Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

Knex*

Has it actually been announced yet by either Swansea or Liverpool that we did in fact pay 15m?

From what I can gather that price is still a rumoured price.

Leiva

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Brillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllliant. That should help future negotiations.
Dumb as rocks.

I thought the same when I read it but put it down to Brendan being a little too excited and saying something he doesnt mean .

Oh no wait ...

opr

Sahin surely is dead in the water now we've Allen. Don't get me wrong I would love him but surely we need players elsewhere much more now. Christ if it did happen midfield options of Lucas, Allen, Shelvey, Sahin, Gerrard and Henderson would be out of this world.

Opr

tok9

opr wrote: »

Sahin surely is dead in the water now we've Allen. Don't get me wrong I would love him but surely we need players elsewhere much more now. Christ if it did happen midfield options of Lucas, Allen, Shelvey, Sahin, Gerrard and Henderson would be out of this world.

Opr

Completely agree. It'd be a massive shock if we were in for Sahin.

Tellos could be an interesting option I think, especially if Sterling goes on loan.

Knex*

opr wrote: »

Sahin surely is dead in the water now we've Allen. Don't get me wrong I would love him but surely we need players elsewhere much more now. Christ if it did happen midfield options of Lucas, Allen, Shelvey, Sahin, Gerrard and Henderson would be out of this world.

Opr

Agreed. It wouldn't make sense to put our resources in that basket, loan or not. And I doubt Madrid are gonna that Chabby Adams in exchange.

We absolutely need a winger now. Even looking at the bench the last night against Gomel, not a single player capable of playing out wide there. Granted, Carroll could of come on and Suarez pushed out, but its not enough.

Winger and a CAM are needed I feel, but the winger is by far the priority.

opr

tok9 wrote: »

Completely agree. It'd be a massive shock if we were in for Sahin.

Tellos could be an interesting option I think, especially if Sterling goes on loan.

We were talking about Tello the other day on the thread and I for one hope it doesn't happen. I know he is still relatively young but he's all pace without much between the ears. Watching the lads last night we need cleverness, interchange etc none of which he offers. Although we do lack pace in the side at the moment.

Still no more stupid footballers

Opr

LiamoSail

Knex. wrote: »

If he ever has a testimonial game, and I bet he will with his charity and all that, you can bet it will be Cardiff against Liverpool.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was in Anfield, he is a massive supporter by all accounts.

The lad could have a testimonial tournament. You'd probably have to have qualifiers and all given the number of clubs he's played for

Terrific player though, and always respected him. Was unlucky he never played in a side good enough to match his ability for any length of time. A real shame it was necessary to sell him in order to fund the Torres signing

dmigsy wrote: »

Interesting quotes in the guardian from Rodgers

"Hopefully between now and the end of August we can get some more players in who can help the players we have here. That would be great. I don't really want to say how many I'd like to bring in, because if I say three for instance, then people might say you've not got three if it doesn't happen. It is always complex at a big club. What I have learnt here very quickly is the minute Liverpool are interested it adds about two noughts onto the price tag of a player, it's absolutely incredible."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/10/joe-allen-liverpool-swansea

Two more players would do me. A winger/striker and a left back please.

Other clubs would daft not to do that. Historically, others have done so and pulled it off. Having Liverpool interested in one of your players is akin to to having City or PSG interested interms of being able to command well over what the players true worth is

Gmol wrote: »

Smith in the times saying looking for sahin and dempsey. Loads of Twitter rumors re tello on loan. Think we'll get tello and dempsey. don't think we'll go for rameriz as too dear and overrated

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall an interview with Sahin shortly after he signed for Real. When Liverpool were mentioned as a possible alternative after he left Germany, he was more or less sniggering at the prospect. I'm sure the interview was in fourfourtwo

Ape X

I'd be happy enough with the arrival of Dempsey, but have to agree with others - Tello is a headless chicken.

Knex*

opr wrote: »

We were talking about Tello the other day on the thread and I for one hope it doesn't happen. I know he is still relatively young but he's all pace without much between the ears. Watching the lads last night we need cleverness, interchange etc none of which he offers. Although we do lack pace in the side at the moment.

Still no more stupid footballers

Opr

I was thinking about this over the last few days, and the best player that we have been linked to, from what I could gather, is Mertens.

Has pace to burn, can interchange nicely between any of the attacking positions, has an eye for goal and is coming into his prime at 25.

Considering himself and, is it Strootmans?, not sure tbh, were signed together for under €15m last season its not too unfeasible for him to be signed for around the 15m mark this season.

The other would be Afellay but I really don't think he's gonna leave Barca this season.

Lawrence1895

LiamoSail wrote: »

The lad could have a testimonial tournament. You'd probably have to have qualifiers and all given the number of clubs he's played for

Terrific player though, and always respected him. Was unlucky he never played in a side good enough to match his ability for any length of time. A real shame it was necessary to sell him in order to fund the Torres signing



Other clubs would daft not to do that. Historically, others have done so and pulled it off. Having Liverpool interested in one of your players is akin to to having City or PSG interested interms of being able to command well over what the players true worth is



I could be wrong, but I seem to recall an interview with Sahin shortly after he signed for Real. When Liverpool were mentioned as a possible alternative after he left Germany, he was more or less sniggering at the prospect. I'm sure the interview was in fourfourtwo

I can't recall Nuri Sahin being linked to Liverpool, and I followed his progress quite a lot, since he played for Borussia Dortmund. But he would be a good choice for Liverpool, even if that might never happen in my lifetime

~Rebel~

I wouldn't be surprised if we got Allen for less than 15 million. It sounds like he submitted a transfer request, which he obviously wouldn't have done if we were simply triggering a clause, as he'd be losing his loyalty bonus for no reason.

I suspect that we've paid 15m minus whatever his loyalty bonus would have been, so Swansea have gotten the same amount they would have if we paid 15 outright.

Standard loyalty bonus I believe is 15% of the fee, which makes the fee we would have paid closer to 12.5million.

opr

Knex. wrote: »

I was thinking about this over the last few days, and the best player that we have been linked to, from what I could gather, is Mertens.

Has pace to burn, can interchange nicely between any of the attacking positions, has an eye for goal and is coming into his prime at 25.

Considering himself and, is it Strootmans?, not sure tbh, were signed together for under €15m last season its not too unfeasible for him to be signed for around the 15m mark this season.

The other would be Afellay but I really don't think he's gonna leave Barca this season.

It will be telling to see how interested in more players as outright buys we seem. tbh every penny we spend from here on in is going to make me extremely nervous as I'll just be thinking it's coming out of the Agger fund

I thought the loans had merit in that you could bring players in now who can hopefully supplement the squad enough that we can have a shot at top 4 and if we make it then you can buy them outright or go out and spend the extra money next summer on outright deals.

Afellay is by far the best of the loan options touted imo but as you say he seems unlikely at this stage.

Opr

LiamoSail

Lars1916 wrote: »

I can't recall Nuri Sahin being linked to Liverpool, and I followed his progress quite a lot, since he played for Borussia Dortmund. But he would be a good choice for Liverpool, even if that might never happen in my lifetime

I'll see if I can find the interview, bizarrely I keep all the old fourfourtwo's

~Rebel~

LiamoSail wrote: »

I could be wrong, but I seem to recall an interview with Sahin shortly after he signed for Real. When Liverpool were mentioned as a possible alternative after he left Germany, he was more or less sniggering at the prospect. I'm sure the interview was in fourfourtwo

I don't think there was really an alternative to Real Madrid. He made it very clear to Dortmund that he was going to Real and noone else, which is why Real got him for such an unbelievable price.

I presume every other club in the world tabled a matching bid (absolute steal at 8.8 million) at the time, but there were no realistic links to anyone else other than Real.

opr

Lars1916 wrote: »

I can't recall Nuri Sahin being linked to Liverpool, and I followed his progress quite a lot, since he played for Borussia Dortmund. But he would be a good choice for Liverpool, even if that might never happen in my lifetime

He's linked in tomorrows papers by a few journalists. The Anfield Warp today had Rory smith on who thinks he will end up at Arsenal or Liverpool.

Opr

Lawrence1895

opr wrote: »

He's linked in tomorrows papers by a few journalists. The Anfield Warp today had Rory smith on who thinks he will end up at Arsenal or Liverpool.

Opr

Right. If I hear something from my sources in Germany, I'll let you know

Anyway, he was a key player for Borussia Dortmund when they won the title in the 2010/20111 season, just made that one mistake of going to Madrid.

Jesus Wept

Hope if we get him we make sure to let them know we'd have paid more.

budgemook

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Hope if we get him we make sure to let them know we'd have paid more.

He was being annecdotal. Don't think he meant it literally

whatawaster

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Hope if we get him we make sure to let them know we'd have paid more.

Who cares once we have got him? Rodgers was talking about Allen, not anyone else

Nuri Sahin

If we do sign Sahin, I might have a little weep.... in joy of course

It'd be interesting to see the starting XI if dream became reality though.

Jesus Wept

whatawaster wrote: »

Who cares once we have got him? Rodgers was talking about Allen, not anyone else

Because we have a deserved reputation for getting bent over and Brendan Rogered in transfer dealings?
Because he isn't the last player we will ever buy.
Because no one else is going to look at it that way, nor should they.

mike65

budgemook wrote: »

He was being annecdotal. Don't think he meant it literally

This is the internet where everything is literal, and very little is literrate

opr

Propaganda photos with a close up of the Agger tattoo. He even got traces of red throughout it. Feeling some incredible manlove right about now.



Opr

~Rebel~

-Ade- wrote: »

If we do sign Sahin, I might have a little weep.... in joy of course

It'd be interesting to see the starting XI if dream became reality though.

I'd guess;

---

Reina

---

Skrtel----Agger
Johnson

---

Enrique

---

Lucas

---

Sahin

---

Allen
--Gerrard

---

Borini

---

Suarez

With Sahin, Allen and Gerrard all swapping about, moving to find find the space, with Borini and Suarez swapping around too.

Jesus Wept

I can't see Sahin choosing us over Arsenal. He apparently has knocked back Spurs a few times.

budgemook

~Rebel~ wrote: »

-Ade- wrote: »

If we do sign Sahin, I might have a little weep.... in joy of course

It'd be interesting to see the starting XI if dream became reality though.

I'd guess;

---

Reina

---

Skrtel----Agger
Johnson

---

Enrique

---

Lucas

---

Sahin

---

Allen
--Gerrard

---

Borini

---

Suarez

With Sahin, Allen and Gerrard all swapping about, moving to find find the space, with Borini and Suarez swapping around too.

Feckin hell, that'd be as good a starting 11 as anyone.

Jesus Wept

Suarez leading the line?

BINKY NIPPER

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I'd guess;

---

Reina

---

Skrtel----Agger
Johnson

---

Enrique

---

Lucas

---

Sahin

---

Allen
--Gerrard

---

Borini

---

Suarez

With Sahin, Allen and Gerrard all swapping about, moving to find find the space, with Borini and Suarez swapping around too.

Sense of realism is needed imo , why would sahin swap champo league and sunny madrid for a cold night in edinburgh in the "wofa" cup , no chance this will happen.

klose

opr wrote: »

Propaganda photos with a close up of the Agger tattoo. He even got traces of red throughout it. Feeling some incredible manlove right about now.



Opr

I would brofist d'agger so hard :cool:

LiamoSail

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I don't think there was really an alternative to Real Madrid. He made it very clear to Dortmund that he was going to Real and noone else, which is why Real got him for such an unbelievable price.

I don't think so either, and to if its a choice between Real or Liverpool, there's very few who choose Liverpool. However his reaction was seemed akin to Michael Owen's at the prospect of playing in the championship. Again though, I'm only basing this on a vague recollection of something I read about a year ago

~Rebel~

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Suarez leading the line?

Personally, id always have Borini centre forward, with Suarez attacking from deeper (where imo he's most effective), but Suarez led the line yesterday. Realistically, id say starting position won't really matter. I would hope to see Borini central more often, but I think they'll be doing a huge amount of moving around.

opr

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Personally, id always have Borini centre forward, with Suarez attacking from deeper (where imo he's most effective), but Suarez led the line yesterday. Realistically, id say starting position won't really matter. I would hope to see Borini central more often, but I think they'll be doing a huge amount of moving around.

Personally I loved the way we set up with him as the false 9 yesterday. Been beating the donkey for ages that's how we should play him and surround him on both sides and behind with good intelligent players who can all interlink and move positions.

Opr

Helix

budgemook wrote: »

Feckin hell, that'd be as good a starting 11 as anyone.

sure to win the league that

this is your year

budgemook

Helix wrote: »

budgemook wrote: »

Feckin hell, that'd be as good a starting 11 as anyone.

sure to win the league that

this is your year

Nope. No Sahin and it's a squad game. No need to get stupid and knock out tired old cliches.

Nuri Sahin

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I'd guess;

---

Reina

---

Skrtel----Agger
Johnson

---

Enrique

---

Lucas

---

Sahin

---

Allen
--Gerrard

---

Borini

---

Suarez

With Sahin, Allen and Gerrard all swapping about, moving to find find the space, with Borini and Suarez swapping around too.

Yup, that's the one I had in mind myself. Gerrard willing to play there/Rodgers wanting him to play there is another thing though , assuming we did sign Nuri of course. First time this summer I'm letting my mind run with us signing him :P

ush

What if Man City and Liverpool agree a fee and Agger just knocks them back on personal terms? They can't force him out the door, can they?

gaelicred

Word going around 18 million for Agger plus Adam Johnson on loan for a season

DrumSteve

gaelicred wrote: »

Word going around 18 million for Agger plus Adam Johnson on loan for a season

thats laughable.

gaelicred

Thats what i thought when Johnsons not on the bench hes out on the lash

LiamoSail

DrumSteve wrote: »

thats laughable.

LFC transfer policy style

Jesus Wept

Hope sure we are to tell everyone that we would have let him go for less.

mike65

"word going around.." :rolleyes: yeah right.

darced

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K-9

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I'd guess;

---

Reina

---

Skrtel----Agger
Johnson

---

Enrique

---

Lucas

---

Sahin

---

Allen
--Gerrard

---

Borini

---

Suarez

With Sahin, Allen and Gerrard all swapping about, moving to find find the space, with Borini and Suarez swapping around too.

Nobody seems to be putting Carroll in their first 11 which makes me wonder, why the dramatics on this thread over his sale?

Helix

budgemook wrote: »

Nope. No Sahin and it's a squad game. No need to get stupid and knock out tired old cliches.

You don't think that you claim was a touch silly no?

Dr Galen

gaelicred wrote: »

Word going around 18 million for Agger plus Adam Johnson on loan for a season

I know its rumour but were are you seeing this, because I'm not seeing anything like this at all?

gafferino

It's called twitter boll&x

Ape X

gafferino wrote: »

It's called twitter boll&x

Bit harsh. Dr G was just asking!





:pac:

gafferino

Haha yeah but to be honest it's all rumours....I don't believe most of it.....just the good ones:pac:

gaelicred

Liverpool have told Manchester City that they will have to bid either £27 million or £23 million plus Adam Johnson on a season-long loan if they want to take Daniel Agger away from Anfield.
Roberto Mancini is keen to add to his options in the centre of defence and sees Agger as the ideal man.
However, the defender played a key role in the successful Liverpool defence last season and the Reds will not let him go easily.
The City manager was encouraged by new Anfield boss Brendan Rodgers saying that the centre back would be allowed to go for the right price, but the right price may prove too high for the Italian.
Liverpool have already rejected lower offers from the Manchester club, who are yet to add anyone to their squad this summer.
Since being bought by Sheikh Mansour, City have had to get used to paying a premium on signings and it appears it will be no different with the Dane.
When questioned on the possibility of a move, Reds manager Brendan Rodgers said: "There's been contact from City but nowhere near the valuation of what the player is worth.
"You can only consider something like that if it is going to benefit you. Of course you might lose a top player but if it benefits you going forward, and you can make two or three steps because of it, you may have to consider it."
Although Agger is a top class defender, he has a long history of injury problems and that may well be enough to put Mancini off a big money offer.

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