Living legends in Major League Soccer

shangri la

Apart from the obvious of becks and henry, who are the players currently playing in america who played at the highest level in Europe?

I was reading last week a premier league team signed a decent player from the MLS who was earning "only" $3k/week and his new teammates would probably overage over 10 times that salary.

There must be HUGE differences in salaries within each teams first XI as there is strict financial controls in the MLS.

Is it a case where a MLS team signes a big name player that his new teammates have to share less of the pie so to speak?

Helix

each club has a salary cap that they can't go over. however they're allowed two designated players. these are usually the big names that break the salary cap restrictions.

all player registrations are centrally held i believe, which is to say that the player contracts are to the MLS and not to the clubs, and it's the MLS who pay their wages

Xavi6

shangri la wrote: »

Is it a case where a MLS team signes a big name player that his new teammates have to share less of the pie so to speak?

No because the wages of these marquee players falls outside the salary cap.

TheStook

Only players off the top of my head are Rafael Marquez, former Barca centre back, and Juan Pablo Angel. Angel could be retired now though but he played for Ny red bulls recenty.

eagle eye

TheStook wrote: »

Only players off the top of my head are Rafael Marquez, former Barca centre back, and Juan Pablo Angel. Angel could be retired now though but he played for Ny red bulls recenty.

Its been a while since you watched it obviously. Angel went to the Galaxy in 2010 and is now with Chivas USA.

Other well known players in the MLS include Alessandro Nesta, Torsten Frings, Kris Boyd, Arne Friedrich and theres others I just can't think of right now.

Hoki

eagle eye wrote: »

TheStook wrote: »

Only players off the top of my head are Rafael Marquez, former Barca centre back, and Juan Pablo Angel. Angel could be retired now though but he played for Ny red bulls recenty.

Its been a while since you watched it obviously. Angel went to the Galaxy in 2010 and is now with Chivas USA.

Other well known players in the MLS include Alessandro Nesta, Torsten Frings, Kris Boyd, Arne Friedrich and theres others I just can't think of right now.

Robbie Keane finally got his wish of joining his 7th favourite boyhood club as well there last season.

Captain Havoc

Marquee player list from wikipedia.



Year Signed Player Nation Current club 2012 Guaranteed Compensation [12]
2007 David Beckham ENG Los Angeles Galaxy $4,000,000
2009 Julian de Guzman CAN FC Dallas $1,910,746
2010 Landon Donovan USA Los Angeles Galaxy $2,400,000
2010 Thierry Henry FRA New York Red Bulls $5,600,000
2010 Álvaro Fernández URU Seattle Sounders FC $366,667
2010 Rafael Márquez MEX New York Red Bulls $4,600,000
2010 Fredy Montero COL Seattle Sounders FC $756,000
2011 David Ferreira COL FC Dallas $705,000
2010 Álvaro Saborío CRC Real Salt Lake $405,625
2011 Eric Hassli FRA Vancouver Whitecaps FC $790,000
2011 Fabián Castillo COL FC Dallas $56,250
2011 Diego Chará COL Portland Timbers $193,750
2011 Torsten Frings GER Toronto FC $2,413,667
2011 Danny Koevermans NED Toronto FC $1,563,323
2011 Robbie Keane IRE Los Angeles Galaxy $3,417,243
2012 Mauro Rosales ARG Seattle Sounders FC $225,000
2012 Hamdi Salihi ALB D.C. United $487,460
2012 Kris Boyd SCO Portland Timbers $1,515,000
2012 Freddy Adu USA Philadelphia Union $519,000
2012 Shalrie Joseph GRN New England Revolution $554,333
2012 Javier Morales ARG Real Salt Lake $477,500
2012 Barry Robson SCO Vancouver Whitecaps FC $n/a
2012 Marco Di Vaio ITA Montreal Impact $n/a
2012 Oscar Boniek García HND Houston Dynamo $n/a
2012 Jerry Bengtson HND New England Revolution $n/a

theteal

Helix wrote: »

each club has a salary cap that they can't go over. however they're allowed two designated players. these are usually the big names that break the salary cap restrictions.

3

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Marquee player list from wikipedia.

Year Signed Player Nation Current club 2012 Guaranteed Compensation [12]
2007 David Beckham ENG Los Angeles Galaxy $4,000,000
2009 Julian de Guzman CAN FC Dallas $1,910,746
2010 Landon Donovan USA Los Angeles Galaxy $2,400,000
2010 Thierry Henry FRA New York Red Bulls $5,600,000
2010 Álvaro Fernández URU Seattle Sounders FC $366,667
2010 Rafael Márquez MEX New York Red Bulls $4,600,000
2010 Fredy Montero COL Seattle Sounders FC $756,000
2011 David Ferreira COL FC Dallas $705,000
2010 Álvaro Saborío CRC Real Salt Lake $405,625
2011 Eric Hassli FRA Vancouver Whitecaps FC $790,000
2011 Fabián Castillo COL FC Dallas $56,250
2011 Diego Chará COL Portland Timbers $193,750
2011 Torsten Frings GER Toronto FC $2,413,667
2011 Danny Koevermans NED Toronto FC $1,563,323
2011 Robbie Keane IRE Los Angeles Galaxy $3,417,243
2012 Mauro Rosales ARG Seattle Sounders FC $225,000
2012 Hamdi Salihi ALB D.C. United $487,460
2012 Kris Boyd SCO Portland Timbers $1,515,000
2012 Freddy Adu USA Philadelphia Union $519,000
2012 Shalrie Joseph GRN New England Revolution $554,333
2012 Javier Morales ARG Real Salt Lake $477,500
2012 Barry Robson SCO Vancouver Whitecaps FC $n/a
2012 Marco Di Vaio ITA Montreal Impact $n/a
2012 Oscar Boniek García HND Houston Dynamo $n/a
2012 Jerry Bengtson HND New England Revolution $n/a

i was going to question the omission of the mighty caleb, then i googled. . .i did not know he was a birmingham last year. . .and since been released :eek:

I didn't know robson went over, decent player

Seaneh

Matteo Ferrari, Alesandro Nesta, Marco Di Vaio and Bernardo Corradi all have Italian national caps and are all at Montreal Impact.

Pinturicchio

Seaneh wrote: »

Matteo Ferrari, Alesandro Nesta, Marco Di Vaio and Bernardo Corradi all have Italian national caps and are all at Montreal Impact.

Del Piero could be joining them soon.

Lawrence1895

And that all started with the likes of Pele and Beckenbauer

Gillington

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Marquee player list from wikipedia.



Year Signed Player Nation Current club 2012 Guaranteed Compensation [12]
2007 David Beckham ENG Los Angeles Galaxy $4,000,000
2009 Julian de Guzman CAN FC Dallas $1,910,746
2010 Landon Donovan USA Los Angeles Galaxy $2,400,000
2010 Thierry Henry FRA New York Red Bulls $5,600,000
2010 Álvaro Fernández URU Seattle Sounders FC $366,667
2010 Rafael Márquez MEX New York Red Bulls $4,600,000
2010 Fredy Montero COL Seattle Sounders FC $756,000
2011 David Ferreira COL FC Dallas $705,000
2010 Álvaro Saborío CRC Real Salt Lake $405,625
2011 Eric Hassli FRA Vancouver Whitecaps FC $790,000
2011 Fabián Castillo COL FC Dallas $56,250
2011 Diego Chará COL Portland Timbers $193,750
2011 Torsten Frings GER Toronto FC $2,413,667
2011 Danny Koevermans NED Toronto FC $1,563,323
2011 Robbie Keane IRE Los Angeles Galaxy $3,417,243
2012 Mauro Rosales ARG Seattle Sounders FC $225,000
2012 Hamdi Salihi ALB D.C. United $487,460
2012 Kris Boyd SCO Portland Timbers $1,515,000
2012 Freddy Adu USA Philadelphia Union $519,000
2012 Shalrie Joseph GRN New England Revolution $554,333
2012 Javier Morales ARG Real Salt Lake $477,500
2012 Barry Robson SCO Vancouver Whitecaps FC $n/a
2012 Marco Di Vaio ITA Montreal Impact $n/a
2012 Oscar Boniek García HND Houston Dynamo $n/a
2012 Jerry Bengtson HND New England Revolution $n/a

Anyone following the league able to say he's getting on?

Oat23

Gillington wrote: »

Anyone following the league able to say he's getting on?

He is playing well and had a good game against Toronto which he scored a nice goal in.

He also almost set up a great goal with a superb flick and an inch perfect cross but the Philly striker couldn't finish it.

Still only 22 years old. If he stays grounded he can improve even more and get back in the US team.

carbon nanotube

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Marquee player list from wikipedia.



Year Signed Player Nation Current club 2012 Guaranteed Compensation [12]
2007 David Beckham ENG Los Angeles Galaxy $4,000,000
2009 Julian de Guzman CAN FC Dallas $1,910,746
2010 Landon Donovan USA Los Angeles Galaxy $2,400,000
2010 Thierry Henry FRA New York Red Bulls $5,600,000
2010 Álvaro Fernández URU Seattle Sounders FC $366,667
2010 Rafael Márquez MEX New York Red Bulls $4,600,000
2010 Fredy Montero COL Seattle Sounders FC $756,000
2011 David Ferreira COL FC Dallas $705,000
2010 Álvaro Saborío CRC Real Salt Lake $405,625
2011 Eric Hassli FRA Vancouver Whitecaps FC $790,000
2011 Fabián Castillo COL FC Dallas $56,250
2011 Diego Chará COL Portland Timbers $193,750
2011 Torsten Frings GER Toronto FC $2,413,667
2011 Danny Koevermans NED Toronto FC $1,563,323
2011 Robbie Keane IRE Los Angeles Galaxy $3,417,243
2012 Mauro Rosales ARG Seattle Sounders FC $225,000
2012 Hamdi Salihi ALB D.C. United $487,460
2012 Kris Boyd SCO Portland Timbers $1,515,000
2012 Freddy Adu USA Philadelphia Union $519,000
2012 Shalrie Joseph GRN New England Revolution $554,333
2012 Javier Morales ARG Real Salt Lake $477,500
2012 Barry Robson SCO Vancouver Whitecaps FC $n/a
2012 Marco Di Vaio ITA Montreal Impact $n/a
2012 Oscar Boniek García HND Houston Dynamo $n/a
2012 Jerry Bengtson HND New England Revolution $n/a

who the hell are half them, clearly people only go to MLS when they are crocked and want retirement funds.

nothing wrong with that in itself, but its a crap league and has been for some time.

Fight_Night

carbon nanotube wrote: »

nothing wrong with that in itself, but its a crap league and has been for some time.

Soccer is a very young sport in the US and growing rapidly. The standard at the moment is low but it is improving, and since 2007 the league has been expanding and efforts have been made to improve.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

carbon nanotube wrote: »

who the hell are half them, clearly people only go to MLS when they are crocked and want retirement funds.

nothing wrong with that in itself, but its a crap league and has been for some time.

In fairness, the league was only formed in the 90s.

Mr.Nice Guy

Fight_Night wrote: »

Soccer is a very young sport in the US and growing rapidly. The standard at the moment is low but it is improving, and since 2007 the league has been expanding and efforts have been made to improve.

There was a cracker of a game on live last night on ESPN between LA Galaxy and Portland Timbers. Finished 5-3 to Galaxy with Keane and Beckham getting two goals each. It was real end to end stuff. One of the most entertaining games I've seen in a while.

Xavi6

carbon nanotube wrote: »

who the hell are half them, clearly people only go to MLS when they are crocked and want retirement funds.

nothing wrong with that in itself, but its a crap league and has been for some time.

Crap in comparison to the Super Sky Sunday Sesh league? Yes.

However in its own right, MLS is a very good league and is getting better year on year. Can't ask for much more given it's still relatively new.

Justin10

Rafael Marquez is the biggest legend for the amount of money he is earning over there. He is making more then Becks this year.

MrStuffins

Rochey18 wrote: »

Rafael Marquez is the biggest legend for the amount of money he is earning over there. He is making more then Becks this year.

Only in "wages".

You can be very very sure that the "wages" portion of Becks' income is only a fraction of what he's actually earning from playing there!

wonderfullife

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

There was a cracker of a game on live last night on ESPN between LA Galaxy and Portland Timbers. Finished 5-3 to Galaxy with Keane and Beckham getting two goals each. It was real end to end stuff. One of the most entertaining games I've seen in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmmpnk5WGBk

absolutely cracking atmosphere!!!!!!

Oat23

Timbers and Sounders both have great fans. The atmosphere is always brilliant.

Mr.Nice Guy

wonderfullife wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmmpnk5WGBk

absolutely cracking atmosphere!!!!!!

I loved the celebration between Keane and Beckham at 2.32 after Beckham's goal. It's great.

~Rebel~

carbon nanotube wrote: »

who the hell are half them, clearly people only go to MLS when they are crocked and want retirement funds.

nothing wrong with that in itself, but its a crap league and has been for some time.

Other way around really, it's gotten progressively better.

wonderfullife wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmmpnk5WGBk

absolutely cracking atmosphere!!!!!!

Been to the Home Depot area for Galaxy matches 6 times this season, and unfortunately the atmosphere is nowhere near as good. It's a very family friendly atmosphere, but there's just not really any great buzz. Also it just irks me hearing football phrases in an American accent...it just sounds...wrong...

The quality in fairness though is a lot better than I'd expected. Galaxy play some very good attacking football on the ground at times. They seem to have stopped playing Edson Buddle too, which is good. Has all the physical attributes to be good, but just seems really stupid in his play. He tends to get in Robbie's way a lot too.

carbon nanotube

Xavi6 wrote: »

Crap in comparison to the Super Sky Sunday Sesh league? Yes.

However in its own right, MLS is a very good league and is getting better year on year. Can't ask for much more given it's still relatively new.

no idea as i'm not a member of the sky sports top 4/5 whatever they are now.

carbon nanotube

MrStuffins wrote: »

Only in "wages".

You can be very very sure that the "wages" portion of Becks' income is only a fraction of what he's actually earning from playing there!

aye, i still got beckham instinct aftershave and shower stuffs from a christmas present last year..(or whatever the hell its called)

just used the shower gel today, i was stuck for anything else:o

suppose i can say i washed my balls with golden balls at the end of the day.

Francie Barrett

Oatesy23 wrote: »

He is playing well and had a good game against Toronto which he scored a nice goal in.

He also almost set up a great goal with a superb flick and an inch perfect cross but the Philly striker couldn't finish it.

Still only 22 years old. If he stays grounded he can improve even more and get back in the US team.

Half a million dollars seems like nothing for a professional footballer though. Would have thought he could have got a little better at a lower league Premier/Championship team?

Melion

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Half a million dollars seems like nothing for a professional footballer though. Would have thought he could have got a little better at a lower league Premier/Championship team?

I wouldn't turn down 10k a week

Seaneh

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Half a million dollars seems like nothing for a professional footballer though. Would have thought he could have got a little better at a lower league Premier/Championship team?

He wouldn't have been wanted by an English cub, his European Adventure was a total disaster.

flyswatter

Hopefully Adu does well, he's had a rough old time of it.