Some Irish women

Sea Filly

billybudd wrote: »

Some Irish women are great and some are not, ditto for men!!!!!!

And it really is that simple.

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Or one could conclude that foreign men don't like Irish women.

Oi vey. This is frequently trotted out, the subtext being a vaguely threatening "We're too good for you, foreign men are too god for you, so put out for your own good."

Daveysil15

Sea Filly wrote: »

Oi vey. This is frequently trotted out, the subtext being a vaguely threatening "We're too good for you, foreign men are too god for you, so put out for your own good."

Well I did say one could conclude, as apposed to one could conclude that Irish women prefer Irish men. It could very well be a combination of both. The fact is - you don't see as many Irish women with foreign men, as you do Irish men with foreign women.

Bazgina

mishkalucy wrote: »

Also...........


**** I'd be scared to go back out there into the dating game if this is the play now:eek:

you have no idea.... its a case of your damned if you do or damned if you dont! XD I usually go to clubs with my mates on nights out and have no expections of guys or a standard he has to be. If he had manners Id be blown away lol. As someone mentioned most ppl at clubs are out for the ride.

Galwayguy35

PrincessLola wrote: »

And rudeness is the sole preserve of women. Of course.

You might point out where I said that. It was bad manners what she did and I would have said the same thing if it was a guy who did it.
You seem to be implying that just because someone had a bad day that it's an excuse to be rude. Well it's not.

guitarzero

But he's a man, he should suck it up, he probably has very little feelings anyway. The fact that he may be ugly means he can be overlooked and dispensed with. AND, after all, she's a girl (not a woman, thats a assigned to females who take responsibility for their actions and have matured), she has every right to tear this fella down for even thinking he could go up to her.

This is the modern way, treating women like spoilt girls will just endorse them to behave like spoilt girls.

Daveysil15

mishkalucy wrote: »

Also...........


**** I'd be scared to go back out there into the dating game if this is the play now:eek:

Yes the dating scene is quite a jungle now. How does one find romance nowadays?

Bazgina wrote: »

you have no idea.... its a case of your damned if you do or damned if you dont! XD I usually go to clubs with my mates on nights out and have no expections of guys or a standard he has to be. If he had manners Id be blown away lol. As someone mentioned most ppl at clubs are out for the ride.

When did that become a problem though? There was a time when that was acceptable. It seems now you're stigmatized for having a sex drive.

Sea Filly

Daveysil15 wrote: »

The fact is - you don't see as many Irish women with foreign men, as you do Irish men with foreign women.

In my own social circle, this isn't true. My experience is as valid as yours, they're all just anecdotes.

Tombi!

guitarzero wrote: »

But he's a man, he should suck it up, he probably has very little feelings anyway. The fact that he may be ugly means he can be overlooked and dispensed with. AND, after all, she's a girl (not a woman, thats a assigned to females who take responsibility for their actions and have matured), she has every right to tear this fella down for even thinking he could go up to her.

This is the modern way, treating women like spoilt girls will just endorse them to behave like spoilt girls.

You're right he should suck it up.
He got rejected.

He didn't get a slap in the face followed by a list of reasons why he won't ever get a girlfriend.

And no, that spoilt woman thing comes from how they were treated early on. You continue being a doormat for women and they'll abuse you as one. There's nothing wrong with being firm with a woman. There's nothing wrong with being firm with a man.

If you think a woman is acting like a spoilt child, stop treating her like one and treat her like woman

Scanlas The 2nd

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The wristband idea is stupid. If you are very attractive you don't want everyone to know you are available.

This idea that it's just Irish women that can be bitchy in nightclubs is ridiculous. It's the same all over the world, its a filtering mechanism to repel men lacking in cajones.

Champions learn how to disarm the bitchiness, champions don't wallow in self pity, they practice and learn and get better at pulling hot women. They don't allow rejection to hurt them, they accept themselves.

Who said anything about been very attractive? What about the average people? Champions know how to disarm the bitchiness ehh. God you sound like one of those pick up artists. People shouldn't have to deal with bitchiness in the first place. If someone is a bitch leave them, and move onto someone else.

A less than friendly demeanour is often necessary in certain environments, it's reality. I should be a millionaire, should I tell that to the Ferrari salesman, maybe he'll give me one then.

People have the right to be bitchy in the first place, that right shouldn't be taken away.

Madam_X

Daveysil15 wrote: »

My question is - when did casual sex become a crime?

It never did? If anything people are probably more promiscuous than ever.

God be with the days when you could ride some young one at the back of a night club and not have to worry about the moral implications of it. Nowadays if you go looking for that sort of thing you're a big creep. It's like men are been made to feel bad for wanting to go out and hook up with women. Are women not as promiscuous since the recession or something?

It's called age. As women get older, many of them are less interested in one-night stands or riding at the back of a nightclub (ew... skanky - unless it's your partner).
Bit bizarre you think people are less promiscuous really...

Scanlas The 2nd

Onixx wrote: »

Daveysil15 wrote: »

My question is - when did casual sex become a crime?

It never did? If anything people are probably more promiscuous than ever.

God be with the days when you could ride some young one at the back of a night club and not have to worry about the moral implications of it. Nowadays if you go looking for that sort of thing you're a big creep. It's like men are been made to feel bad for wanting to go out and hook up with women. Are women not as promiscuous since the recession or something?

It's called age. As women get older, many of them are less interested in one-night stands or riding at the back of a nightclub (ew... skanky - unless it's your partner).
Bit bizarre you think people are less promiscuous really...

In 2006 people were more promiscuous.

Madam_X

In 2006 you were six years younger, in 2006 more people were going on the piss.

Daveysil15

Onixx wrote: »

Bit bizarre you think people are less promiscuous really...

Onixx wrote: »

in 2006 more people were going on the piss.

You just answered your own question there.

Madam_X

And there you go: there isn't a culture of casual sex being frowned upon, it's just that people aren't going out on the pull as much with funds being low.

Carson10

The ugly friend always comes over cos she jealous as f*ck and tries to pull the friend away.

Does any1 else ever notice that if there happens to be a really hot Irish girl in a club she always has a really ugly fat girl friend next to her.?

Augmerson

A woman....or more like girl, in a club, is no way indicative of how women in general are like in Ireland.

Madam_X

It's the venues too - you'll get a much nicer crowd in rock/funk/reggae/indie-playing kinda places than you would in Rihanna-playing dumps.

Daveysil15

Onixx wrote: »

It's the venues too - you'll get a much nicer crowd in rock/funk/reggae/indie-playing kinda places than you would in Rihanna-playing dumps.

What about the trance/techno places? But yes I agree, the venues do play a big part.

3ndahalfof6

LH Pathe wrote: »

Sum of em Some of em.

them

3ndahalfof6

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Go to better places. Usually girls grow outta that Paris Hilton phase. Just like the men grow out of "any girl will do".

I know a song about that.

PrincessLola

Daveysil15 wrote: »

This comment is only compounding the problem and will give the men yet another reason to complain about women.

Oh god let me go find a single f*ck to give.

Because men are giving women NO reason to complain about them at all, nope.

Carson10

Carson10 wrote: »

The ugly friend always comes over cos she jealous as f*ck and tries to pull the friend away.

Does any1 else ever notice that if there happens to be a really hot Irish girl in a club she always has a really ugly fat girl friend next to her.?

You use this as your excuse as to why the hot one has no interest in you, don't you?:rolleyes:

Did you ever think you might be the fat, ugly friend in the eyes of a woman?

Did you ever think your general attitude could be piss poor?

Franco Begbie

PrincessLola wrote: »

Oh god let me go find a single f*ck to give.

Because men are giving women NO reason to complain about them at all, nope.

Jaysus......who took the jam out of your doughnut?!;)

Daveysil15

PrincessLola wrote: »

Oh god let me go find a single f*ck to give.

Because men are giving women NO reason to complain about them at all, nope.

Franco Begbie wrote: »

Jaysus......who took the jam out of your doughnut?!;)

Exactly. Someone's certainly venting her anger. That's it princess, let it all out.

Piste

Bazgina wrote: »

As someone mentioned most ppl at clubs are out for the ride.

I don't agree with this at all, whenever any of my friends has suggested going out nobody has ever said "gee I hope we get laid!" it's a way to socialise with each other, dance and have a bit of fun. I don't think most people think about meeting strangers in the club, for the most part they want to tend to go out and chat with the people they know. Possibly the mentality of "everyone here wants to have sex with someone so why not me?" is feeding into this culture of entitlement where some men feel women are stuck up bitches for refusing them sex, or even for preferring the company of their friends over the man's company.

Tombi!

Piste wrote: »

I don't agree with this at all, whenever any of my friends has suggested going out nobody has ever said "gee I hope we get laid!" it's a way to socialise with each other, dance and have a bit of fun. I don't think most people think about meeting strangers in the club, for the most part they want to tend to go out and chat with the people they know. Possibly the mentality of "everyone here wants to have sex with someone so why not me?" is feeding into this culture of entitlement where some men feel women are stuck up bitches for refusing them sex, or even for preferring the company of their friends over the man's company.

Depends greatly upon the place you go to. I wouldn't set foot in the places where people basically go to get wrecked, fight and hook up.
But it's like you going out with your friends to a club like that and all your friends have found a lad and you sit thinking "this isn't fun" and a lad comes to you and chats you up and you aren't interested. He'll see your friends and probably think you're a bitch for not going for it.

Madam_X

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Exactly. Someone's certainly venting her anger. That's it princess, let it all out.

A lot of her points are spot-on. No need for her to insult people, yeah, but she's zoning in on very pertinent points, such as the nonsense about men being just as insulted, and the amount of threads here attacking women, as opposed to the lack of such threads attacking men. Men and women are different but there are ass-hats among them both, so why obsess over one gender? I've met asshole guys - I don't feel the need to get on a soapbox about the assholes among guys, and I don't think it's a healthy approach either.

Piste

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Depends greatly upon the place you go to. I wouldn't set foot in the places where people basically go to get wrecked, fight and hook up.
But it's like you going out with your friends to a club like that and all your friends have found a lad and you sit thinking "this isn't fun" and a lad comes to you and chats you up and you aren't interested. He'll see your friends and probably think you're a bitch for not going for it.

And this is a problem. Nobody is entitled to another person's company, attention or sex. So when they refuse to give any of these things to them, it doesn't make them a bitch or stuck up, it just means they're not interested for whatever reason.

Tombi!

Piste wrote: »

And this is a problem. Nobody is entitled to another person's company, attention or sex. So when they refuse to give any of these things to them, it doesn't make them a bitch or stuck up, it just means they're not interested for whatever reason.

Yes but society will always view them as stuck up or a bitch if they're a woman.
Or in my case I'm gay if a girl won't get me to dance

Dr.Winston O'Boogie

This is what is wrong the modern Irish women. Ridiculously high standards even when they have nothing going for themselves. The difference between what the Polish women say and the 4 Irish mingers at the end is incredible.

Madam_X

niallo24 wrote: »

This is what is wrong the modern Irish women. Ridiculously high standards even when they have nothing going for themselves. The difference between what the Polish women say and the 4 Irish mingers at the end is incredible.

God that clip is embarrassing - for a number of reasons.

1. The stupid bint reporting sneers about Irish men the way the handful of men here go on about Irish women

2. Plenty of those Polish women are clearly just saying Irish men are great because they feel it's the polite thing to say on camera (not doubting some are genuine though)

3. The Irish women they chose to speak to are indeed up themselves with very little justification

But no, that's not a definitive representation of "the modern Irish woman" and anyone who says it is is either: being a dick or not the sharpest.

Daveysil15

Onixx wrote: »

God that clip is embarrassing - for a number of reasons.

1. The stupid bint reporting sneers about Irish men the way the handful of men here go on about Irish women

2. Plenty of those Polish women are clearly just saying Irish men are great because they feel it's the polite thing to say on camera (not doubting some are genuine though)

3. The Irish women they chose to speak to are indeed up themselves with very little justification

But no, that's not a definitive representation of "the modern Irish woman" and anyone who says it is is either: being a dick or not the sharpest.

1. In fairness she's only been sarcastic as she always is for that show. She's actually quite lovely in person.

2. Well at least they are polite, but I'd imagine most are genuine about it.

3. Yes I'd agree with that and of course not all Irish women are like that.

laoch na mona

bitches be crazy
(i mean lady dogs)

as for the ops women thing good luck with that

Lyaiera

What annoys me is the automatic presumption than dancing with someone means you want to have sex with them. There are some places I've walked into, headed straight for the dance floor because the music was good, and been desolate that the second I see the dance floor there are guys sidling up to girls with the skeaziest look in their eyes, and girls are flinging their hands towards guys' arses and bollocks with come hither looks. And what's most infuriating is that this happens in the matter of half a song. By the time two minutes have passed the approacher has made contact with the approachee, gotten near them, and either had success or been rebuked.

I fcuking love dancing. And I will say that absolutely, yes dancing a good dance with someone is extremely pleasurable even verging on sexual. But if you're just going to approach someone with lust in your eyes, then you're really not the kind of person I want to dance with. And it kills me that this happens in some places I used to really like. Because it basically means if you're on the dancefloor and a bit of a minger you have no chance of actually dancing with someone. People are just thinking, "I'd do him/her, lets throw my arms about at her and move my hips at him and see if they're ameniable to touching my genitals!" Like I said, dancing can be sexual, but it's also a way of getting to know someone (entirely through body language) and can actually tell a lot about someone. But for a lot of people it seems to be a tiny step above walking straight up to someone and asking, "Can I shift you?"

I've abandoned a good few pubs purely because that's the way the dancefloor has headed. If I do dance with you in a pub chances are it's because you look like you're having fun and I think I'll have fun with you too. We might be able to feed our dancing off each other. And we might end up chatting by the end of the night if you seem like good fun.

Piste

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Yes but society will always view them as stuck up or a bitch if they're a woman.
Or in my case I'm gay if a girl won't get me to dance

And this is a problem, I hope that this is a view society will move away from, and I think conversations like this help because they let people say they have a problem with this viewpoint and let's them express that just because a woman isn't interested in you doesn't make her a bitch.

Festy

lolz at the Irish women in that video,like take a look in the mirror ffs

Micky Dolenz

and we are done.