orange provocation

woodoo

kr7 wrote: »

Probably the most obnoxious, bitter, s**t stirring poster on boards.

100%

Chuck Stone

Fratton Fred wrote: »

no, I think they are a bunch of supremicists who enjoy provoking a reaction from people. Ignore them and they will get bored.

Dum-de-dum

Chuck Stone wrote: »

The ol' 'just ignore it' spiel, such naivety. It's impossible to ignore - what do you want people to do? Wear ear protectors, blindfolds and lock themselves in a darkened room for a month?

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kr7 wrote: »

Probably the most obnoxious, bitter, s**t stirring poster on boards.

Pick any thread on boards that he posts on and he's there trolling away to his little orange heart's content.

A real 'keyboard warrior' behind closed doors but in the open he keeps his head down, real low!

La-de-da

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Lads, Alastair has almost 3 times the number of posts of the next nearest person (144) and is still getting a kick out of this thread. I think it's time people stopped giving him the oxygen of attention.

TL;DR, Do not feed.

tayto lover

Great film out now.
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD (orange)MEN.

Happyman42

alastair wrote: »

Or black is white? You're talking through your hat. Like I say - sectarianism isn't monopolised by the OO, and we can't just wish away groups with sectarian outlooks, so best to focus on dealing with harmful acts rather than imagine you can coerce opinions - institutional or otherwise.

You keep up your little charade if that's how you get your buzz. I don't really care what an OO sympathiser thinks, I will continue to call on responsible, forward looking governments to see to it that this organisation is denied funding and support, until it joins the rest of us in the 21st century or disbands.

kr7

Happyman42 wrote: »

You keep up your little charade if that's how you get your buzz. I don't really care what an OO sympathiser thinks, I will continue to call on responsible, forward looking governments to see to it that this organisation is denied funding and support, until it joins the rest of us in the 21st century or disbands.

Here's alastair...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEsFtiruIok


Sorry Chuck, couldn't resist.:D

Fratton Fred

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Dum-de-dum

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La-de-da

Quite possibly the best thing you've ever said on boards.

Chuck Stone

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Quite possibly the best thing you've ever said on boards.

Is that supposed to make me cry or something?

Madam_X

Is that when someone squirts an orange in your eye? Because that provokes the **** out of me :mad:

alastair

kr7 wrote: »

A bit like alastair!

Have you noticed though in his posts how he never quite admits to being a member of/or very close to the OO.

I thought all OO members/associates were very proud, and rightly so, of who they are?

Maybe he doesn't want to be 'outed' down south.

Entertaining fantasy - well done on getting it wrong once again.

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

You keep up your little charade if that's how you get your buzz. I don't really care what an OO sympathiser thinks, I will continue to call on responsible, forward looking governments to see to it that this organisation is denied funding and support, until it joins the rest of us in the 21st century or disbands.

You'll be waiting.

DDC1990

I just laughed that the decendants of Planters were telling someone else to "Go Home"

kr7

alastair wrote: »

Entertaining fantasy - well done on getting it wrong once again.

Withdrew your name calling there, did ya?

Even fixing your own posts now.

Away up the road with ya.

Happyman42

alastair wrote: »

You'll be waiting.

I don't think so. They will become a bargaining chip pretty soon and you can now see circumstances where the normally reticent and supportive Unionists politicians will further distance themselves from the sectarianism. Political reality bites hard the bigot or those associated with it, they can't afford it anymore, because image is everything in normalised politics. They won't be able to keep their heads in the sand and claim cultural rights for what is essentially, organised bigotry, and SF will keep calling them on it. Which is good for building a normal society, sooner this blatant hate mongering is gone and it's perpertrators ostracised the better for us all.
Ebay will be awash with bowler hats, get yours on there as quick as you can Alastair, market forces and all that!

fasttalkerchat

kr7 wrote: »

Away up the road with ya.

Enough bigots "up the road" as it is!

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

I don't think so.

No evidence to support that belief.

Happyman42

alastair wrote: »

No evidence to support that belief.

Where have you seen overt sectarianism survive in normal society? They will be faced up to, sooner or later.

flanum

fair play to the lads having the balls to stand there filming that disgrace... hopefully it will stand as another nail in the coffin to the bigots.

kr7

flanum wrote: »

fair play to the lads having the balls to stand there filming that disgrace... hopefully it will stand as another nail in the coffin to the bigots.

Let's leave the bigots in the 6 counties, there's enough of then living covertly down here.

Happyman42

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

At today's Ulster Final in Clones, Gaels from Donegal and Down gathered for their traditional annual celebration of Irish culture. They burned Union Jacks in the centre of the field before the match and their president reiterated his condemnation of the PSNI and refused calls for an end to sectarianism.
He refused to comment on an earlier incident where St. Michaels Brass Band from Enniskillen marched to the Church of Ireland in the town and played 'Ooh Ah, Up The Ra' while the local Gardai looked on and refused to take action.

fasttalkerchat

Happyman42 wrote: »

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Last night there were shots fired at a GAA social club in Dungiven in Derry. Maybe this will stop these sectarian anti-English games!
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The Very Hungry Catterpillar

Happyman42 wrote: »

Where have you seen overt sectarianism survive in normal society? They will be faced up to, sooner or later.

Northern Ireland is a long way off becoming a "normal society"

fasttalkerchat

The Very Hungry Catterpillar wrote: »

Northern Ireland is a long way off becoming a "normal society"

The border can't survive forever.

Madam_X

Fratton Fred wrote: »

no, I think they are a bunch of supremicists who enjoy provoking a reaction from people. Ignore them and they will get bored.

No they might not.

Seems suspiciously like "Don't let yourself be bullied". Here's a better idea: make the bully ****ing stop.

fasttalkerchat

Onixx wrote: »

No they might not.

Seems suspiciously like "Don't let yourself be bullied". Here's a better idea: make the bully ****ing stop.

Exactly. Unionism hasn't died in over a decade or the current cycle and although OO numbers are dwindling, Loyalist Flute Bands and similar organisations take over almost every town in the 6 counties, a few in Donegal and soon to be Dublin City centre if we are to believe the reports.

Barricading roads, people out on their street and Direct Action are the only way to stamp it out.
And I'm not talking about gun men firing a few rounds in the direction of police long after the event; that will get us nowhere good either.

Our man in Havana

The border can't survive forever.

Oh but it will.

All the harden shinners won't want to give up their NHS and other benefits they get from the UK government. They won't give it up to join the republic.

Madam_X

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

and soon to be Dublin City centre if we are to believe the reports.

Irish people who suck up to hardline loyalists (whose culture is to hate them) and say sh1t like "The provos were as bad" (as if that justifies anything) are so pathetically spineless.

fasttalkerchat

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Oh but it will.

All the harden shinners won't want to give up their NHS and other benefits they get from the UK government. They won't give it up to join the republic.

My idea of 32 county socialist republic wouldn't have the bull**** FF/FG health system, pay €200 to die in an ambulance.

Happyman42

The Very Hungry Catterpillar wrote: »

Northern Ireland is a long way off becoming a "normal society"

It's a lot more normal than it was 10 years ago and a hell of a lot more normal than it was 20 years ago. Sectarianism is wrong and cannot be allowed to function as it will de-stabilise society.

The Very Hungry Catterpillar

Happyman42 wrote: »

It's a lot more normal than it was 10 years ago and a hell of a lot more normal than it was 20 years ago. Sectarianism is wrong and cannot be allowed to function as it will de-stabilise society.

I agree but it's early days and even though the daily bombings and shootings have stopped sectarianism is still thriving in some parts of NI (on both sides) and will continue to do so while those two muppets are the face of NI politics.

Happyman42

The Very Hungry Catterpillar wrote: »

I agree but it's early days and even though the daily bombings and shootings have stopped sectarianism is still thriving in some parts of NI (on both sides) and will continue to do so while those two muppets are the face of NI politics.

Without a doubt, but we have to take on official sectarianism first. Make that unacceptable then the message begins filtering down.

getz

The Very Hungry Catterpillar wrote: »

I agree but it's early days and even though the daily bombings and shootings have stopped sectarianism is still thriving in some parts of NI (on both sides) and will continue to do so while those two muppets are the face of NI politics.

sorry but the bombings and shooting havent stopped in northern ireland,be it no longer sectarian/bigited shootings,the biggest problems are in the republican areas,take derry/londonderry in todays news,[man shot in both legs][ bonfire an excuse for vandalism] community workers have claimed vandals have used a dispute over a bonfire as an excuse for three consecutive nights for violent disturbances in londonderry to attack the police . there has been over 20 pipe bomb incidents in derry alone this year,and over a dozen shootings,be it republican v republican whatever,yet the irish posties are more interested in a pipe band playing outside a church ,wake up and smell cofffee

Happyman42

getz wrote: »

sorry but the bombings and shooting havent stopped in northern ireland,be it no longer sectarian/bigited shootings,the biggest problems are in the republican areas,take derry/londonderry in todays news,[man shot in both legs][ bonfire an excuse for vandalism] community workers have claimed vandals have used a dispute over a bonfire as an excuse for three consecutive nights for violent disturbances in londonderry to attack the police . there has been over 20 pipe bomb incidents in derry alone this year,and over a dozen shootings,be it republican v republican whatever,yet the irish posties are more interested in a pipe band playing outside a church ,wake up and smell cofffee

In other words ....'Don't mind us over here in the corner, being sectarian thugs, have yis nothing better to be doing?'
:rolleyes:

getz

Happyman42 wrote: »

In other words ....'Don't mind us over here in the corner, being sectarian thugs, have yis nothing better to be doing?'
:rolleyes:

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/13/republican-vigilante-campaig... ]

Happyman42

getz wrote: »

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/may/13/republican-vigilante-campaig... hospital says over 85 shootings have taken place in derry over the last year.

and? :rolleyes:

Fuinseog

Onixx wrote: »

Irish people who suck up to hardline loyalists (whose culture is to hate them) and say sh1t like "The provos were as bad" (as if that justifies anything) are so pathetically spineless.

nordies have started to come shopping here because the atmosphere of hate is less strong. groups such as RSF and the Real IRA who have strongholds in Dublin are committed towards a war that few want and I cannot understand how such elements are tolerated in what is supposed to be a tolerant republic.

there was a letter in the irish times calling for support for marian price who was involved in the heroic slaying of a British soldier collecting a pizza at Masarene barracks.

THE PSNI is the police force of NI yet GAA members are still boycotting them. sectarianism has to be tackled on both sides.

Fuinseog

Happyman42 wrote: »

and? :rolleyes:

scumbags are beating people and getting away with it cos they are republicans.

steddyeddy

getz wrote: »

sorry but the bombings and shooting havent stopped in northern ireland,be it no longer sectarian/bigited shootings,the biggest problems are in the republican areas,take derry/londonderry in todays news,[man shot in both legs][ bonfire an excuse for vandalism] community workers have claimed vandals have used a dispute over a bonfire as an excuse for three consecutive nights for violent disturbances in londonderry to attack the police . there has been over 20 pipe bomb incidents in derry alone this year,and over a dozen shootings,be it republican v republican whatever,yet the irish posties are more interested in a pipe band playing outside a church ,wake up and smell cofffee

Wake up and smell the coffee? Heres a newsflash for you. Areas with intense bigotry, flag burning and discrimination are going to have violence its just a fact of life. you cant forget that northern Ireland's biogtry was used as a justification by south africa for their own racist policies.

The north is ine of the last places int he west to get democracry because of the bigoted government policies. Wake up and smell the coffee bigotry does no one any good. Its amazing that in this century I have to tell someone that bigotry is a bad thing.

getz

Fuinseog wrote: »

scumbags are beating people and getting away with it cos they are republicans.

happyman is happy about that,these so called irish heroes chased a young irish boxer over the boarder and shot him dead.

Show Time

The fools do not even realise how stupid they look on their yearly trouble stroll up North.

Why anyone in the Republic of Ireland would want to united with a land that spawned the Orange Order is beyond me.

getz

steddyeddy wrote: »

Wake up and smell the coffee? Heres a newsflash for you. Areas with intense bigotry, flag burning and discrimination are going to have violence its just a fact of life. you cant forget that northern Ireland's biogtry was used as a justification by south africa for their own racist policies.

The north is ine of the last places int he west to get democracry because of the bigoted government policies. Wake up and smell the coffee bigotry does no one any good. Its amazing that in this century I have to tell someone that bigotry is a bad thing.

i will except a bigot any day than a murderer,and what has northern ireland got to do with south africa/india/ i know its that blasphemous word british.

steddyeddy

getz wrote: »

i will except a bigot any day than a murderer,and what has northern ireland got to do with south africa/india/ i know its that blasphemous word british.

The south african government used northern irelands policies as justification for their segregration policies at the time.

Happyman42

Fuinseog wrote: »

THE PSNI is the police force of NI yet GAA members are still boycotting them. sectarianism has to be tackled on both sides.

Source please? :rolleyes: Where in the GAA constitution, where in anything the GAA say officially and in public, do they call for a boycott of the PSNI?

getz

steddyeddy wrote: »

The south african government used northern irelands policies as justification for their segregration policies at the time.

shock horror,no wonder you hate the brits, i know south africa should have taken notice of what mahatma gandhi told them to do,what they did,i did not realize ghandhi was racist.

SocSocPol

steddyeddy wrote: »

The south african government used northern irelands policies as justification for their segregration policies at the time.

You link to evidence of this?

RobbieTheRobber

getz wrote: »

shock horror,no wonder you hate the brits, i know south africa should have taken notice of what mahatma gandhi told them to do,what they did,i did not realize ghandhi was racist.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/oct/17/southafrica.india

However, the new statue has prompted bitter recollections about some of Gandhi's writings.

Forced to share a cell with black people, he wrote: "Many of the native prisoners are only one degree removed from the animal and often created rows and fought among themselves."

He was quoted at a meeting in Bombay in 1896 saying that Europeans sought to degrade Indians to the level of the "raw kaffir, whose occupation is hunting and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness".

alastair

steddyeddy wrote: »

The south african government used northern irelands policies as justification for their segregration policies at the time.

Bit tricky that - given that apartheid was introduced in '48.

steddyeddy

getz wrote: »

shock horror,no wonder you hate the brits, i know south africa should have taken notice of what mahatma gandhi told them to do,what they did,i did not realize ghandhi was racist.

No wonder I hate the Brits? Nice try If I were you I would go back to sidestepping the bigotry issue. Hating a load of bigots marching through areas that seen people killed because they were catholic does not equal hating british people. I love british people and they have been nothing but friendly to me. I think that equating these bands with anything british is more insulting to british people.

fasttalkerchat

Fuinseog wrote: »

there was a letter in the irish times calling for support for marian price who was involved in the heroic slaying of a British soldier collecting a pizza at Masarene barracks.

THE PSNI is the police force of NI yet GAA members are still boycotting them. sectarianism has to be tackled on both sides.

Think you're reading the Daily Mail...

laoch na mona

this threads still going?
wheres the troll hunter

steddyeddy

alastair wrote: »

Bit tricky that - given that apartheid was introduced in '48.

Aparthied continued into the 1980s. The international commission of jurists, a organization made up of lawyers and judges who fought for human rights around the world published a report on northern Ireland prior to the 1969 riots.

During the summer of 1969, before the riots broke out, the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) published a highly critical report on the British Government's policy in Northern Ireland. The Times wrote that this report "criticised the Northern Ireland Government for police brutality, religious discrimination [against Catholics] and gerrymandering in politics".[4] The ICJ secretary general said that laws and conditions in Northern Ireland had been cited by the South African government "to justify their own policies of discrimination" (see South Africa under apartheid).[4] The Times also reported that the Ulster Special Constabulary (USC), Northern Ireland's reserve police force, was "regarded as the militant arm of the Protestant Orange Order".[4] The Belfast Telegraph reported that the ICJ had added Northern Ireland to the list of states/jurisdictions "where the protection of human rights is inadequately assured".[5]