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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13
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He's better than Cole. Way better than Cole.
Therefore getting rid of him (taking into account his tiny wages) & giving Joe Cole even 1 minute game time this season would be a crime.
Seriously but why is Joe Cole even still at the club ?
If Rodgers sticks with him purely because of past loyalties and at the detriment of real talent at the club then I will be really disappointed and question any past statements about no one is safe and everyone plays for the club etc, but if he moves him on with with the intent it deserves then it will show he means business .
In other news from one of our new stars ..@sterling31: Thanks for all the messages that goal meant the world to me , in god all things are possible
Carlsberg don't do first senior goals but if they did ....0 -
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He sleep with your missus? I mean he's no messi Gerrard tm, but he's not that bad
Nope.
It's just we have moved on or let players go (Maxi, Dirk) that are of more use or ability than Joe Cole.
FFS Dirk is worth two Joe Coles.
Loan him out, pay half the wage, anything, just get him out of the way of the rising talent we have.0 -
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Even if we are stuck with him, doesn't mean we have to play him, ever. Nor does it mean he should have a place in the matchday squads ahead of the likes of Pacheco
Did i miss something in the last few months in relation to Pacheco. I seen him playing out wide in a preseason game and he couldn't cross the ball? He was ok but no end product with the lad. Pacheco deserves his place no more than Cole does....both have done little to impress, both wont improve the squad, both add nothing to the squad.....that being said, if i were to keep one i'd keep Pacheco, but i'd get rid of both if possible.0 -
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Just saw the highlight of the Arsenal game. Jesus they have the makings of a super team next season. All 3 players they brought in were class today. Podolski has an eye for goal
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I hope BR is gonna surprise us over the next couple of weeks with some special signings 0 -
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I hope that we keep Pacheco If he makes through to the first team good if not we will get a few million for him from some spanish club.When it comes to cole sell him if not let him go for free that way we get another 90grand a week off the books
Seriously Gaelicred you need to get real. Everyone here is saying Cole is crap so why would anyone want to buy him? By all accounts he's on £90k a week between wages and signing on bonus spread over the length of his contract. Who's fault is that? LFC that's who. Joe Cole was offered a £90k a week contract. No one forced LFC to offer it to him. He accepted the contract he was offered and now both parties have to honour it. He has to turn up for training, not get too fat (what's the upper end of his target weight I wonder??
) and be available to play if selected. Providing he does that we have to give hime £90k a week. Simples 
If we no longer want him around we have a few choices:-
1. Pay up the balance of his contract and terminate the contract. If he has two years left that will cost £90k X 52 X 2 = £9.36m
2. Sell him. Does anyone here seriously think there is a club out there who will actually pay us a transfer fee for him and pay him at least £90k a week? Let's all acknowledge it's as obvious as balls on a dog there isn't a club on the planet who will pay us a transfer fee for the pleasure of then paying Joe at least £90k a week.
3. Loan him out for the remainder of his two year contract. The issue with this is that the clubs who may be interested will probably only want or be willing to pay £20k a week for a player of his current ability so guess who gets to pick up the balance? Yep, you got it in one. It would be LFC thus a 'loan' would only cost us £70k X 52 X 2 = £7.28m. IMHO we might as well have him in the squad as an experienced international for Europa games etc at a marginal cost of £20k a week as have him playing for a lower PL or Championship team.
4. Your preferred option i.e. "let him go for free" - So how do you reckon the conversation with Joe (and his lawyer) will go. BR "Joe, we no longer need you so if you don't mind would you please tear up that contract worth £9m to you and quietly piss off?" JC (or more likely his lawyer) "Sure Brendan, please put that in writing so we can have you for constructive dismissal, get paid up the £9m in full and Joe can start playing for Leeds next week for £20k a week." :-)
We all love the idea of professionals who are more interested in playing football and winning trophies than making money but the reality is professional footballers (or any other professional sports person) have maximising their income over their short career as their main priority and they are dead right. People who call for the likes of Joe Cole to walk away from lucrative contracts in order to 'play regular football' are simply naive and not living in the real world. If I was Joe Cole would I warm the bench for the next two years, pick up in excess of £9m and then go play for some Championship side for £20,000 a week where I can help them get promoted and be a local hero or would I forego the £7.28m in order to go play for the same Championship club now? The answer is so obvious is doesn't need to be stated.
The real world of professional football is made up of deals. Sometimes the club wins (a la Newcastle acquiring Andy Carroll for SFA and selling him for £35m or LFC acquiring Fernando Torres for £20m and selling him for £50m) and sometimes the club loses a la putting a player on £90k a week contract and then realising he is no longer good enough to play for the club and it going to cost up to £9m to get rid of him.
If people here don't like the realities of PROFESSIONAL football they should stop following LFC and start following http://www.lsl.ie.
Rant over
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Seriously Gaelicred you need to get real. Everyone here is saying Cole is crap so why would anyone want to buy him? By all accounts he's on £90k a week between wages and signing on bonus spread over the length of his contract. Who's fault is that? LFC that's who. Joe Cole was offered a £90k a week contract. No one forced LFC to offer it to him. He accepted the contract he was offered and now both parties have to honour it. He has to turn up for training, not get too fat (what's the upper end of his target weight I wonder?? ) and be available to play if selected. Providing he does that we have to give hime £90k a week. Simples
If we no longer want him around we have a few choices:-
1. Pay up the balance of his contract and terminate the contract. If he has two years left that will cost £90k X 52 X 2 = £9.36m
2. Sell him. Does anyone here seriously think there is a club out there who will actually pay us a transfer fee for him and pay him at least £90k a week? Let's all acknowledge it's as obvious as balls on a dog there isn't a club on the planet who will pay us a transfer fee for the pleasure of then paying Joe at least £90k a week.
3. Loan him out for the remainder of his two year contract. The issue with this is that the clubs who may be interested will probably only want or be willing to pay £20k a week for a player of his current ability so guess who gets to pick up the balance? Yep, you got it in one. It would be LFC thus a 'loan' would only cost us £70k X 52 X 2 = £7.28m. IMHO we might as well have him in the squad as an experienced international for Europa games etc at a marginal cost of £20k a week as have him playing for a lower PL or Championship team.
We all love the idea of professionals who are more interested in playing football and winning trophies than making money but the reality is professional footballers (or any other professional sports person) have maximising their income over their short career as their main priority and they are dead right. People who call for the likes of Joe Cole to walk away from lucrative contracts in order to 'play regular football' are simply naive and not living in the real world. If I was Joe Cole would I warm the bench for the next two years, pick up in excess of £9m and then go play for some Championship side for £20,000 a week where I can help them get promoted and be a local hero or would I forego the £7.28m in order to go play for the same Championship club now? The answer is so obvious is doesn't need to be stated
I agree with everything you said thanks for the novel to explain it.
The real world of professional football is made up of deals. Sometimes the club wins (a la Newcastle acquiring Andy Carroll for SFA and selling him for £35m or LFC acquiring Fernando Torres for £20m and selling him for £50m) and sometimes the club loses a la putting a player on £90k a week contract and then realising he is no longer good enough to play for the club and it going to cost up to £9m to get rid of him.
If people here don't like the realities of PROFESSIONAL football they should stop following LFC and start following http://www.lsl.ie.
Rant over I agree with what you say thanks for the novel to explain it:D
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