looking for somebody who knows a lot about kundalini in ireland

barrymanilow

Hi there ,

I am in the middle of a bit of a kundalini crisis . It has risen up to my face and is giving me lockjaw and causing the muscles in my face to go into spasm , Im having very sudden changes in mood and energy . I am looking for a support network , forum or a holistic health practioner who has knowledge and maybe experience of spontaneous kundalini awakening who i could sit down and talk to .If anyone can point me in the right direction it would be great .

gillad

Theres not much support in ireland..The lockjaw and spasms are caused by blockages in your own energy system.The people in the energy centre will be able to help you and advise you.The guys are korean and know all about kundalini,give them a ring before you go.
http://energytemple.ie/about/pure-spirit-energy-temple-centre/private-treatments

lolo62

barrymanilow wrote: »

Hi there ,

I am in the middle of a bit of a kundalini crisis . It has risen up to my face and is giving me lockjaw and causing the muscles in my face to go into spasm , Im having very sudden changes in mood and energy . I am looking for a support network , forum or a holistic health practioner who has knowledge and maybe experience of spontaneous kundalini awakening who i could sit down and talk to .If anyone can point me in the right direction it would be great .

can i recommend a bodywork therapist...? i have been in body work for a couple of years and have come to realise that this way of working is just the western equivilant of eastern 'kundalini'...its all the same just energy

bodywork helps with developing the skills to hold it while living your day to day life so it dosnt reach the kind of crisis point that interferes with work etc, then being able to dip your toe in at will and allow the emergence to take place over a period of time

pm if you would like more info and dont worry the jaw is abit freaky but its just energy looking for a release, i dont have lock-jaw but a lot going on for me with my jaw at the moment

dkin

I've had a similar problem recently. I've been doing a lot of mantra work and there has been a weird constriction and tension around my temple and jaw the last few weeks. It's not Kundalini energy in my case (thankfully) as it doesn't have that really tingly intense feeling to it that I sometimes feel around the root chakra, it's simply an energy blockage. Mine has gotten a lot better as I've continued mantra meditation, initially I was pretty paranoid that I had a brain aneurysm or something similar. I've read that having a lot of tension in the jaw muscles is actually very common.

What sparked it off?

lolo62

dkin wrote: »

I've had a similar problem recently. I've been doing a lot of mantra work and there has been a weird constriction and tension around my temple and jaw the last few weeks. It's not Kundalini energy in my case (thankfully) as it doesn't have that really tingly intense feeling to it that I sometimes feel around the root chakra, it's simply an energy blockage. Mine has gotten a lot better as I've continued mantra meditation, initially I was pretty paranoid that I had a brain aneurysm or something similar. I've read that having a lot of tension in the jaw muscles is actually very common.

What sparked it off?

do you think the energy is there anyway or it becomes blocked as it is trying to move through?

it makes sense to me that the energy is there anyway and awareness becomes more attuned so it feels amplified..like there is a big arrow pointing you to it
but it also makes sense to me that the energy is moving from one piont to another and gets stuck along the way because the muscles contract and dont allow it...what do you think?

(btw my biggest problem in energy work is my head so feel free to ignore my question if it is too heady!)

gillad

dkin wrote: »

What sparked it off?

Trauma is often the cause of an awakening to your energy,but there has been a huge increase in the energy vibrations over the last year and its going to continue and get stronger so buckle up and enjoy the ride:)
Anger(often hidden)is usually the cause of jaw problems and should be released(best to do it alone)
When i first started to feel my own energy move i read all about "kundalini" and worried myself about how i would manage but i just let the energy flow and it took care of itself.I still wonder sometimes is it kundalini or not but it doesnt matter what you call it,its all the same energy and im delighted and lucky to be aware of of it:)

gillad

lolo62 wrote: »

do you think the energy is there anyway or it becomes blocked as it is trying to move through?

it makes sense to me that the energy is there anyway and awareness becomes more attuned so it feels amplified..like there is a big arrow pointing you to it
but it also makes sense to me that the energy is moving from one piont to another and gets stuck along the way because the muscles contract and dont allow it...what do you think?

(btw my biggest problem in energy work is my head so feel free to ignore my question if it is too heady!)

The energy is always there like you said and moving slowly at first but what happens is when the energy starts to speed up and
there is a blockage in the chakras or meridians then the energy has to move into the flesh/muscles to get past the problem.Muscles not set up to channel so much energy and thats when you feel it with spasms or shakes.The big arrow points and says "Theres a problem that needs to be fixed"

barrymanilow

I m not sure if anything really sparked it off it just kind of happened I am fairly sure that its kundalini because ive researched it a little and i have a lot of the symptoms , also before my jaw was ever a problem it was in my heart chest area that i felt it working then once it cleared that it came up into my throath and now its my jaws and cheeks and its really sore . Id love to know that im doing everything i can right to help the process or whatever and that im not leaving anything out . I see the big arrows pointing at my jaws telling me this is something that needs sorting but as of now i havent a clue what exactly that is or how to proceed .Will this eventually work itself out on its own or does it need me to do things ?I ld defo pm you lola thanks very much

dkin

Generally the advice is to 'ground' yourself. That means go outside barefoot, take a swim in the sea, sit on a park bench in nature etc. The idea is to link yourself into the natural energy field.

Have a look at the aypsite forum dealing with Kundalini problems for more info and maybe search a bit through the threads.

Ed The Equalizer

Have you got any relief?

I've had good success releasing huge amounts of tension from the head and jaw area following minor kundalini issues a few years ago. I've found that I can't just focus on one area though, I need to systematically work my way around the body.

A lot of my jaw issues came from teeth extractions for braces as a teenager.

barrymanilow

Taok wrote: »

Have you got any relief?

I've had good success releasing huge amounts of tension from the head and jaw area following minor kundalini issues a few years ago. I've found that I can't just focus on one area though, I need to systematically work my way around the body.

A lot of my jaw issues came from teeth extractions for braces as a teenager.

Hi i cant say I have really , I think its going to take a long time the tension in there is probably set deep for years and itll be a slow process of gradually getting it out . Theres a lot of toothe grinding and the muscles in my face are constantly flexing all the way up to my temples . Of course I wish there was a magic pill that would instantly release it all but ive accepted that isnt the way it works .

Interesting you mention braces i had a very medieval brace in my early teen s ive actually had nightmares recently that it is still in my mouth . It could possibly be connected .

Ive read that the jaw muscles are linked to the shoulders and psoas muscles so i hear what your saying about whole body work .If you could tell me what methods you used to release jaw tension id be very grateful pm me or share here if you like :-)

Ed The Equalizer

barrymanilow wrote: »

Interesting you mention braces i had a very medieval brace in my early teen s ive actually had nightmares recently that it is still in my mouth . It could possibly be connected .

You're not alone, I have regular nightmares about still having braces. At least once a month. I suspect there's a connection alright.

barrymanilow wrote: »

Ive read that the jaw muscles are linked to the shoulders and psoas muscles so i hear what your saying about whole body work .If you could tell me what methods you used to release jaw tension id be very grateful pm me or share here if you like :-)

Yes absolutely... I'll talk to you by PM :-)

lolo62

Came across this recently I found it helpful
http://www.blueearthawakening.com/internal-storms-jaw-releases.html

dkin

Yes absolutely... I'll talk to you by PM :-)

Any chance, you could post it here?

I'm going through very similar symptoms myself. I've been meditating a lot particularly mantra meditation and it just seems to be releasing more and more energy from my left temple. It's not necessarily uncomfortable but a very interesting sensation.

macco66

Hi. Suffering from the same symptoms myself for the last 3 years and it's comforting to hear of others going through it too. They began after a particularly strong meditative experience in May '09 and my gut has always told me it was something to do with the meditation. Anyway, sick and tired of it now and have come to realise that more meditation only fuels my symptoms (tension in jaw, pain/tension/tingling in left side of head moving into face, scalp, neck and shoulders and down spine).

After having gone down the more traditional routes (GP, dentist, physio massage, eye testing, orofacial pain specialist), I've realised I have to head down the energy healing route as I'm sure it's either a blockage of energy, or 'Kundalini Syndrome' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_syndrome). Anyway, I'll drop in to this thread and let you know if I get anywhere. Could be a good place where we can all learn from each other.

Best of luck!

jassjot.kaur

Sat Nam,

I just posted a thread about a forthcoming Open Day that might be worth coming to - there will be experienced kundalini yoga teachers in attendence who will be able to offer support and guidance.

HTH

barrymanilow

"After having gone down the more traditional routes (GP, dentist, physio massage, eye testing, orofacial pain specialist), I've realised I have to head down the energy healing route as I'm sure it's either a blockage of energy, or 'Kundalini Syndrome' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_syndrome). Anyway, I'll drop in to this thread and let you know if I get anywhere. Could be a good place where we can all learn from each other."


Good Idea ! let us know how you get on , here are a few resources that ive found useful anyway.

http://theyogalunchbox.co.nz/2011/05/09/suggestions-on-what-to-do-if-youve-had-a-kundalini-awakening/

http://www.kundaliniguide.com/10things.html

I also got a book on amazon called kundalini rising which was good

Id like to say though that I think a lot of the info out there on Kundalini is dubious at best . Possibly because it is a syndrome that has only just recently been recognised by the west .There is a lot of mis- information out there . For every website that says to lay of sexual activity youll find another recommending you engage in it heavily , for every support group that says avoid meat another will say eat lots it , some say avoid meditation at all costs others say do loads of it .Id love to chat with somebody who has come out the other end of an experience like this and knows their stuff becuase it is quite debilitating and confusing at times .

dkin

If I grip my cheek, thumb inside fingers on the outside, I've noticed that one side is substantially more tense and feels thicker than the other. This is due to muscle tension I think as I tend to clench my left jaw when doing something difficult and this has probably resulted in a larger muscle on one side. Might be something to check.

macco66

I agree with you there Barry, about conflicting/dubious info etc. The only consistent thing I've noticed, is that for head pressure and jaw tension, it ALWAYS seems to occur on the left side as dkin says above. Is that the same for you Barry?

FWIW, I really wish I'd gotten some advice or guidance when I started meditating. Had no idea that there could be adverse affects. Hoping to find someone now who can steer me right. I've tried contacting that energy center in rathfarnham that was mentioned in the 2nd post. Are they still open? They haven't replied to my email and their phone rings out.

By the way, thought this fella had a few interesting things to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq4NVSp35Rs

Some interesting bits in the comment section also. There's 2 follow up vids but I haven't gotten round to checking them out yet.

barrymanilow

Hi macco thanks for that video , yes its all the left side for me also its somthing to do with the signifigance of that side of the nervous system , your dead right a lot of practices such as meditation and yoga can kick of kundalini and ive never seen any warnings about it anywhere .It seems like it can be a shock if your unprepared or not seeking it . From what i have read the spasms from kundalini are cleansing and will eventually clear out the bulk of the tension in your body making you feel lighter and more peaceful supposedly , well thats what i tell myself to stop myself going nuts when its at its worst

dkin

I've always had a very weak Ida channel, this is easily checked by checking which nostril you breath out of most of the day. I tend to breath through my right nostril most of the time showing that the Ida energy channel is not flowing freely.

EDIT: From what I understand it is pretty normal in western society to be right side dominant

barrymanilow

http://www.mudrashram.com/kundaliniemergencies.html

another good resource

lolo62

I did a body work session on Tuesday...my jaw had been quite tight for a while before and after about half an hour if intense work my face has literally changed, my jaw has dropped about an inch...its amazing just how deep the energy is locked into the muscles
What I'm finding hardest at the moment is indigestion, its like there is an effervescent tablet sitting in my solar plexus, that and waking up in the middle of the nightfeeling like my legs are literally humming with energy
Another thing I find hard is that although I've moved what feels like an eternity of energy through my body it can seem like a never ending process
I'm glad I've reached a point now though where I can ground the energy because for a while it was pretty terrifying..

Ed The Equalizer

I've just read most of this website:

http://www.elcollie.com/

I was locked up in John of Gods for supposed psychosis when I went through a 3 month phase of hearing voices and feeling like I was being chased by demons but El Collie's story mentions many symptoms I had so I guess Kundalini was responsible.

There was one time I was watching a band playing in a bar and I focused really hard on the guitarist's guitar. Suddenly his pitch changed and it started to sound absolutely amazing. His face was priceless, it was like he had suddenly turned into Eddie Van Halen and for the rest of the song he was an absolute guitar god!

When it was over he just sat there in absolute awe, kissing his guitar. I don't even think anyone else in the small crowd twigged what was going on! But then, disaster... at the beginning of the next song he started playing and it was like the guitar had died. There was just a completely dull sound coming out of it. I was totally freaked out and left the bar. I guess at least he got to feel like that for once in his life and will never forget it!

One time, the voice said "that dog beside you is about to get very angry with you" - and sure he enough he immediately went crazy barking at me.

I was also noticing my house, particularly my bedroom was full of a really strong energy. One time I opened the door and it felt dazzling and there was a vortex in the centre of the room where I'd been standing trying to ground myself earlier in the day. I even brought a girl home one night and when she opened the bedroom door she fell backwards and vomited on the floor.

I used smoke a lot of weed and the last joint I smoked the voices started singing "the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire" and I felt my crown chakra blow wide open and all my energy flow out. Absolutely terrifying.

Towards the end when I was nearly suicidal, I ran 14km barefoot and then swam about 500m out to sea, late at night, and said to God "Take me or heal me". A tide drifted me towards a boat that was moored out there. I climbed up on the boat, exhausted, crying, but felt a lot of the bad stuff lifting. After an hour or so I was ready to swim back in but the tide was straight against me and I didn't think I'd make it. So I said "right God, if you want me alive you need to switch the tide". It instantly changed direction, and I dived in and swam back no problem.

I was away at the time but my mother came and rescued me and a week later I was in the lockup ward in John of Gods.

What's worked since then is no drink, no drugs, no yoga, no meditation, a quiet life, and many many hours of self myofascial release, particularly around the head area, using a completely self developed system. It creates room for the energy to flow in a more balanced way and now I feel like I'm undergoing a gradual controlled awakening. The energy is definitely increasing but it's all pleasant and enjoyable.

However, I do feel a bit trapped, like I've no choice but to continue to open up my body and accept the ever-increasing energy. If I don't I can see myself having the painful symptoms that others are discussing.

macco66

dkin wrote: »

If I grip my cheek, thumb inside fingers on the outside, I've noticed that one side is substantially more tense and feels thicker than the other. This is due to muscle tension I think as I tend to clench my left jaw when doing something difficult and this has probably resulted in a larger muscle on one side. Might be something to check.

If it's any comfort, I had an x-ray taken the other week and after years of tension in that area, there's no damage or ware to the jaw joint.

macco66

barrymanilow wrote: »

Hi macco thanks for that video , yes its all the left side for me also its somthing to do with the signifigance of that side of the nervous system , your dead right a lot of practices such as meditation and yoga can kick of kundalini and ive never seen any warnings about it anywhere .It seems like it can be a shock if your unprepared or not seeking it . From what i have read the spasms from kundalini are cleansing and will eventually clear out the bulk of the tension in your body making you feel lighter and more peaceful supposedly , well thats what i tell myself to stop myself going nuts when its at its worst

I hope you're right. It's taking it's ****ing time though!


After going to a specialist, he wants me to take Epilim (an anti-seizure med) for what he calls 'chronic headaches with elements of migraine'. I don't fancy taking medication however, as a), it's something I have massive reservations towards and b), I believe something like this can and should be worked through naturally and methodically. I also reckon that's the most vague diagnosis imaginable.

It's just a shame that trying to find someone near me with experience in this is so difficult.

Thought for the night - Who'd have thought that sitting in mindful peace could end up being so disruptive.

macco66

lolo62 wrote: »

I did a body work session on Tuesday...my jaw had been quite tight for a while before and after about half an hour if intense work my face has literally changed, my jaw has dropped about an inch...its amazing just how deep the energy is locked into the muscles
What I'm finding hardest at the moment is indigestion, its like there is an effervescent tablet sitting in my solar plexus, that and waking up in the middle of the nightfeeling like my legs are literally humming with energy
Another thing I find hard is that although I've moved what feels like an eternity of energy through my body it can seem like a never ending process
I'm glad I've reached a point now though where I can ground the energy because for a while it was pretty terrifying..

How are you managing to ground the energy lolo? I find that bringing awareness to my feet is not only good for grounding me but also helps to disperse the energy from my head.

lolo62

macco66 wrote: »

lolo62 wrote: »

I did a body work session on Tuesday...my jaw had been quite tight for a while before and after about half an hour if intense work my face has literally changed, my jaw has dropped about an inch...its amazing just how deep the energy is locked into the muscles
What I'm finding hardest at the moment is indigestion, its like there is an effervescent tablet sitting in my solar plexus, that and waking up in the middle of the nightfeeling like my legs are literally humming with energy
Another thing I find hard is that although I've moved what feels like an eternity of energy through my body it can seem like a never ending process
I'm glad I've reached a point now though where I can ground the energy because for a while it was pretty terrifying..

How are you managing to ground the energy lolo? I find that bringing awareness to my feet is not only good for grounding me but also helps to disperse the energy from my head.

Definitely, if i pull the energy up into my head I'm in the danger zone..the feet thing helps a lot but the main thing for me is self-soothing. my upbringing was very much about 'pulling yourself together' and keeping going no matter what...even if your leg falls off, so just being really gentle with myself and allowing sensations to be there without attaching thought to them

I used to go into panic mode with sensations as it felt like the stuff of science fiction, I would focus on the sensations and become so ungrounded that I wasn't even in my body any more...i never had a full blown psychotic episode but came dangerously close a few times
Luckily I have an amazing therapist who has been gently reassuring me all the way along 'its just energy', this has become my mantra

btw had a trip to the dentist recently and teeth are showing wear from clenching and grinding, she suggested a rubber thing while sleeping as besides wearing down teeth clenching can eventually cause gums to recede...
I had been avoiding the dentist for the past few years so glad I got them checked

barrymanilow

macco66 wrote: »

I hope you're right. It's taking it's ****ing time though!


After going to a specialist, he wants me to take Epilim (an anti-seizure med) for what he calls 'chronic headaches with elements of migraine'. I don't fancy taking medication however, as a), it's something I have massive reservations towards and b), I believe something like this can and should be worked through naturally and methodically. I also reckon that's the most vague diagnosis imaginable.

It's just a shame that trying to find someone near me with experience in this is so difficult.

Thought for the night - Who'd have thought that sitting in mindful peace could end up being so disruptive.

Hey macco far be it from me to give anyone medical advice on an internet forum but for me and from my own research i would be very reluctant to take medication to push down the process that is occuring even though it can be so hard to live with sometimes that is of course if you really think that it is your body trying to heal itself .

Something that I have recently come across is the work of a guy called David Bercelli , he has developed exercises which help the body to release tension through a sort of shaking which he claims is an entirely natural bodily response that we have learned to inhibit .he has a few vids on you tube and a book out

http://traumaprevention.com/2009/07/09/the-revolutionary-trauma-release-process/

I have found that the shaking exercises worked all up my body right to my jaw , im still suffering a lot in that area but i think this has helped loosen it up a little .

lolo62

barrymanilow wrote: »

macco66 wrote: »

I hope you're right. It's taking it's ****ing time though!


After going to a specialist, he wants me to take Epilim (an anti-seizure med) for what he calls 'chronic headaches with elements of migraine'. I don't fancy taking medication however, as a), it's something I have massive reservations towards and b), I believe something like this can and should be worked through naturally and methodically. I also reckon that's the most vague diagnosis imaginable.

It's just a shame that trying to find someone near me with experience in this is so difficult.

Thought for the night - Who'd have thought that sitting in mindful peace could end up being so disruptive.

Hey macco far be it from me to give anyone medical advice on an internet forum but for me and from my own research i would be very reluctant to take medication to push down the process that is occuring even though it can be so hard to live with sometimes that is of course if you really think that it is your body trying to heal itself .

Something that I have recently come across is the work of a guy called David Bercelli , he has developed exercises which help the body to release tension through a sort of shaking which he claims is an entirely natural bodily response that we have learned to inhibit .he has a few vids on you tube and a book out

http://traumaprevention.com/2009/07/09/the-revolutionary-trauma-release-process/

I have found that the shaking exercises worked all up my body right to my jaw , im still suffering a lot in that area but i think this has helped loosen it up a little .

I second that! In the same vein as what you're talking about Barrymanilow is a book called 'waking the tiger' looks at trauma from the perspective of animal instincts and how a gazelle for example gets up and shakes off the experience from its body after freezing to play dead, the experience is completed and the energy doesn't get trapped in the body in a frozen state

We have this ability innately too but have shut it down due to todays society being all in the head

Suceed

Tension around the jaw area would be a common symptom of stress.

Here's a 'progressive muscular relaxation' video, a simple technique to relieve muscle tension, which may help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRUdkxQOqWM

'Autogenic relaxation' may prove useful also.