Anti-women threads in AH

LordSmeg

LordSmeg wrote: »

You do realise slut doesnt just mean promiscuous right ? Its a derogatory term. So what about being promiscuous makes a person of less worth than someone who isnt ?

I never said it was.

Tombi!

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because someone has sex and falls pregnant doesnt make them a whore. So of course not!

And it would be a little mean for 50 people from a message board to meet up in real life with the express intention to approach a young teen mother to call her a whore to her face.

You're avoiding the question (I think), I'm not too sure with the "of course not!".

So a simple yes or no: would you be fine with me and 99 other people calling her a slut to her face if we felt she was one?

efb

Deleted User wrote: »

Just because someone has sex and falls pregnant doesnt make them a whore. So of course not!

And it would be a little mean for 50 people from a message board to meet up in real life with the express intention to approach a young teen mother to call her a whore to her face.

is it ok online?

syndeyfife

syndeyfife wrote: »

As a female, I laugh at it.

I genuinely think its funny to read. Same as if it was about men. People are so quick to be offended. I'm yet to read something on here that remotely offends me, but if I did I just wouldn't read it.

I was on a forum before this and left because the majority of the women were so touchy. Came here and thought, ok good, my kind of humour. Most things are fair game.

It's all banter in my opinion. Have to say when I read that post about punching her in the face I laughed out loud. Of course it was a joke but it made me laugh. I was in an abusive relationship for years and still saw the funny side. Shock humour.

Unless I'm twisted in the head...in which case disregard this post :P

Awwwww...thats what I wanted to say ages ago but couldnt phrase it right.

Sea Filly

Wibbs wrote: »

It might well be why less Irish women go for foreign guys because they won't take shíte like that?

No, Wibbs, they don't go for us because we're ugly, remember? :pac:

Tombi!

Deleted User wrote: »

Awwwww...thats what I wanted to say ages ago but couldnt phrase it right.

You're a female that was in an abusive relationship?

eviltwin

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

You're avoiding the question (I think), I'm not too sure with the "of course not!".

So a simple yes or no: would you be fine with me and 99 other people calling her a slut to her face if we felt she was one?

But why would you think she was one? Someone who has a child has physical prove they have had sex but that's all it is, it doesn't mean they have slept with everyone in town or have a casual attitude to sex. You could say its evidence of bad luck more than anything else.

Tombi!

eviltwin wrote: »

But why would you think she was one? Someone who has a child has physical prove they have had sex but that's all it is, it doesn't mean they have slept with everyone in town or have a casual attitude to sex. You could say its evidence of bad luck more than anything else.

No no no. you're all misunderstanding. That guy (woman?) said they'd be fine with their daughter/mother/sister/etc being called a slut or slag if they are one.

So, if I felt they were one, logically, he's fine with me calling them one.

I'm not thinking or calling her one. I'm asking if I honestly felt she was one, could me and 99 people who feel the same, go ahead and call her a slut to her face and have the post be fine with it.

Brutal Deluxe

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

You're avoiding the question (I think), I'm not too sure with the "of course not!".

So a simple yes or no: would you be fine with me and 99 other people calling her a slut to her face if we felt she was one?

It would depend on why you thought she was a whore.

You suggested that it was because she was a teen mother who was drunk one night and fell pregnant.

Is that why you would call her a whore?

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

No no no. you're all misunderstanding. That guy (woman?) said they'd be fine with their daughter/mother/sister/etc being called a slut or slag if they are one.

So, if I felt they were one, logically, he's fine with me calling them one.

I'm not thinking or calling her one. I'm asking if I honestly felt she was one, could me and 99 people who feel the same, go ahead and call her a slut to her face and have the post be fine with it.

...that really does mean that you're calling the 14 year old a slut/slag though. I think your example has backfired a wee bit.

Tombi!

Deleted User wrote: »

It would depend on why you thought she was a whore.

You suggested that it was because she was a teen mother who was drunk one night and fell pregnant.

Is that why you would call her a whore?

Yes! Exactly that. In this scenario me and my 99 other friends all firmly believe the girl is a whore/slut/slag for getting pregnant at 14 and not knowing who she slept with.

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

...that really does mean that you're calling the 14 year old a slut/slag though. I think your example has backfired a wee bit.

Yes, scenario wise. In reality I wouldn't dream of calling a child a slut.

Sea Filly

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Ever been to Prague? There's women working in McDonalds that would put the Irish models to shame.

Yup, I have. Also, never said there weren't good-looking women there. Just have seen evidence to the contrary that our best-looking are their average. Bull. Shít.

fran17

efb wrote: »

I never said anything about a woman

not in as many words no,but if you take the nature of this thread and your quote then i think anyone can see what your underhanded tactic is

eviltwin

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Yes! Exactly that. In this scenario me and my 99 other friends all firmly believe the girl is a whore/slut/slag for getting pregnant at 14 and not knowing who she slept with.



Yes, scenario wise. In reality I wouldn't dream of calling a child a slut.

I think if that was a real life case I would be looking at why a 14 yr old is acting that way rather than firing insults at her.

Tombi!

eviltwin wrote: »

I think if that was a real life case I would be looking at why a 14 yr old is acting that way rather than firing insults at her.

She's a slut, that's why she acts that way. I assume the poster would be fine with me calling her that because I feel she's a slut.

efb

fran17 wrote: »

not in as many words no,but if you take the nature of this thread and your quote then i think anyone can see what your underhanded tactic is

not in any words

what underhand tactic?

VEN

dark crystal wrote: »

Damn straight! No Irish man could possibly come close to my lovely Luigi.

ah i knew there was something more to it. what an awful generalisation to make.

eviltwin

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

She's a slut, that's why she acts that way. I assume the poster would be fine with me calling her that because I feel she's a slut.

But why do you feel the need to judge? Does it really bother you that much how much sex other people are getting?

Tombi!

efb wrote: »

I think (I could be wrong) his point is that he made the joke and he thought it was funny. And that you're taking it out of that context and making it look like he makes rape jokes 24/7

Though it was still pretty messy to make the rape joke in a thread about rape.

Brutal Deluxe

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Yes! Exactly that. In this scenario me and my 99 other friends all firmly believe the girl is a whore/slut/slag for getting pregnant at 14 and not knowing who she slept with.



Yes, scenario wise. In reality I wouldn't dream of calling a child a slut.

Scenario wise, I would despise you and your 99 friends. and wouldnt be happy.

Ridiculous question really.

midlandsmissus

eviltwin wrote: »

But why would you think she was one? Someone who has a child has physical prove they have had sex but that's all it is, it doesn't mean they have slept with everyone in town or have a casual attitude to sex. You could say its evidence of bad luck more than anything else.

Hi eviltwin, you need to go back a few pages

Brutal Deluxe is saying we shouldn't call perople slags/sluts.

He's now in a conversation with some-one who said we shouldn't be offfended by the term slag/slut, and he asked him 'would you be okay if some-one called your family member a slut', the person said 'yes if they were one',

And now he is using the analog of 'would you be okay if your teenage daughter got pregnant and everyone called her a slut'...really just trying to make the poster see how the term could be offensive.

Tombi!

eviltwin wrote: »

But why do you feel the need to judge? Does it really bother you that much how much sex other people are getting?

What? No. He said he's fine with his daughter being called a slut if she is one.

I gave him a scenario and said that me and 99 other people feel she is one in this scenario so I want to know if he's sticking to his word and would be fine with her being called a slut.

Deleted User wrote: »

Scenario wise, I would despise you and your 99 friends. and wouldnt be happy.

Ridiculous question really.

Okay but would you tell me to stop it? Would you be offended in any way, shape or form? I mean she's clearly a slut getting pregnant to some random guy because she was too drunk and gave it up to any guy who wants it.

eviltwin

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

What? No. He said he's fine with his daughter being called a slut if she is one.

I gave him a scenario and said that me and 99 other people feel she is one in this scenario so I want to know if he's sticking to his word and would be fine with her being called a slut.



Okay but would you tell me to stop it? Would you be offended in any way, shape or form? I mean she's clearly a slut getting pregnant to some random guy because she was too drunk and gave it up to any guy who wants it.

So you would assume because she is a pregnant 14 yr old she is a slut? I would see a vulnerable child who needs help.

Tombi!

eviltwin wrote: »

So you would assume because she is a pregnant 14 yr old she is a slut? I would see a vulnerable child who needs help.

You're missing the point completely. I'll PM you to explain it.

Brutal Deluxe

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

What? No. He said he's fine with his daughter being called a slut if she is one.

I gave him a scenario and said that me and 99 other people feel she is one in this scenario so I want to know if he's sticking to his word and would be fine with her being called a slut.

So you are saying that a 14 year old who gets pregnant is a slut or not? Or is this a "scenario"? Because I don't feel that a 14 year old who falls pregnant is a slut, I would not be ok for her to be branded one. So yeah, I'll stick to my word.

dark crystal

VEN wrote: »

ah i knew there was something more to it. what an awful generalisation to make.

'Twas merely a jokey retort on my part... there isn't actually a hot, dinner making Luigi in my life.

Fr_Dougal

As a priest I find those religion bashing threads appalling, now we all know that some priests are bad m'kay, but the majority are grand. Let's ban people that say anything bad about priests.
In fact let's have one huge discussion thread where we can all have a say in what we want banned from discussion. It's much handier than discussing how silly someone's point of view is and that way we can talk about more interesting stuff like skinny jeans and going to the zoo.

efb

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I think (I could be wrong) his point is that he made the joke and he thought it was funny. And that you're taking it out of that context and making it look like he makes rape jokes 24/7

Though it was still pretty messy to make the rape joke in a thread about rape.

My point being, if he thought that was funny, appropriate, it doesn't surprise me he wouldn't find anything wrong with the slag one.

eviltwin

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

You're missing the point completely. I'll PM you to explain it.

No I get what you are saying, I'm saying in the context of the picture you have painted I wouldn't call a 14 yr old a slut. It would be the last thing I would call her or him. I think its a bad example to use.

Tombi!

Deleted User wrote: »

So you are saying that a 14 year old who gets pregnant is a slut or not? Or is this a "scenario"? Because I don't feel that a 14 year old who falls pregnant is a slut, I would not be ok for her to be branded one. So yeah, I'll stick to my word.

So you don't think it's acceptable for me to call a 14 year old that's pregnant a slut if she's your daughter?

You just went back on what you said. You offended a few posters and you clearly offended yourself by using the word yourself.

fran17

efb wrote: »

not in any words

what underhand tactic?

look if you cant see or ignore the link between the two then i aint spending the next half hour explaining it.shame on you

efb

fran17 wrote: »

look if you cant see or ignore the link between the two then i aint spending the next half hour explaining it.shame on you

I was explaining how I came to understand your moral reasoning

Scioch

Deleted User wrote: »

I never said it was.

Yes you did, you said you have no problem with someone acting in that manner being called a slut/slag. Which is a derogatory term. So if you think that behavior warrants being called those things you think they must be of less worth.

Or are you arguing that its ok to call someone something without even knowing what it is your saying ?

VEN

efb wrote: »

how about we drop sluts full stop?

sure, we can drop them off at the nearest bus stop, they're not staying in my fancy beamer.

LordSmeg

LordSmeg wrote: »

Yes you did, you said you have no problem with someone acting in that manner being called a slut/slag. Which is a derogatory term. So if you think that behavior warrants being called those things you think they must be of less worth.

Or are you arguing that its ok to call someone something without even knowing what it is your saying ?

So insults in general should be outlawed?

efb

Deleted User wrote: »

So insults in general should be outlawed?

people should be aware of the message that words that they use conveys perhaps?

Brutal Deluxe

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

So you don't think it's acceptable for me to call a 14 year old that's pregnant a slut if she's your daughter?

You just went back on what you said. You offended a few posters and you clearly offended yourself by using the word yourself.

Nope, not because she is my daughter in your "scenario", just because I feel that you are wrong in your reasoning for calling her a slut.

Tombi!

Deleted User wrote: »

So insults in general should be outlawed?

It depends. Are we allowed to call your mother a slut if we feel she's acting like one?

Of course not.

Just be careful with what you say. That's all you have to do.

midlandsmissus

I chatted to one of the mods, and they are going to have a discussion about the issue in the mod's forum.

Not many mods on today as it's Sunday, so will probably be tomorrow.

Tombi!

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope, not because she is my daughter in your "scenario", just because I feel that you are wrong in your reasoning for calling her a slut.

There you go! And a lot of us didn't think it was fine to call the other person's roomate a slut or a slag.

Same situation.

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

It depends. Are we allowed to call your mother a slut if we feel she's acting like one?

Of course not.

Just be careful with what you say. That's all you have to do.

What if he feels that you're allowed to do things, even if, shocking though this is, he doesn't like them?

eviltwin

Why would anyone use the word slut at all? I don't understand it. Fair enough if you don't like the way someone behaves but to actually call them names over it? Does it make people feel better about themselves or what? How bloody childish is that?

Tombi!

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I chatted to one of the mods, and they are going to have a discussion about the issue in the mod's forum.

Not many mods on today as it's Sunday, so will probably be tomorrow.

Serious response: well done
Joke response: I've been arguing to get the pictures of Pamela Anderson put up on the walls and they said no Did you bribe them?

Scioch

Deleted User wrote: »

So insults in general should be outlawed?

Your the one trying to validate the insult and pass it off as an accurate description. Your saying sleeping around warrants being insulted and called derogatory names. If thats your opinion then you must think there is something wrong with what they are doing.

Be so kind as to explain why what they do is wrong and warrants being insulted for it. Or I'll drop back to my original assumption which is that you actually didnt know the meaning of the words you are using.

Tombi!

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

What if he feels that you're allowed to do things, even if, shocking though this is, he doesn't like them?

That doesn't mean you have to use insults to describe things.

midlandsmissus

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope, not because she is my daughter in your "scenario", just because I feel that you are wrong in your reasoning for calling her a slut.

People used to use the term slut in the scenario of young unmarried mothers just as much as women sleeping around. A horrible term in both cases. Nobody would be happy with their family member called a slut, and nobody is happy being called a slut/slag. Horrible, horrible terms.

midlandsmissus

I'm really happy to see men joining in the debate here, and seeing that a term that doesn't directly apply to them can be offensive to another group. That's not easy to do sometimes.

It's all about having a good place for everyone .

Tombi!

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I'm really happy to see men joining in the debate here, and seeing that a term that doesn't directly apply to them can be offensive to another group. That's not easy to do sometimes.

It's all about having a good place for everyone .

It was easy enough. A girl I knew had a simillar experience to the scenario I posted. So I just remembered how horrible it was to he being called a slut when she got pregnant (long story but not gonna tell it).

I don't think anyone is actually ignorant of the offensive nature. They're just oblivious and have to think for a little bit and then it clicks "oh right, it's offensive because of X reason".

Abdul Abulbul Amir

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

That doesn't mean you have to use insults to describe things.

Think about it this way. The term for the intellectually disabled has changed several times, as a direct attempt to make it more acceptable/less derogatory. It's been idiot, handicap, mentally retarded, special and probably others. Each time the new term came to be an insult in it's own right. Why? Because it has nothing to do with the term, it's the underlying concept that people are using as an insult.

You could replace the word slut with anything else, including a phrase rather than a single word, and it'll eventually take on the same negativity, because it has the same meaning. What it comes down to is how people feel about promiscuity, in its male and female variants.

Tombi!

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

Think about it this way. The term for the intellectually disabled has changed several times, as a direct attempt to make it more acceptable/less derogatory. It's been idiot, handicap, mentally retarded, special and probably others. Each time the new term came to be an insult in it's own right. Why? Because it has nothing to do with the term, it's the underlying concept that people are using as an insult.

You could replace the word slut with anything else, including a phrase rather than a single word, and it'll eventually take on the same negativity, because it has the same meaning. What it comes down to is how people feel about promiscuity, in its male and female variants.

And language evolves. We make it evolve. So when the new word gets too insulting to a gender, we change it.
Or, better yet we say: that person sleeps with a lot of people.