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The Dark Knight Rises - seen thread *SPOILERS WITHIN* See Mod Warning in first post

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    #1382
    amacca
    Registered Users Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭amacca


    OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »
    Would there be any chance they could make a Cat woman movie with Anne Hathaway? That would be great.

    Meh....I really mean that apathy btw:D

    If Nolan directed it I would have to see it....but I'd be going to the cinema with a sense of dread and foreboding.


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    #1383
    MrStuffins
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    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    I'm not the one making sweeping and definitive statements.
    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Everybody has a price.

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    #1384
    Grimebox
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    podgemonster wrote: »
    I think one reason the 2nd movie in a trilogy always stands out is that the can usually end on a tragic note or leave a sense of hopelessness. People love a tragedy. While the first movie establishes our heros, the second can destroy them, and the 3rd sows everything up in a nice package.

    TKD is popular in one way because the bad guy won, Harvey Dent turned, Rachel dead and Batman labelled a murderer. The movie leaves you wanting more, wanting resolution. Similar to Vader capturing Hans Solo and de-handing Luke or Marty getting lost in time in BTTF.

    Rises ends on positive notes, Bruce free, Gotham saved, Bad guys dead and a replacement ready to take up the mantle and for many (an i do understand this) this is just too perfect. Although it may not have been the ending you wanted, it was the ending the trilogy needed.

    Well said. I really wish they let Batman die rather than the happy ending. The moment I thought he was dead was the only "wow" moment I had in the entire film. Fantastic ending none the less. Gutted they backtracked from that


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    #1385
    Handsome Bob
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    Grimebox wrote: »
    Well said. I really wish they let Batman die rather than the happy ending. The moment I thought he was dead was the only "wow" moment I had in the entire film. Fantastic ending none the less. Gutted they backtracked from that

    It's not backtracking if it was always the original intention to end on the note that they did.


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    #1386
    spankmaster2000
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    amacca wrote: »
    a darker riddler.............maybe a serial killer who leads batman up cul de sacs and gives a more detective oriented storyline...they whole city could be paralysed by fear as he remains uncaught....LOS could be backing him as a distraction for another attempt

    I'd always imagined this a little bit like Die Hard: With a Vengeance. I mean that in a good way though. Where the B-Man is pressed against time to solve these riddles. Unfortunately though, the "darker / real-world" take on the Riddler might bring a few comparisons to TDK's portrayal of the Joker.

    I'd have kind of liked to see a Nolanverse take on the character Hush. In fact; with a little bit of reworking, that storyline might even "fit" as a continuation of this franchise.


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    #1387
    who_me
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    Handsome Bob wrote: »
    It's not backtracking if it was always the original intention to end on the note that they did.

    Presumably he meant 'backtracking' in the sense the viewer was initially lead to think he died, only to learn otherwise in a 'twist' soon after.


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    #1388
    Jame Gumb
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 802 ✭✭✭Jame Gumb


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    I'm not the one making sweeping and definitive statements.
    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Everybody has a price.

    71b14a93_jackie-chan-meme_thumb7.png

    Everybody has a price.


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    #1389
    FlashD
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    I'm glad they didn't kill the character, it leaves it open for all of them to return which I really think they will years from now.

    Right now, there is way too much pressure and expectations from the fans and I think this is one of the reasons that TDKR feels a little creaky in places. I could feel a slightly rushed pace and lack of unique ideas to conclude the whole thing towards the end.

    Nolan and crew probably just want everyone off their backs for a few years now, work on some new projects and get some space to generate some fresh new ideas together without the media breathing down their necks all the time.

    What director wouldn't welcome a break from that?


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    #1390
    The Recliner
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    who_me wrote: »
    Presumably he meant 'backtracking' in the sense the viewer was initially lead to think he died, only to learn otherwise in a 'twist' soon after.

    It was hardly backtracking though

    The Autopilot thing was flagged early on in the movie


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    #1391
    Scanlas The 2nd
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    OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »
    Would there be any chance they could make a Cat woman movie with Anne Hathaway? That would be great.

    Terrible idea. People want batman, not Catwoman, it's too gimmicky.


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    #1392
    amacca
    Registered Users Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭amacca


    spankmaster2000 wrote: »
    I'd always imagined this a little bit like Die Hard: With a Vengeance. I mean that in a good way though. Where the B-Man is pressed against time to solve these riddles. Unfortunately though, the "darker / real-world" take on the Riddler might bring a few comparisons to TDK's portrayal of the Joker.

    I'd have kind of liked to see a Nolanverse take on the character Hush. In fact; with a little bit of reworking, that storyline might even "fit" as a continuation of this franchise.

    yep....although I'd like to see how they would avoid the temptation to introduce a load of classic villains orchestrated by him to take down batman...wouldn't like to see it feature a lot of villain "cameos"

    Also the character of Red Hood would make a great continuation imo - jokers old alias (could include details of jokers origin as these were not given in TDK) - leaves behind a calling card, "let the punishment fit the crime" only he has no limits - new JGL Batman comes into conflict with him for his methods, red hood describes the whole thing as the revenge of one crazy man in a mask against another crazy man in a mask- he then defeats new batman but is unable to stop whatever villain is menacing gotham (my pick would be serial killer riddler) meaning Bruce has to come out of retirement to put him and the villain and the manipulative LOS down - - - there all done, the dark knight rises again!:D


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    #1393
    Grimebox
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    Handsome Bob wrote: »
    It's not backtracking if it was always the original intention to end on the note that they did.

    Considering your avatar, I don't think we're going to agree on anything :P


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    #1394
    tony1kenobi
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    missingtime wrote: »
    I wonder what story line they could fit in those 8 years between TDK and TDKR?

    The Dark Knight Procrastinates.


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    #1395
    Otacon
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    Grimebox wrote: »
    Well said. I really wish they let Batman die rather than the happy ending. The moment I thought he was dead was the only "wow" moment I had in the entire film. Fantastic ending none the less. Gutted they backtracked from that

    - Alfred mentions that he always hoped to see Bruce away from Gotham, possibly with a family, having moved on with his life.
    - Selena Kyle throughout the movie was simply looking for a 'clean slate', a new start on life.
    - Lucius mentions that he could never get the auto-pilot to work on 'The Bat'

    There was only ever going to be one ending, anything else would have felt like a cheat, based on the above.

    Also, like most of the main plot points, 'Bruce faking his own death' was taken from the graphic novels [specifically The Dark Knight Returns].


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    #1396
    Professey Chin
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    tony1kenobi wrote: »
    The Dark Knight Procrastinates.
    The Dark Knight Vegetates


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    #1397
    amacca
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    tony1kenobi wrote: »
    The Dark Knight Procrastinates.

    Not great but much better than the adult sequel - the Dark Knight masturbates! :pac:


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    #1398
    MrStuffins
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    Jame Gumb wrote: »
    Everybody has a price.

    So you keep saying!

    You sound like a poor man's Albert!

    Doesn't quite have the same edge as "Some men just want to watch the world burn"


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    #1399
    OMARS_COMING_
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    Is it possible that Bale will continue to be batman,but the location will change from Gotham to Paris? Wouldn't that be fantastic?


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    #1400
    Turtyturd
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    Grimebox wrote: »
    Well said. I really wish they let Batman die rather than the happy ending. The moment I thought he was dead was the only "wow" moment I had in the entire film. Fantastic ending none the less. Gutted they backtracked from that

    According to an interview with Nolan recently the first part of the movie they came up with was the ending so I don't think there was any backtracking. As has been pointed out numerous times the ending is consistent with and a fitting conclusion to the themes of the series.


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    #1401
    MrStuffins
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    OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »
    Is it possible that Bale will continue to be batman,but the location will change from Gotham to Paris? Wouldn't that be fantastic?

    The Dark Knight Backpacks!


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    #1402
    Oafley Jones
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    Grimebox wrote: »
    Well said. I really wish they let Batman die rather than the happy ending. The moment I thought he was dead was the only "wow" moment I had in the entire film. Fantastic ending none the less. Gutted they backtracked from that

    The ending was one of the few things I didn't hate about this. I've never understood the lust for Wayne to be killed off by some people - the notion that a heros death is the only satisfying conclusion to an arc is one of the worst impulses you see in comic fandom.


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    #1403
    Grimebox
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    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    The ending was one of the few things I didn't hate about this. I've never understood the lust for Wayne to be killed off by some people - the notion that a heros death is the only satisfying conclusion to an arc is one of the worst impulses you see in comic fandom.

    I have no lust for him to die nor have I ever read a batman comic in my life. I just thought it was completely unexpected for him to die and really it blew me away. I thought he was going to be a predictable ending tying everything together nicely but for a split second it seemed Nolan was going down a completely different route. I was little disappointed, thats all.


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    #1404
    MrStuffins
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    Grimebox wrote: »
    I have no lust for him to die nor have I ever read a batman comic in my life. I just thought it was completely unexpected for him to die and really it blew me away. I thought he was going to be a predictable ending tying everything together nicely but for a split second it seemed Nolan was going to a completely different route. I was little disappointed, thats all.

    I agree that I would've enjoyed the ending more had he actually died.

    Or if Alfred had looked across and just nodded, leaving you to fill in the blank yourself. Maybe he's dead, maybe he's not...........

    I'm guessing though that they wouldn't allow Nolan to kill Bruce Wayne!


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    #1405
    IncognitoMan
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    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I agree that I would've enjoyed the ending more had he actually died.

    Or if Alfred had looked across and just nodded, leaving you to fill in the blank yourself. Maybe he's dead, maybe he's not...........

    I'm guessing though that they wouldn't allow Nolan to kill Bruce Wayne!

    Thank god it wasn't left like this. I don't think I could have stood to hear all the arguing about it, heck even though the film has a fairly clear cut ending people are still arguing that it was a dream.


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    #1406
    MrStuffins
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    IncognitoMan wrote: »
    Thank god it wasn't left like this. I don't think I could have stood to hear all the arguing about it, heck even though the film has a fairly clear cut ending people are still arguing that it was a dream.

    Yeah but you shouldn't take those people seriously!


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    #1407
    Jame Gumb
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    Isn't it right that Bruce Wayne ends up happy rather than brown bread?

    Clearly not a dream on the basis that Alfred knew nothing of Selina Kyle.


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    #1408
    Mickeroo
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    IncognitoMan wrote: »
    Thank god it wasn't left like this. I don't think I could have stood to hear all the arguing about it, heck even though the film has a fairly clear cut ending people are still arguing that it was a dream.

    The nod would have been pretty clearcut too imo. He wouldn't nod if Bruce wasn't there. you're right though the groundless speculation would have been ten times worse, no reason to think anything was a dream at the end.


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    #1409
    B.A._Baracus
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    Would of been a nice little scene if Alfred just nodded and smiled without seeing bruce.

    Sure anyone with the smallest of brains could of figured out bruce was alive. From what alfred said earlier in the movie. Not to mention it showed him looking around and looking sad in the flashback.


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    #1410
    Phoenix Park
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    OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »
    Is it possible that Bale will continue to be batman,but the location will change from Gotham to Paris? Wouldn't that be fantastic?

    Can't wait. Batman with a copy of the Lonely Planet - France edition tucked under his arm queuing up for a ten second glance at the Mona Lisa. Sounds great.


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    #1411
    Turtyturd
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    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    Grimebox wrote: »
    Well said. I really wish they let Batman die rather than the happy ending. The moment I thought he was dead was the only "wow" moment I had in the entire film. Fantastic ending none the less. Gutted they backtracked from that

    The ending was one of the few things I didn't hate about this. I've never understood the lust for Wayne to be killed off by some people - the notion that a heros death is the only satisfying conclusion to an arc is one of the worst impulses you see in comic fandom.


    You obviously don't read comics, because the notion that a heroes death is the easy way to increase sales is one of the worst impulses you see in comic fandom.


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