new super club in england

madma

well with all these new takeovers by rich folk who's gonna be the new man city or close to that...?

Nottingham forest....leeds.....qpr.....

well not as big as man city but who it will be intersting to see what signings these clubs make and what direstion they take. leeds havent had theres confirmed but i reckon they will soon

scudzilla

When this Fair play thing comes in, a team may only spend what's coming in, then all this bollox will stop.

Think it's for the start of next season

madma

scudzilla wrote: »

When this Fair play thing comes in, a team may only spend what's coming in, then all this bollox will stop.

Think it's for the start of next season

hopefully its in soon.. money has obviously been ruining the game and it needs to be plugged.

im invisible

I thought this was going to be about Gatecrasher, Ministry of Sound, Cream...

madma

im invisible wrote: »

I thought this was going to be about Gatecrasher, Ministry of Sound, Cream...

haha funny enough thats another topic id probably be posting about in the clubbing section

CSF

madma wrote: »

im invisible wrote: »

I thought this was going to be about Gatecrasher, Ministry of Sound, Cream...

haha funny enough thats another topic id probably be posting about in the clubbing section

You're missing an n in your username there. Propa nawty geezah!!!!

madma

CSF wrote: »

You're missing an n in your username there. Propa nawty geezah!!!!

haha the plan was to throw in the extra A to disguise the word. should have just put the n and the end though

Helix

scudzilla wrote: »

When this Fair play thing comes in, a team may only spend what's coming in, then all this bollox will stop.

Think it's for the start of next season

it came in last summer

JPA

This fair play thing well have zero effect.

NIMAN

JPA wrote: »

This fair play thing well have zero effect.

Agree completely.

If the likes of Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Barca, Real Madrid, Bayern, Inter, Juve are forced to only spend what they bring in, then they will threaten UEFA that they will break away and form their own leagues/CLs, and as a result UEFA will cave in.

whatawaster

I think FFP will have an effect, precisely because it is what the powerful clubs in Europe will want.

Man United, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, AC Milan can all live within their means and still spend money due to their massive revenues.

You can be sure they will be putting massive pressure on Uefa, because they will not be happy with Man City, Chelsea, Malaga, PSG etc spending whatever they want.

The old clubs wield far more power than the new rich ones imo

d22ontour

JPA wrote: »

This fair play thing well have zero effect.

Ah i am sure all of the clubs will abide by the rules.

In other news a relatively unknown Russian billionaire named Oman Rambramovich has offered to sponsor each corner flag at stamford bridge for 25m each year in a 10 year deal.
Manchester City, PSG, FC Anzhi etc are closely monitoring developments.

Richard Hillman

scudzilla wrote: »

When this Fair play thing comes in, a team may only spend what's coming in, then all this bollox will stop.

Think it's for the start of next season

How is it "bollox"? Its making football more competetive and entertaining. In England for example, without sugar daddies it would have been just Man Utd winning the league 11 out of the last 14 years.

greendom

Is there not already a rule that covers the football league where clubs have to live within their means ?

batistuta9

Nobody except the teams who're at the top, if this comes in will win the league ever again

CSF

In England, nobody but the teams at the top will ever win the league anyway, unless they get funded millions by some madlad.

Dub13

d22ontour wrote: »

JPA wrote: »

This fair play thing well have zero effect.

Ah i am sure all of the clubs will abide by the rules.

In other news a relatively unknown Russian billionaire named Oman Rambramovich has offered to sponsor each corner flag at stamford bridge for 25m each year in a 10 year deal.
Manchester City, PSG, FC Anzhi etc are closely monitoring developments.

It's watertight,that will not work.

kryogen

I disagree that teams like United would not flourish under the FFP rules, it would actually give us an advantage over our two main rivals considering we have more revenue then them and could offer more wages as well.

Teams like Chelsea and City, and in Europe PSG would not have a hope though. I actually have no idea how PSG are going to manage considering all the players they are signing and more importantly the wages they are shelling out in relation to turnover

everdead.ie

United would easily have a much bigger advantage over all the other clubs.

Spurs and Arsenal would be the next clubs to benefit massively from this. Both clubs would be able to maintain and improve their teams.

Chelsea and City are running massive losses.
Then there is also the fact that City's massive 400 million deal with ethiad looks like it could not be counted in the ffp rules because of the close relationship between the owners of both companies.

batistuta9

CSF wrote: »

In England, nobody but the teams at the top will ever win the league anyway, unless they get funded millions by some madlad.

that's kinda what i meant though, if they come in & are enforced, nobody except the top 3/4 will win the league again

there'll be no way for clubs like chelsea to make the leap from the CL places to title contenders, or clubs like city to win leagues, even for clubs like tottenham to challenge for CL places.

the teams in the top places are already established & will be generating more income, than those like newcastle say, who'd need a good bit of money to make them title challengers

& the same handful of teams always win the big leagues in europe anyway, bar maybe france

Richard Hillman

Dub13 wrote: »

It's watertight,that will not work.

There will always be ways around it. There is nothing to stop Al-Wahda (Owned by Sheikh Mansours brother) signing Costel Pantilimon for €200 million and Sheikh Mansour giving his brother a birthday present of €200 million.

Or how about Roman Abramovich starting up a Table tennis league starring John "Ping Pong" Terry, Eden "The Bat Man" Hazzard and Ashley "Ace" Cole. He can pay his players minimum wage for football and 100 grand a week for their "table tennis" exploits. UEFA cant stop the lads having part time jobs to pay the bills. Its a tough life being on minimum wage

DB21

Richard Hillman wrote: »

There will always be ways around it. There is nothing to stop Al-Wahda (Owned by Sheikh Mansours brother) signing Costel Pantilimon for €200 million and Sheikh Mansour giving his brother a birthday present of €200 million.

Or how about Roman Abramovich starting up a Table tennis league starring John "Ping Pong" Terry, Eden "The Bat Man" Hazzard and Ashley "Ace" Cole. He can pay his players minimum wage for football and 100 grand a week for their "table tennis" exploits. UEFA cant stop the lads having part time jobs to pay the bills. Its a tough life being on minimum wage

#

It's been said many times that any irregular financial deals would be investigated. Sudden moves like those in your post would be blocked.

Richard Hillman

DB21 wrote: »

#

It's been said many times that any irregular financial deals would be investigated. Sudden moves like those in your post would be blocked.

In terms of an unusual massive transfer for a mediocre player, UEFA cant just decide how much a player is worth otherwise they will be setting the transfer fees for everybody but im sure they may be able to police it.

I dont see how UEFA can punish a club because their players take up part time "work" in another field. It would be against employment laws. I also question how UEFA can find out officially about side payments. They have no authority to look at Sheikh Mansours or Roman Abramovichs personal bank accounts. Nor do they have the authority to look at John Terrys wifes bank account after she takes up the role of "Real Estate consultant" for Mr Abramovich, paying a cool 7 million a year.

Guy:Incognito

scudzilla wrote: »

When this Fair play thing comes in, a team may only spend what's coming in, then all this bollox will stop.

Think it's for the start of next season

Unless the owners put the tickets prices to £1000 each and a billionaire friend of thiers "gifts" each person that buys a ticket £970 ish (depending on current ticket prices) towards their tickets when buying

Maybe some rich Arab oil Sheiks company will choose to sponsor City ,say for £300m. Some Russian guy might choose to get his company to sponsor Chelsea for massive money too.

EDIT, beaten too it. :-(

Ebbs

With the likes of QPR, Leeds, Notts etc getting new owners, I can see the game just moving more towards money. There will be no rich clubs as all the to sides will be owned by oil billionaires.

stovelid

I hear ya.

Really hard to pick the right team to support when some nobody might end up being the best.

:'(