Is my housemate a slag or a prostitute?

PrincessLola

Neeson wrote: »

Yes. It is very clear. If thst was the mother I'd be disgusted thst she'd do that to my father. I'd be ashamed that the sister was either having a hammer pumped up her each night or that she's stuck in the room, afraid to come out or maybe unable to because of the weight issue. The best friend would be a similar scenario I suppose.

The girlfriend. There's nought to think about here. Why would she be taking other fellas into her room each night ?

They're not being literal, they are pleading with your sense of humanity to get you to try and empathise with women as fellow human beings, using the example of mothers/sisters because they feel you need to be spoken to in nice, simple analogies (I wonder why)
I am sick of seeing threads like this every other day. When women try to complain we're told we have no sense of humour.

And then a week later there'll be some pathetic thread about how white men are society's biggest victims.

midlandsmissus

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

You don't have an automatic right to censor someone else's opinion. These 'offensive words' are just an expression of that opinion.

No I don't, but offensive terms against ONE gender only shouldn't be used on a board where that gender should be able to feel comfortable coming to.

In fact is there any gender specific insulting term against males like slag? Is there at all? I can't think of any. As I'm trying to think of an example that would annoy you every time you came on boards.

Gummy Panda

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I don't know if anyone else has been around here as long as I have, but a good while ago, the women in AH brought to the mods attention that AH had become a terribly misogynistic place with 'slag, slut, bitch, ho' being used commonly.

Oh I remember the misogynistic conspiracy campaign lead by a poster who was found out to be making misandry comments herself lol

midlandsmissus

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Oh I remember the misogynistic conspiracy campaign lead by a poster who was found out to be making misandry comments herself lol

That's funny because that's not how I remember it at all...I remember an awful lot of women saying the same thing, standing up for themselves and instigating change.

midlandsmissus

PrincessLola wrote: »

They're not being literal, they are pleading with your sense of humanity to get you to try and empathise with women as fellow human beings, using the example of mothers/sisters because they feel you need to be spoken to in nice, simple analogies (I wonder why)
I am sick of seeing threads like this every other day. When women try to complain we're told we have no sense of humour.

And then a week later there'll be some pathetic thread about how white men are society's biggest victims.

That was really well said PrincessLola, proud of you!

PrincessLola

midlandsmissus wrote: »

In fact is there any gender specific insulting term against males like slag? Is there at all? I can't think of any. As I'm trying to think of an example that would annoy you every time you came on boards.

There are so many more words to describe promiscuous women than men.
All of them insulting.

Richard Hillman

She's sounds gamey. Nothing wrong with being gamey.

jurahnimoh

Maybe she's on a diet an chewing some cock instead of chocolate bars

Abdul Abulbul Amir

midlandsmissus wrote: »

No I don't, but offensive terms against ONE gender only shouldn't be used on a board where that gender should be able to feel comfortable coming to.

In fact is there any gender specific insulting term against males like slag? Is there at all? I can't think of any. As I'm trying to think of an example that would annoy you every time you came on boards.

So you don't have the right to censor someone, but actually you do, but don't worry about that, instead look over here at this *handwaving*

Gummy Panda

midlandsmissus wrote: »

That's funny because that's not how I remember it at all...I remember an awful lot of women saying the same thing, standing up for themselves and instigating change.

Maybe there was two threads but I remember one in feedback and it was a trainwreck

midlandsmissus

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

So you don't have the right to censor someone, but actually you do, but don't worry about that, instead look over here at this *handwaving*

I said I don't have the right to censor anyone's opinion, i.e anyone's thoughts on the matter.

But I do have the right to not see offensive crap about one gender only on a public forum that I frequent.
And it's not a free for all speech on here. Boards have the right to censor offensive posters.

If enough posters are unhappy about what is being said in a forum, and it has happened before, then yes things do change.

midlandsmissus

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Maybe there was two threads but I remember one in feedback and it was a trainwreck

Yeah I think it was a different thread Gummypanda because the one on AH was agreed to by alot of people, and I thought it had a great resolution and was about equality then I hope misandry.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

PrincessLola wrote: »

They're not being literal, they are pleading with your sense of humanity to get you to try and empathise with women as fellow human beings, using the example of mothers/sisters because they feel you need to be spoken to in nice, simple analogies (I wonder why)
I am sick of seeing threads like this every other day. When women try to complain we're told we have no sense of humour.

And then a week later there'll be some pathetic thread about how white men are society's biggest victims.

I disagree about it being such a great reply. People would judge this loved one of mine negatively, assuming she slept with a different guy every night. Do you really think that's some sort of great revelation? *I'd* judge that person negatively too.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I said I don't have the right to censor anyone's opinion, i.e anyone's thoughts on the matter.

But I do have the right to not see offensive crap about one gender only on a public forum that I frequent.
And it's not a free for all speech on here. Boards have the right to censor offensive posters.

If enough posters are unhappy about what is being said in a forum, and it has happened before, then yes things do change.

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot the part where i was supposed to assume you could control people's brains. Because that's what censorship is, direct mind control.

On general principle, people don't have a right to not be offended. I obviously don't run boards so that's up to the powers that be, but that's my take.

ArtyC

I think I've lived with this girl.you in galway?

gara

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

People would judge this loved one of mine negatively, assuming she slept with a different guy every night. *I'd* judge that person negatively too.

The facts of the matter are, it isn't really any of your business to judge. What consenting adults do amongst themselves without harming anyone else is no concern of yours.

There are more important things to moralise about than people's personal lives

Tarkus

Hasn't anyone bothered to ask what Lando thinks???

Suspicious Couple

There's an OP that'll get to the bottom of this...

ihsb

midlandsmissus wrote: »

In fact is there any gender specific insulting term against males like slag?

I would just call a man a slag under the same circumstances as I would refer to a woman as one (usually in a jokey way). Obviously some people judge the sexes differently but not me!

thelagg2000

A slag is a woman with the morals of a man??

flash1080

flash1080 wrote: »

Well, some young buck spent the night with her last night, they came into the kitchen this morning smelling like stale beer, sweat and ****.

You're out of milk by the way

Neeson

PrincessLola wrote: »

When women try to complain we're told we have no sense of humour.

And then a week later there'll be some pathetic thread about how white men are society's biggest victims.

Sure women are always complaining. I don't mind if women don't have a sense of humour. I'm used to it now. Blame the likes of Maeve Higgins and her cake cooking for that.

And I don't think white men have it bad but some might.

Neeson

midlandsmissus wrote: »

No I don't, but offensive terms against ONE gender only shouldn't be used on a board where that gender should be able to feel comfortable coming to.

Was the term not about the one girl in the apartment though?

ElephantStone

Piste wrote: »

I think if people reread the OP and thought about what if the girl the OP was describing was their mother, sister, girlfriend or best friend, would they maybe see why it bothers some people.

Definitely agree.
If my mam was bringing **** smelling lads home every night for a ride I'd be pretty bothered too.

PrincessLola

ElephantStone wrote: »

Definitely agree.
If my mam was bringing **** smelling lads home every night for a ride I'd be pretty bothered too.

This may blow your mind, but maybe its none of your business what women do.
Shocking, I know.

techsavysista

That's ridiculous. It's a shame that you don't like what you see but you can't expect to always like it.

This post is about a woman, one woman, noones generalisin. And noone is going to talk about mens behavious because that's going off topic.

I do personally think that people habe gone ott with the slag comments for their own amusement but I also thnk that if a guy carried on like this in a way that made their housemate uncomfortable then they too would be judged the same way.

Maybe it can't be articulated as well without the male equivalent to these insults (making up new ones is pointless and if u think they can only be used for women that's your fault) but I think the feeling would be the same.

Neeson

PrincessLola wrote: »

This may blow your mind, but maybe its none of your business what women do.
Shocking, I know.

It's our business what our mother's do, especially when we live with them. We mightn't want to know everything but you don't want Mammy bringing strange men home to a spare bedroom each night and the door being closed and not knowing what's going on. What would Daddy say?

The slag is the OP's business because she's dirty. She's dirtying his life with her **** smelling fellas. That's when it becomes his business.

kumate_champ07

sit her down and ask for 50%(settle at 35% but make sure you get freebies any time you want) or you call the vice squad

PrincessLola

Neeson wrote: »

It's our business what our mother's do, especially when we live with them.

I never would have guessed.

The slag is the OP's business because she's dirty. She's dirtying his life with her **** smelling fellas. That's when it becomes his business.

I don't even..

I can't

techsavysista wrote: »

That's ridiculous. It's a shame that you don't like what you see but you can't expect to always like it.

This post is about a woman, one woman, noones generalisin. And noone is going to talk about mens behavious because that's going off topic.

I do personally think that people habe gone ott with the slag comments for their own amusement but I also thnk that if a guy carried on like this in a way that made their housemate uncomfortable then they too would be judged the same way.

Maybe it can't be articulated as well without the male equivalent to these insults (making up new ones is pointless and if u think they can only be used for women that's your fault) but I think the feeling would be the same.

"Sexism doesn't exist because I say so. Its just a coincidence that there are so many women bashing threads in AH."

efb

Is this the worst thread ever in AH? And that takes some doing...

LH Pathe

Yeah this slew of misogynism don't
appear too healthy - should serve as a reminder

She may well, be a prostitute op but she's
definitely a slag.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

PrincessLola wrote: »

"Sexism doesn't exist because I say so. Its just a coincidence that there are so many women bashing threads in AH."

That's not even close to what she said, and she's right.

As for it not being anyone's business, that's crap. People will naturally form an opinion of anything they hear or see, good bad or indifferent. What you actually want is for people not to express themselves, and I don't see any reason people should be silent because you tell them to be.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

So, the answer is slag then? She sounds disgusting.

And everyone cut out this double standard crap, if this were a guy the same people would be lining up to bash him and say how he's riddled with STDs.

OP if you use the same washing machine do let us know if you end up with any fungal infections or the like

not sure i`d like random guys popping into the house every night of the week from a security point of view.

midlandsmissus

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

That's not even close to what she said, and she's right.

As for it not being anyone's business, that's crap. People will naturally form an opinion of anything they hear or see, good bad or indifferent. What you actually want is for people not to express themselves, and I don't see any reason people should be silent because you tell them to be.

Contrary to what you think you are NOT entitled to say whatever you feel on a forum. That's why Mods, and banning systems are in place.

If what you and other posters say is deemed to be offensive to a big portion of people using boards then rules can be changed of what is allowed and what is not.

Would you like to come somewhere where you feel you're not welcome?

Abdul Abulbul Amir

It's not my problem if you don't feel welcome, that's your own interpretation of the situation.

stimpson

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Would you like to come somewhere where you feel you're not welcome?

:eek:

midlandsmissus

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

It's not my problem if you don't feel welcome, that's your own interpretation of the situation.

If you use this mentality then it's okay to say racist words and too bad if those people are offended, it's their problem.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

midlandsmissus wrote: »

If you use this mentality then it's okay to say racist words and too bad if those people are offended, it's their problem.

That's because people suggest that other races are subhuman, have no good traits, are stupid, natural criminals etc. Those are the ideas behind racist slurs. Slag or slut means someone who sleeps around a lot and indicates the speaker's disapproval. You're not comparing like with like.

Tombi!

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

That's because people suggest that other races are subhuman, have no good traits, are stupid, natural criminals etc. Those are the ideas behind racist slurs. Slag or slut means someone who sleeps around a lot and indicates the speaker's disapproval. You're not comparing like with like.

I'm not going to stay too long in this thread but a slag and a slut is a lot different.
A slut isn't that offensive and can be used to describe a man.

A slag is pretty offensive to a woman

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I'm not going to stay too long in this thread but a slag and a slut is a lot different.
A slut isn't that offensive and can be used to describe a man.

A slag is pretty offensive to a woman

News to me.

Macca07

This has really gone off point...

OP, maybe sit down and get to know your new housemate, she probably is a really nice girl.

Tell me, would it bother you if your new housemate was an overweight male bringing different girls up to his room every night?

midlandsmissus

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

That's because people suggest that other races are subhuman, have no good traits, are stupid, natural criminals etc. Those are the ideas behind racist slurs. Slag or slut means someone who sleeps around a lot and indicates the speaker's disapproval. You're not comparing like with like.

I am, the analogy between the two, is that the terms used to insult these people are something that is come up with to intentionally insult one group only due to their race/ sex. Therefore, how is it any different?

Tombi!

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

News to me.

Well there you go, learning something new every day

But yeah a slag is usually the equivelent of a dirty, diseased ridden slut that'll sleep with anything for well, anything.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I am, the analogy between the two, is that the terms used to insult these people are something that is come up with to intentionally insult one group only due to their race/ sex. Therefore, how is it any different?

Because that isn't actually true.

Well there you go, learning something new every day

But yeah a slag is usually the equivelent of a dirty, diseased ridden slut that'll sleep with anything for well, anything.

I always thought they were pretty much the same, though slag wouldn't really feature much in my vocabulary. Maybe it varies from place to place.

Tombi!

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

I always thought they were pretty much the same, though slag wouldn't really feature much in my vocabulary. Maybe it varies from place to place.

I assume it does. But in Dublin at least I've always known it to be another word for a cheap slut that'll do anything to get a free pint or few euros.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I assume it does. But in Dublin at least I've always known it to be another word for a cheap slut that'll do anything to get a free pint or few euros.

Ah, well they'll probably get both the words banned now anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Mugser

OP: Do you find many empty flour bags in with the rubbish?

VEN

if they want to take home lads/ladies every night then let them do as they please, but personally i wouldn't have much respect for this said person for 2 reasons. you are sharing with them, its not their own place. if they had any sense of place at all they'd have mentioned it to you in simple terms as "oh i'll have a friend/s coming to visit from time to time, they might be staying over etc" - fancy meeting a stranger on the stairs you might end up clocking by mistaking for a burglar?

and secondly, as the first reason obviously shows disrespect towards you,they have shown themselves to have pretty much a lack of respect for themselves.
therefore i personally wouldn't have anything to do with someone who sleeps around a lot, promiscous types i have found to be quite manipulative in their motives, not to mention shallow - i'd avoid.

just mind your own business and you'll be fine, you're better off!

Tzar Chasm

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

That's not even close to what she said, and she's right.

As for it not being anyone's business, that's crap. People will naturally form an opinion of anything they hear or see, good bad or indifferent. What you actually want is for people not to express themselves, and I don't see any reason people should be silent because you tell them to be.

Contrary to what you think you are NOT entitled to say whatever you feel on a forum. That's why Mods, and banning systems are in place.

If what you and other posters say is deemed to be offensive to a big portion of people using boards then rules can be changed of what is allowed and what is not.

Would you like to come somewhere where you feel you're not welcome?

Well yeah if it offended a majority of posters then I would expect the individual posters to be censured, however this thread seems to be the opposite, a disproportionate but vocal minority wants to create the impression of outrage where none exists, that offends me more than any humorous responses utilisung the word slag/slut/whale

Neeson

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Would you like to come somewhere where you feel you're not welcome?

No. I'd have to look at why I wasn't welcome though. Maybe because it's my fault. That's he case with this slag.

She might not feel welcome but how could she if she's acting in that sort of way, bringing dirtiness into the home she shares with another. There gave to be rules and considerations for who you're living with and this girl doesn't seem to care. She'll dirty the place up if she wants.

KeithM89_old

Way to ruin the thread.