I'm living on between 1,200 and 1,500 calories a day. I've pretty much eliminated bread, rice, cheese and fruit juice. Never really ate chocolate or cakes or anything liek that anyway I only drink water and a couple of cups of tea a day, I've swapped out semi-skimmed milk for skimmed milk (something I never thought I'd do!) and I only drink alcohol when I've a reason to drink alcohol as opposed to it's Friday so let's have a beer. I still eat more potatoes than I should and that's something I know I need to work on. I don't feel weak, I don't feel tired. I've found it all a bit... easy.
Where I'm struggling is exercise. I've started doing some jogging but I'm really bad at it and I'm terribly lazy. I know I need to get out there but my bed is so much more tempting on these cold mornings. I need to get a grip of myself there, I know. I've got an exercise bike at home although I find it hurts my knees. I think that's almost an excuse to myself so will try to use it at least once a week. I walk loads anyway to and from work and to and from town but after reading this thread I'm definitely going to up the walking from tonight.
I weighed a little under 20 stones when I started this about 7 weeks ago. I've no idea what I weigh today and no intention of checking. I'm more interested in how I look, how I feel and what clothes I can fit into now which I couldn't before. I can see I look a little better now than I did. Yesterday afternoon I saw myself in the mirror in the toilets at work and realised that my shirt collar button was done up. I never have it done up and a few weeks ago it would have irritated me to the point where I'd have undone it. But now I hadfn't noticed it so my collar size must have gone down. I've got a shirt at the back of my wardrobe which I really like but haven't been able to wear for a couple of years. I'm going out for some pre-birthday drinks on November 17th and am determined to be able to wear it that night. I'm going to Las Vegas on holiday in just over six months time and I want to be able to go over there in the best shape that I can be in.
I'm not sure what the point I'm making is. It's just nice to write it. I'm not advocating Slimfast and I know I'll need permanent lifestyle changes in the long run. I guess I'm just advocating whatever works for the individual at that point in their life.
nice work beefy, what ever your doing you've made a start
Now i'm no expert in this, and i might of lost weight now, but its been ten years in the planning.
I have done all of the plans, slim fast, lipotrim, the cabbage soup diet, and attended all of the classes over the years. Initial success followed by difficult results and then back to old habits. Now i suppose if you plan to drink slimfast for the rest of your life you''l be grand and you'll maintain your loss otherwise from my experience you'll soon be back at square one.
Now, you'll get a 1000 different plans from nice people here which will help you lose weight, but what people don't understand about geezers like us is the constant hunger (well defo me!!!) and its ok saying you need willpower, if only it was that easy.
What i can say about the primal/paleo diet that after the first weeks of headaches and change is that i never felt hungry. Honestly. Normally after a few weeks of any diet i'd be looking for excuses I struggled to find them with this. Have a look at it its initially tough but only as tough as drinking a shake.
Get yourself a tracking account on fit day or something similar and be totally honest with yourself, write everything you eat/drink into it. There is no magic solution, calories in have to be lower than calories out.
Exercise mate has to be something you enjoy or you wont stick with it. I got a punching bag, found a 30 min program and stuck at it, loved it
Once i got down to 18 stone i started the couch to 5km program and can now run for 30 mins, well jog...
Either way mate good luck with it and well done again for starting.0 -
nice work beefy, what ever your doing you've made a start
Now i'm no expert in this, and i might of lost weight now, but its been ten years in the planning.
I have done all of the plans, slim fast, lipotrim, the cabbage soup diet, and attended all of the classes over the years. Initial success followed by difficult results and then back to old habits. Now i suppose if you plan to drink slimfast for the rest of your life you''l be grand and you'll maintain your loss otherwise from my experience you'll soon be back at square one.
Now, you'll get a 1000 different plans from nice people here which will help you lose weight, but what people don't understand people about geezers like us is the constant hunger (well defo me!!!) and its ok saying you need willpower, if only it was that easy.
What i can say about the primal/paleo diet that after the first weeks of headaches and change is that i never felt hungry. Honestly. Normally after a few weeks of any diet i'd be looking for excuses I struggled to find them with this. Have a look at it its initially tough but only as tough as drinking a shake.
Get yourself a tracking account on fit day or something similar and be totally honest with yourself, write everything you eat/drink into it. There is no magic solution, calories in have to be lower than calories out.
Exercise mate has to be something you enjoy or you wont stick with it. I got a punching bag, found a 30 min program and stuck at it, loved it Once i got down to 18 stone i started the couch to 5km program and can now run for 30 mins, well jog...
Either way mate good luck with it and well done again for starting.
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Wanderer2010 wrote: »Brilliant thread, I loved reading the stories of how people are trying to better themselves and lose weight etc, plus I have even picked up a few tips.
Thing is though, I dont think one poster has mentioned feeling embarrassed or awkward taking a shower after their work-out, we are talking about people who are quite overweight, some of them 20+ stone, and even me, who is about 2 and a half stone overweight, would be very uncomfortable taking my clothes off and walking around when you are overweight, particularly in a crowded locker room and when most of them are toned and as fit as a fiddle. Now I know thats just my own experience and other people could regularly see many obese people stripping in the locker room but in my experience, the heavy people are actually the minority in the gym. I usually go between 1pm and 3pm so that may be why, but there are definitely a few nasty people who would snigger and look down on people with wobbly bits, and although its not an excuse not to go, it doesnt make the experience any easier. Im surprised more people dont have this issue, Im male by the way.
hey f@uck those people, gyms are full of all kinds of people, one of the instructors on here said that most people in his gym would feel like being abusive if they saw a big geezer in macdonalds but in the gym they think fair comment for having the balls and making an effort.
I could arrange for a couple of big geezers to escort you to the gym and assist those fools with a public apology :pac::pac:
seriously though, keep your head down, work hard and you will not be that person for much longer anyhow, if not find a new place with karate lessons 0 -
hey f@uck those people, gyms are full of all kinds of people, one of the instructors on here said that most people in his gym would feel like being abusive if they saw a big geezer in macdonalds but in the gym they think fair comment for having the balls and making an effort.
I could arrange for a couple of big geezers to escort you to the gym and assist those fools with a public apology :pac::pac:
seriously though, keep your head down, work hard and you will not be that person for much longer anyhow, if not find a new place with karate lessons
Yeah, two skills for the price of one, weight loss and karate! I guess my own experience is that my gym is about 85% slim, fit and toned people and the odd contingent of heavy and obese people, very rarely have I seen more than 3 obese people in the same session and Im just curious do other people notice a higher percentage? Its the same with all these statistics about how something like three quarters of Irish adults are overweight, and yet when I go into town each day I dont know where there are hiding, I see nothing but very fit and toned young people, maybe its to do with the rise in popularity of all these adventure races and marathons etc.
Im sure there are a huge amount of obese people out there but I personally dont see a lot of them in day to day life, including the gym.
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IS there anyone on this forum who does or in the past weight 20+ stone. I'm currently weighing about 21 stone and at my heaviest I was 23.5 stone. I'm 30 yr old male. Non smoker, very occasional drinker no more then 6 pints per month or every other month.
For past 6 weeks ive been training 3-4 days a week. workout plan is 65% weights 35% cardio. My eating has improved by 100% in terms of what i eat and when I eat but still needs some work. But after 6 weeks i don't feel like im getting anywhere, Also to point out i have given up with scales.....my reasons?
1. I wana go by my clothes
2. Go by my BMI
Also cause im lifting weights i do feel im putting on muscle so i find its not given me an accurate picture and I find when i focus on the number i lose faith.
I have alot of friends who are half my size and are very athletic, i have friends who take steroids and are huge in size and friends who wouldn't touch them and are in amazing shape and i have gotten advice from them all.
THE PROBLEM.....
Not one of the people i know has been in my position. Its very well for someone given u advice who has BMI of 15 or lower and never been classed as obese. So im dieing to talk to people who are in same both as me or were in past.
I have been on every diet in the world at least once, I aint looking for a diet im looking for help and few tips on a lifestyle change!
People who are/where clinically obese but have beaten the bulge!
Get on here and tell me your story how you do/did it, how you keep focus on the bad days and what worked for you.....
Need help, my head is wrecked at the mo feel im getting no where
I weighed 20.1 stone at my heaviest two and a half years ago.....I decided enough was enough and decided to analyse why I was this weight.....I thought the best course of action was to really tighten and tone my legs which worked and helped me drop upper body weight....my upper body was so heavy that my calfs were in constant pain.
I got down to 16 stone about a year ago and decidded i needed to lose more. I upped my activities, so I joined a gym and a soccer club, cycled to work and bought a dog so Id have a buddy to get me out of the house when no one was around. I didnt drastically change my diet but I eliminated milk from it and stopped picking at food or snacking so I have set meals. Currently Im 13.7 stone and feeling very fit....love handles gone and the slightest emergence of a six pack.....im 6 1 and carry the current weight ok but will continute to try and lose weight till i get down to 12....
I have been where you are, it sucks but subtle changes to your lifestyle does help immensly.....you can do it buddy!0 -
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For anyone looking for inspiration this is an article about a very good friend of mine Eric. I remember the first day I met him - depressed, unhealthy and at close to his heaviest bodyweight. This coming Monday he's running the Dublin marathon having dropped over 15 stone...
Check it out
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/new-man-i-was-35-stone-and-depressed-now-im-running-the-dublin-city-marathon-3269632.html0 -
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Really noticing it on my clothes at the moment. My old work trousers are comically large on me now - they were always generous with space, but now they look like something a clown would wear. My old belt, which was at the second notch, can now only attempt to keep my trousers in place as they invariably make their way down to my knees.
Its. F*cking. Great.
Having a bit more success with the ladies these days too
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Really noticing it on my clothes at the moment. My old work trousers are comically large on me now - they were always generous with space, but now they look like something a clown would wear. My old belt, which was at the second notch, can now only attempt to keep my trousers in place as they invariably make their way down to my knees.
Its. F*cking. Great.
Having a bit more success with the ladies these days too
BOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!0 -
Really noticing it on my clothes at the moment. My old work trousers are comically large on me now - they were always generous with space, but now they look like something a clown would wear. My old belt, which was at the second notch, can now only attempt to keep my trousers in place as they invariably make their way down to my knees.
Its. F*cking. Great.
Having a bit more success with the ladies these days too
I read somewhere that the ones ya meet in the gym will even helpfully tell ya right away whether they're single or not :pac:0 -
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The important thing I'm trying to remember at these times is that this is a long-term thing. Try to be as good as possible, but I've got to live my life so I just need to get back on the horse every time I fall off of it.
Nail on head!
I had been pre-empting Christmas. Trying to get down to a decent weight before Christmas before I take it easy over the holidays and don't worry too much about weight loss.
Although, having said that, I think i've finished my journey. Well, the first half of it!
Started off at 229lbs. Weighed in this morning at 189lbs.
My overall target was 182lbs but I was just guessing at that. Now that i'm 189lbs I think I want to concentrate on getting fit and strong.
I've started Couch to 5K and am on week 3. I am also begining a weight program this week.
You wouldn't believe the difference lads. Seriously, keep up the good work because I actually look at myself in the mirror now and I really like what I see.
And a new gym is opening right across from my work in the New Year so i'm gonna try get fitter and fitter instead of thinner and thinner 0 -
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