House Price Register

Balarrr Didiarr

Catweasel wrote: »

Anyone know what the column "Not Full Market Price" means?

Hi Catweasel, took this from the site...
In a small number of transactions included in the Register the price shown does not represent the full market price of the property concerned for a variety of reasons. For example, the price declared may reflect the retention of an interest in the property by the previous owner, or the fact that a part or fraction only of the property is being purchased; alternatively, the property may have been purchased at a reduced price under the Affordable Homes Scheme. In addition, in a very small number of cases, properties may be declared as purchased in exchange for other property, stocks and shares, etc. All such properties are marked **.

strandroad

Red Actor wrote: »

You could always download the file from the "Download" button on the welcome page and use normal text searching for the address...

This is helpful, thank you. Still going month by month but at least saves you captchaing each repetition of the address!

I checked a couple of address sold this year and last. They all seem to be around 10% under asking and they were not bad to start with.

Catweasel

There is an "all months" selection so you can download a full year

cork_south

mhge wrote: »

It's designed to be extremely difficult to use, or else the creators were completely unprofessional in their understanding how a web search is suspposed to work. As it is, to run the search you are need to enter the year and month of the transaction and a captcha code. If you don't know the exact month you will have to repeat the whole thing a dozen or two dozen times as both year and month fields are required.
So, conspiracy or ineptitude?...

The month is optional, just choose all months and you will get a .csv for the entire year

strandroad

cork_south wrote: »

The month is optional, just choose all months and you will get a .csv for the entire year

Very good! It's not available for search though, just download. But it helps. Nice to have a one big csv to peruse!

quad_red

mhge wrote: »

cork_south wrote: »

The month is optional, just choose all months and you will get a .csv for the entire year

Very good! It's not available for search though, just download. But it helps. Nice to have a one big csv to peruse!

How precise do you have to be in terms of area?

Do you have to enter a street address, a post code?

(on phone, can't mess around with til later)

I suppose what I'm asking is will a prospective buyer be able to observe prices in a certain area as time goes on without the ridiculous requirement to know the exact house numbers that have sold and the months/years that they sold in?

Edit: never mind. It's actually quite usable on a mobile.

Aw man. Real correct information on house prices.

From every stressed prospective buyer to every rotten EA in this country - **** YOU!!

Catweasel

Mmmmm. Real data. Drool.....

strandroad

quad_red wrote: »

How precise do you have to be in terms of area?

Do you have to enter a street address, a post code?

(on phone, can't mess around with til later)

I suppose what I'm asking is will a prospective buyer be able to observe prices in a certain area as time goes on without the ridiculous requirement to know the exact house numbers that have sold and the months/years that they sold in?

You can enter the area as well and it will give you a list of addresses - for a chosen month/year though. If you want to see them all you can download sheets.
The search is not very good then but the downloads make up for it.

quad_red

This probably merits a sticky on this forum now!



http://propertypriceregister.ie/website/npsra/ppr-home-en.html

uli84

any interesting findings anyone so far? Downloaded whole 2012, must come up with some sound plan of processing it

murphaph

lol, they've just this minute changed the functionality to allow you to filter more effectively.

VERY interesting stuff.

rev2.0

murphaph wrote: »

lol, they've just this minute changed the functionality to allow you to filter more effectively.

VERY interesting stuff.

Just spotted that!!

cork_south

Full 2012 List
http://www23.zippyshare.com/v/78141669/file.html

Full 2011 List
http://www29.zippyshare.com/v/85405340/file.html


With thanks to housefree on the Property Pin
http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=32161&start=1275

Glenbhoy

mhge wrote: »

It's designed to be extremely difficult to use, or else the creators were completely unprofessional in their understanding how a web search is suspposed to work. As it is, to run the search you are need to enter the year and month of the transaction and a captcha code. If you don't know the exact month you will have to repeat the whole thing a dozen or two dozen times as both year and month fields are required.
So, conspiracy or ineptitude?...

I'm very impressed tbh, will it not be pretty easy to manipulate. Stick it into editpad, make a few changes,to make it more sortable and then back into excel. But then, I'm an accountant who can't really see beyond using excel!!

I think I'm just amazed that they've actually done what they were supposed to and on time (just).

Blowfish

Glenbhoy wrote: »

I'm very impressed tbh, will it not be pretty easy to manipulate. Stick it into editpad, make a few changes,to make it more sortable and then back into excel. But then, I'm an accountant who can't really see beyond using excel!!

I think I'm just amazed that they've actually done what they were supposed to and on time (just).

Well the site itself is pretty awful. The data available as CSV though is definitely more useful.

I imagine it won't take long until someone has created a much better display/search database for it, including comparison with asking, mapped locations etc.

murphaph

Not all a case of the asking prices being higher than the selling prices:

Asking 239k

Sold for 270k

I have only looked for a few mins. Someone will doubtless come up with something that does all the comparisons properly.

leahyl

I've just noticed a house that sold in Ballinlough in Cork in April 2011 for 259k is up again on Daft for sale for 245k:eek: What happened there I wonder?!

hmmm

I like it. I'm not sure the point of the Captcha, but other than that it is easy to use. I'm particularly appreciative that you can download the entire csv and muck around with the data on your own PC.

cursai

T

hmmm wrote: »

I like it. I'm not sure the point of the Captcha, but other than that it is easy to use. I'm particularly appreciative that you can download the entire csv and muck around with the data on your own PC.

I think Captcha is there so estate agents cant spam the site.

efb

this is ultimate property porn!

flintash

08/03/12 NO. 37 LLEWELLYN COURT, RATHFARNHAM, DUBLIN 16 Cork €255,000.00 No Second-Hand Dwelling house /Apartment

Awesome!! Dublin 16 is in County cork from now on Then found C?bh - guess where is that? You guys cant do a single thing properly! But then again- type everything by hand into excel sheet , I guess .
No wonder I cant find two properties sold in my little village- it could be listed in Co Wiclow. Have to download the whole Ireland then. Interesting reading by theway.

Blowfish

It's amusing how even now, the asking prices are way off.

The property closest to me for sale is listed on Daft at ~60% above what the ones around are actually selling for

flintash

Most amazing founding so far: compare them and look on google street view. More expensive house is the last in the culdesac

19/08/10 18 Carrig Court, Carrignavar Cork €307,000.00 No
26/10/10 16 Carrigcourt, Carrignavar, Co Cork Cork €185,877.17 No

Two same identical bloody houses.

murphaph

So sad that we didn't have this 10 years ago. Might have prevented or reduced the effect of the property mania.

flintash

So what you recon, whats gonna happen to housing market now + Interest relief expiring in a month or so.

Blowfish

flintash wrote: »

So what you recon, whats gonna happen to housing market now + Interest relief expiring in a month or so.

I'd imagine it'll at the very least be far more consistent. There are some crazy differences in sale prices for very similar properties at the moment.

murphaph

flintash wrote: »

Most amazing founding so far: compare them and look on google street view. More expensive house is the last in the culdesac

19/08/10 18 Carrig Court, Carrignavar Cork €307,000.00 No
26/10/10 16 Carrigcourt, Carrignavar, Co Cork Cork €185,877.17 No

It's funny alright. The database will come into it's own when there are more sales recorded. 3 years of data just isn't enough to iron out anomalies properly.

In your example, perhaps one seller was an executor who didn't really care and took the first offer. Perhaps the other seller was able to find the world's most gullible buyer. Without more data so we can draw meaningful averages, it'll be hit and miss for a while, but an invaluable tool regardless.

Imagine you were the buyer of the more expensive one now though and you went and found that! You'd probably puke.

Blowfish

flintash wrote: »

08/03/12 NO. 37 LLEWELLYN COURT, RATHFARNHAM, DUBLIN 16 Cork €255,000.00 No Second-Hand Dwelling house /Apartment

Awesome!! Dublin 16 is in County cork from now on Then found C?bh - guess where is that? You guys cant do a single thing properly! But then again- type everything by hand into excel sheet , I guess .

Indeed. There are a few glaring anomalies.

Most expensive house is €125,172,000 in Co. Limerick, followed by €24,100,000 for a house in Rollins Villas in Sallynoggin, another in Limerick for €18,000,000, one in Carlow for €17,533,039 etc.

murphaph

Data uploaded by a kind soul on askaboutmoney.com

Monty Burnz

Blowfish wrote: »

Well the site itself is pretty awful. The data available as CSV though is definitely more useful.

I imagine it won't take long until someone has created a much better display/search database for it, including comparison with asking, mapped locations etc.

Amusing that the civil service, paid to do this sort of thing, don't bother, and rely on members of the public to do it for nothing.