'Cut the dole' they say: What the IMF wants, the IMF gets

Sin City

puffishoes wrote: »

wow, you're not great at math.

What job are we going to get you into at all

188 X 52 = 9776

9776 / 12 = 814.60

so yes, in excess of 800e a month.

next question genius.

But how much of that is disposible?

Tombi!

puffishoes wrote: »

wow, you're not great at math.

What job are we going to get you into at all

188 X 52 = 9776

9776 / 12 = 814.60

so yes, in excess of 800e a month.

next question genius.

Actually... you would have to have that saved up and take it per month or have it given to you each month in that amount.

In reality it's 188 per week, times 4. Which we get 752 per month.

EchoO

puffishoes wrote: »

wow, you're not great at math.

What job are we going to get you into at all

188 X 52 = 9776

9776 / 12 = 814.60

so yes, in excess of 800e a month.

next question genius.

Whats with the attitude, ffs,

emul8ter25

Sin City wrote: »

On the dole?

I think your cousin is having you on

lol u think?

she gets child allowance, rent allowance, the whole lot...

now i know you are going to say "thats different!" but it all boils down to the same thing.

puffishoes

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Actually... you would have to have that saved up and take it per month or have it given to you each month in that amount.

In reality it's 188 per week, times 4. Which we get 752 per month.

can't find a job

can't do math

can't budget basic finances.

The picture is becoming clearer.

you realise there's months were you get paid 5 times? right?

Sin City

emul8ter25 wrote: »

lol u think?

she gets child allowance, rent allowance, the whole lot...

now i know you are going to say "thats different!" but it all boils down to the same thing.

So are you going to report her or just complain about it here?

Tombi!

puffishoes wrote: »

can't find a job

can't do math

can't budget basic finances.

The picture is becoming clearer.

you realise there's months were you get paid 5 times? right?

And yet I can afford a night out once a week by budgeting.

Logical Fallacy

puffishoes wrote: »

shopping bill.....

Yeah, but where does the rest of your money go?

war_child

puffi whats ur rent a week ....186*4 = 744

my rents ia 100 euro a week

20 euro gas/elec

40 euro for food

10 euro for travel

leaves me 16 euro disposable

Dont know were your getting your 800 disposable i think u shud head backto school , youll probably get a grant if ya try hard lol

And i dont even drink 16 pays for a pack of tobacco for me and i use free webtexts if i need someone to call me ..thats a more accurate portrayal of what 186 a week is used for

puffishoes

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

And yet I can afford a night out once a week by budgeting.

Ah, you're trolling. I should have spotted earlier. my bad.

good lad.

JohnMarston

puffishoes wrote: »

Our shopping bill is aprox 50-60e a week for two people.

if you're on the dole you have in excess of 800e a month disposable income.

how the hell would one starve with more disposable income than most low paid workers?

Do you live at home or do you have your own place? You arent taking into account rent, electricity and gas bills, transport costs in getting to and fro, people living in an area where a car is essential.
If food bills are all you have to worry about, then you are correct.

emul8ter25

Sin City wrote: »

So are you going to report her or just complain about it here?

report her for what? she is not doing anything wrong, just collecting the benefits she is "entitled" to.

i personally find it sickening that she apparently has enough excess money living off the system to do these things.

Tombi!

puffishoes wrote: »

Ah, you're trolling. I should have spotted earlier. my bad.

good lad.

I want know, WTF is your problem? Hard to believe someone is able to go out with friends while on the dole?

puffishoes

war_child wrote: »

puffi whats ur rent a week ....186*4 = 744

my rents ia 100 euro a week

20 euro gas/elec

40 euro for food

10 euro for travel

leaves me 16 euro disposable

Dont know were your getting your 800 disposable i think u shud head backto school , youll probably get a grant if ya try hard lol

maybe you should seek rent allowance?

puffishoes

JohnMarston wrote: »

Do you live at home or do you have your own place? You arent taking into account rent, electricity and gas bills, transport costs in getting to and fro, people living in an area where a car is essential.
If food bills are all you have to worry about, then you are correct.

SHOPPING BILL....

Tombi!

puffishoes wrote: »

maybe you should seek rent allowance?

Have to be living there for six months. Plus I believe now they need to "need" a home. I know one girl who had hers cancelled because she could move back home and was basically told to.

Sin City

emul8ter25 wrote: »

report her for what? she is not doing anything wrong, just collecting the benefits she is "entitled" to.

i personally find it sickening that she apparently has enough excess money living off the system to do these things.

She shouldnt have excess money living off the system

There is no way she would be able to go to Vegas and drink like a fish on just benifits.

So maybe she is doing something dodgy or supplimenting her income some other way

Logical Fallacy

JohnMarston wrote: »

Do you live at home or do you have your own place? You arent taking into account rent, electricity and gas bills, transport costs in getting to and fro, people living in an area where a car is essential.
If food bills are all you have to worry about, then you are correct.

For a guy who is happy to insult other people, auld Puffin seems to be having terrible difficulty in answering the simple question we have both asked him.

puffishoes

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Have to be living there for six months. Plus I believe now they need to "need" a home. I know one girl who had hers cancelled because she could move back home and was basically told to.

i should have known you would have all the excuses ready to go.

Tombi!

Sin City wrote: »

She shouldnt have excess money living off the system

There is no way she would be able to go to Vegas and drink like a fish on just benifits.

So maybe she is doing something dodgy or supplimenting her income some other way

It depends, I think. Some people are fine with drinking cheap drink. The Vegas thing is really dodgy, though. Or she could just be a great gambler :pac:

war_child

puffi whats ur rent a week ....186*4 = 744

my rents ia 100 euro a week

20 euro gas/elec

40 euro for food

10 euro for travel

leaves me 16 euro disposable

Dont know were your getting your 800 disposable i think u shud head backto school , youll probably get a grant if ya try hard lol

And i dont even drink 16 pays for a pack of tobacco for me and i use free webtexts if i need someone to call me ..thats a more accurate portrayal of what 186 a week is used for

i should receive rental allowance really,,,,, im not entitled to rent allowance because the money we get is over the threshold , have been to the officer about rent allowance and also tried to get council housing to lower the rent but were not entitled , so i sniff fraud

Tombi!

puffishoes wrote: »

i should have known you would have all the excuses ready to go.

I wasn't the person who you said that too. I was merely pointing out some obvious facts.

puffishoes

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

For a guy who is happy to insult other people, auld Puffin seems to be having terrible difficulty in answering the simple question we have both asked him.

The budget i gave was a shopping bill for two people, in retort to posts about people starving. what on earth has it to do with my rent your rent or anyone elses rent?

can you explain to me from in excess of 800e a month why someone would be left to starve? considering you can feed 2 adults very well on less than 50e a week?

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emul8ter25

Sin City wrote: »

She shouldnt have excess money living off the system

There is no way she would be able to go to Vegas and drink like a fish on just benifits.

So maybe she is doing something dodgy or supplimenting her income some other way

Do you honestly believe that cases like this dont exist all over the place here in ireland?

They do, and its things like this that really piss off people out there working and being so heavily taxed.


I have absolutely nothing against someone being on the Dole which makes it possible for them to get by.

But there are obviously situations where the benefits people receive are just too generous.

Lovbnmoma

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6REjI77BQ

You have to watch this guys! Thought it was very suitable to the thread!

Tombi!

emul8ter25 wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that cases like this dont exist all over the place here in ireland?

They do, and its things like this that really piss off people out there working and being so heavily taxed.


I have absolutely nothing against someone being on the Dole which makes it possible for them to get by.

But there are obviously situations where the benefits people receive are just too generous.

What benefits do you yourself get on the dole, if you don't mind saying.

puffishoes

war_child wrote: »

puffi whats ur rent a week ....186*4 = 744

my rents ia 100 euro a week

20 euro gas/elec

40 euro for food

10 euro for travel

leaves me 16 euro disposable

Dont know were your getting your 800 disposable i think u shud head backto school , youll probably get a grant if ya try hard lol

And i dont even drink 16 pays for a pack of tobacco for me and i use free webtexts if i need someone to call me ..thats a more accurate portrayal of what 186 a week is used for

i should receive rental allowance really,,,,, im not entitled to rent allowance because the money we get is over the threshold , have been to the officer about rent allowance and also tried to get council housing to lower the rent but were not entitled , so i sniff fraud

if you get 188e how is the money you get over the threshold?

doesn't make sense. I'd retrutn to the SW or discuss with your local relieving officer or equivalent for a review.

Sin City

puffishoes wrote: »

The budget i gave was a shopping bill for two people, in retort to posts about people starving. what on earth has it to do with my rent your rent or anyone elses rent?

can you explain to me from in excess of 800e a month why someone would be left to starve? considering you can feed 2 adults very well on less than 50e a week?

Ok so a family of four lets double that, then lets add bills and morgates and then youll find the 188 gets eaten up very fast

Logical Fallacy

puffishoes wrote: »

The budget i gave was a shopping bill for two people, in retort to posts about people starving. what on earth has it to do with my rent your rent or anyone elses rent?

can you explain to me from in excess of 800e a month why someone would be left to starve? considering you can feed 2 adults very well on less than 50e a week?

Well what I would ask there is what do you guys eat? A quick run through of the average weekly intake would do.

I'd also suggest giving some shopping tips in thread, where you buy your food and in what quantities for what price.

I must confess that a part of me doubts you.

Kurz

Everyone who's not on the dole is an expert about how the dole works. It's astonishing.

emul8ter25

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

What benefits do you yourself get on the dole, if you don't mind saying.

none. i am not on the dole.

i do personally know people that are.... so its not just a story i heard about, its first hand knowledge.

Sin City

emul8ter25 wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that cases like this dont exist all over the place here in ireland?

They do, and its things like this that really piss off people out there working and being so heavily taxed.


I have absolutely nothing against someone being on the Dole which makes it possible for them to get by.

But there are obviously situations where the benefits people receive are just too generous.

Well then confront her

Its people like her who are making these threads possible

Or again are you just going to bitch about it here?

puffishoes

again boards attracts poster's with the worst luck on the planet.

live in the middle of nowhere.

can't do anything for themselves.

live no where near good public transport

have no expirieince in anything of the 26k + 1k jobs opening a week.

can't get rent allowance when we're shelling out millions every year for it.

but yet no one on boards seems to be availing off all these benefits?

strange.

emul8ter25

Kurz wrote: »

Everyone who's not on the dole is an expert about how the dole works. It's astonishing.

Perhaps we should be. Its equally astonishing that people on the Dole know how to milk the system for every last cent.

Ms.M

So puffi, what should the dole allowance be out of interest in your very humble opinion?

Tombi!

emul8ter25 wrote: »

none. i am not on the dole.

i do personally know people that are.... so its not just a story i heard about, its first hand knowledge.

Oh, yeah. Sorry, you did mention it earlier.

Just report her then.
By the by, just because some of us know how to milk it, doesn't mean we do.

I rarely use the medical card. I get fuel allowance because it's really cold at times.

That's it.

Granted, I could easily manage to get free sleeping pills and sell them but, I don't.

Sin City

puffishoes wrote: »

again boards attracts poster's with the worst luck on the planet.

live in the middle of nowhere.

can't do anything for themselves.

live no where near good public transport

have no expirieince in anything of the 26k + 1k jobs opening a week.

can't get rent allowance when we're shelling out millions every year for it.

but yet no one on boards seems to be availing off all these benefits?

strange.

Back to demeaning people again? Nice touch

puffishoes

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Well what I would ask there is what do you guys eat? A quick run through of the average weekly intake would do.

I'd also suggest giving some shopping tips in thread, where you buy your food and in what quantities for what price.

I must confess that a part of me doubts you.

I'm not in receipt of sw payments so I don't see why it's relevant?

You don't think you can feed two people for an avg of 50e a week?

odd, how much do you think it takes?

war_child

ha ha ha ye good video .... made by a bunch of filmstudents who still live at home with mamy and daddy ...

puffishoes

Ms.M wrote: »

So puffi, what should the dole allowance be out of interest in your very humble opinion?

I don't think there should be any set allowance per se.

Chucky the tree

Sin City wrote: »

Ok so a family of four lets double that, then lets add bills and morgates and then youll find the 188 gets eaten up very fast

The Social Welfare is not meant to pay peoples mortgages.

Kosseegan

There is no good cutting the dole if they don't drop the minimum wage as well.

Sin City

Chucky the tree wrote: »

The Social Welfare is not meant to pay peoples mortgages.

Oh here we go

Ok so we should all just be homeless is it

Get a grip

Kurz

Chucky the tree wrote: »

The Social Welfare is not meant to pay peoples mortgages.

Where is this specified? Can you link to where the legislation specifies what the dole is meant to pay?

Ms.M

Sin City wrote: »

Back to demeaning people again? Nice touch

Quick! Tell him how to spell experience! And laugh at him! He'd do the same, God damn!


... where's a grammar nazi when you need one?

puffishoes

Kosseegan wrote: »

There is no good cutting the dole if they don't drop the minimum wage as well.

abolish it.

the market should set what a job is worth not the government.

Ms.M

puffishoes wrote: »

I don't think there should be any set allowance per se.

What should there be?
(Genuinely wondering, not having a go)

war_child

ok so how are ya supposed to pay your mortgage ya ignorant whelp ...sorry forgot bout the money tree i had in the garden

puffishoes

Kurz wrote: »

Where is this specified? Can you link to where the legislation specifies what the dole is meant to pay?

so should people with debts get higher sw payments than people who were frugal?