London 2012 Megathread [Part 1]

el diablo

kfallon wrote: »

I'll give you a medal meself if Derval gets one

Agreed, she's no chance. And she already has an excuse at the ready.

leahyl

cgpg5 wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

Maybe Derval? Prob not though since this is her 3rd Olympics and still hasn't got a medal

Not a chance

I know - that was my attempt at sarcasm! Not very good I know!

cgpg5

Colmo52 wrote: »

Cian O Connor and the Polish guy in the Canoeing have a good chance to medal.

Equestrian is insanely unpredictable though. There is no way O'Connor will get a medal though imo. We'll finish with the 4. All in boxing

Sea Filly

donfers wrote: »

I don't know if it's an Irish thing or what but we seem to have issues performing under pressure, maybe the reason is simply because we so rarely put ourselves in a position to win where pressure exists and for that at least we should acknowledge how well Annalise has done so a very impressive, predictable and painful fourth it is

My Dad thinks we just lack focus, we have a "Ah shure, I'm just happy to be here" kind of attitude, no killer extinct. Except Sonia, who had it in spades.

kfallon

leahyl wrote: »

Lol!!

I dont mean to be pessimistic but we live in Ireland not Dreamland! She's like the female version of TJ Kearns, she'll prob run a new National record without troubling the podium

el diablo

Katie will win today, no doubt about it. And her opponent has only had a day's rest since fighting yesterday.

Tinie

We could get a gold or 2 though with Katie obviously and perhaps John joe. Lets be optimistic!

donfers

Sea Filly wrote: »

My Dad thinks we just lack focus, we have a "Ah shure, I'm just happy to be here" kind of attitude, no killer extinct. Except Sonia, who had it in spades.

roy keane is famous for saying we're terrible for it too and i think you dad and keano have a point unfortunately

Sea Filly

el diablo wrote: »

Agreed, she's no chance. And she already has an excuse at the ready.

What is it?

Colmo52

cgpg5 wrote: »

Equestrian is insanely unpredictable though. There is no way O'Connor will get a medal though imo. We'll finish with the 4. All in boxing

We'll wait and see.

WumBuster

Sea Filly wrote: »

My Dad thinks we just lack focus, we have a "Ah shure, I'm just happy to be here" kind of attitude, no killer extinct. Except Sonia, who had it in spades.

I dont know enough about the sailing but if it was any other sport and that happened you'd say that she bottled it

Tinie

Sea Filly wrote: »

My Dad thinks we just lack focus, we have a "Ah shure, I'm just happy to be here" kind of attitude, no killer extinct. Except Sonia, who had it in spades.

Wait until you see Katie in an hour. You will feel her punches through the TV.

BraziliaNZ

Sea Filly wrote: »

My Dad thinks we just lack focus, we have a "Ah shure, I'm just happy to be here" kind of attitude, no killer extinct. Except Sonia, who had it in spades.

Absolutely. NZ have the same population, similar people and landscape. Currently ahead of Aussie in the medals table. They're winners, we're not!

Sea Filly

donfers wrote: »

roy keane is famous for saying we're terrible for it too and i think you dad and keano have a point unfortunately

I don't get it, how do they get to be athletes without it? I'm no athlete, but I get that killer instinct even if it's only a game of Scrabble or pool. You NEED it!

Barbieliveshere

Just switched the boxing on there! What time is katies fight?

Jesus Shaves

Sea Filly wrote: »

I don't get it, how do they get to be athletes without it? I'm no athlete, but I get that killer instinct even if it's only a game of Scrabble or pool. You NEED it!

They have better training facilities and coaches

Sea Filly

Tinie wrote: »

Wait until you see Katie in an hour. You will feel her punches through the TV.

That would actually be AWESOME!!!!

WhatNowForUs?

el diablo wrote: »

kfallon wrote: »

I'll give you a medal meself if Derval gets one

Agreed, she's no chance. And she already has an excuse at the ready.

To be fair to Derval, she does'nt do excuses. She produces at every major comp. Her level is just not at the top class

leahyl

kfallon wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

Lol!!

I dont mean to be pessimistic but we live in Ireland not Dreamland! She's like the female version of TJ Kearns, she'll prob run a new National record without troubling the podium

Ah yeah I know, she hasn't a chance! I was joking! You're not pessimistic just realistic ;-)

Sea Filly

Jesus Shaves wrote: »

They have better training facilities and coaches

Many athletes train in different countries, including the Irish.

Diego Maradona

Barbieliveshere wrote: »

Just switched the boxing on there! What time is katies fight?

30 bells past 14 hours

Pudsy33

Tinie wrote: »

We could get a gold or 2 though with Katie obviously and perhaps John joe. Lets be optimistic!

Our other two boxers are top notch too, we have every reason to be optimistic

westendgirlie

Will Katie be fighting one of these girlies WHEN she gets through to next round?

el diablo

Sea Filly wrote: »

What is it?

She claims to have a back injury.

Jesus Shaves

Barbieliveshere wrote: »

Just switched the boxing on there! What time is katies fight?

Half 2

Tinie

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Absolutely. NZ have the same population, similar people and landscape. Currently ahead of Aussie in the medals table. They're winners, we're not!

You can argue though that the new Zealanders are more "outdoor" and active in general compared to irish people, so play more sports, and their weather helps also, and you can argue that the government here is to blame also for not creating enough sporting infrastructure and programs for youth.

Thats the excuse im using anyway :pac:


Also dont forget about a large percentage of Irish people just play hurling/gaelic.

flyswatter

keano_afc wrote: »

Yeah the Aussies have had a pretty poor games so far.

Then again, if they could run fast in the first place, they wouldnt be Australians.

Second time ive heard that, I don't get it?

Colmo52

Aussie guy in the Mens Trap Shooting just shot all 125 targets. Joint world record.

BraziliaNZ

Tinie wrote: »

You can argue though that the new Zealanders are more "outdoor" and active in general compared to irish people, so play more sports, and their weather helps also, and you can argue that the government here is to blame also for not creating enough sporting infrastructure and programs for youth.

Thats the excuse im using anyway :pac:


Also dont forget about a large percentage of Irish people just play hurling/gaelic.

At least they excel in a couple of sports internationally though. Rugby and sailing I can think of. Have Irish ever won the America's cup?

Aidric

leahyl wrote: »

Omg poor Annalise - gutted for her :-( still though best sailing result for Ireland for 30 years so not too bad :-)

Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

Pudsy33

flyswatter wrote: »

keano_afc wrote: »

Yeah the Aussies have had a pretty poor games so far.

Then again, if they could run fast in the first place, they wouldnt be Australians.

Second time ive heard that, I don't get it?

They are criminals and all that

leahyl

Aidric wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

Omg poor Annalise - gutted for her :-( still though best sailing result for Ireland for 30 years so not too bad :-)

Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

Oh be quiet

Jesus Shaves

Sea Filly wrote: »

Many athletes train in different countries, including the Irish.

Well lack of talent so, that and the fact that most Irish would rather play gaa than run 100m or any other track and field sports

westendgirlie

Aidric wrote: »

Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

to be fair, sailing is an unpredictable sport due to the weather in comparison to running, boxing, gymnastics, etc

patmac

Whats with the Irish finishing in 4 th. unlucky, hope Katy can pick us back up again.

cgpg5

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

At least they excel in a couple of sports internationally though. Rugby and sailing I can think of. Have Irish ever won the America's cup?

If Gaelic football was to theoretically become an olympics sport in 2020 would we even win?

Colmo52

Cian O Connor on in a few minutes.

Tinie

Maybe we can lure the irish lad back here from Kenya to train our runners for Rio...:pac:

Fratton Fred

Aidric wrote: »

Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

For a competitor who gets absolutely feck all support in her chosen event, Annalise has excelled and it is a great performance from her. She deserves a lot of credit.

I'm gutted for her, she has done very well.

Mint Sauce

westendgirlie wrote: »

Will Katie be fighting one of these girlies WHEN she gets through to next round?

The Boxing thats live now on the Beeb? No, thats a lower division I think.

westendgirlie

cgpg5 wrote: »

If Gaelic football was to theoretically become an olympics sport in 2020 would we even win?

Don't be silly......China would

WumBuster

Tinie wrote: »

You can argue though that the new Zealanders are more "outdoor" and active in general compared to irish people, so play more sports, and their weather helps also, and you can argue that the government here is to blame also for not creating enough sporting infrastructure and programs for youth.

Thats the excuse im using anyway :pac:


Also dont forget about a large percentage of Irish people just play hurling/gaelic.

I agree. I think our inward looking mentality and suspicion of other countries and ''foreign games'' and so forth has cost us in so far as producing top athletes. We should be winning a good bit more, and competing in more sports. But the lack of organisational and infrastructure, or the will for it, isnt there. The fact that a lot of our best athletes are from Northern Ireland is no co-incidence either.

Pudsy33

Aidric wrote: »

leahyl wrote: »

Omg poor Annalise - gutted for her :-( still though best sailing result for Ireland for 30 years so not too bad :-)

Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

She hardly melted, she was under huge pressure. There are many variables in sailing, it's not like a runner doing well below his personal best. She was ranked below the 3 medalists, so in fact she overperformed. She did incredibly well, if we were told we would have our best finish in sailing in 30 years before the Olympic we'd have been delighted. Im sure she did her best to win, like all our athletes, and they don't need people like you talking them down.

flyswatter

cgpg5 wrote: »

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

At least they excel in a couple of sports internationally though. Rugby and sailing I can think of. Have Irish ever won the America's cup?

If Gaelic football was to theoretically become an olympics sport in 2020 would we even win?

Yeah, we'd win that until the Chinese got to grips with it!

cgpg5

westendgirlie wrote: »

Don't be silly......China would

They'd have that 7 foot something basketball fella as the target man on the edge of the square! They'd run riot

keith16

Tinie wrote: »

You can argue though that the new Zealanders are more "outdoor" and active in general compared to irish people, so play more sports, and their weather helps also, and you can argue that the government here is to blame also for not creating enough sporting infrastructure and programs for youth.

Thats the excuse im using anyway :pac:


Also dont forget about a large percentage of Irish people just play hurling/gaelic.

The weather in NZ is no better or worse than it is here. Irish people don't like getting cold and wet. That's why we constantly complain about the weather.

Shryke

Murphy did well. I hope she doesn't beat herself up too much. Why is everyone getting snarky about medals all of a sudden? Cop on and enjoy the games.

BraziliaNZ

So as long as the GAA take most of our athletes we're not going to be winning anything internationally I guess. Oh well, maybe I can get a UK passport if I stay here long enough!

Ulysses Gaze

flyswatter wrote: »

Yeah, we'd win that until the Chinese got to grips with it!

The Aussies would probably beat us anyway!

donfers

Aidric wrote: »

Another Irish competitor melts when it matters but sure it's our best sailing result for 30 years so lets all pat ourselves on the back.

Your summary sums up everything that is wrong with the mentality of the majority of Irish competitors.

the happy-clappy types will have a go at you for saying that but we need more of the ruthless, "don't accept second best" attitude or we'll get nowhere every time except maybe a few medals for our boxers who actually have the right attitude and expect to win


to be honest, winning your first four races and then not medalling is a huge let-down

she of course did extremely well to raise all our expectations but unfortunatly failed to deliver when it counted