Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

Luckycharms_74

From Twitter

@LFCTS: City won't meet #LFC's £27m valuation for Agger Tony Barrett writes on The Times.

gaelicred

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Rogers ' Lucas is prolific from 7 yards with no goal keeper'

Swansea blocked Allen from playing??????

Dont worry we will beat WBA at the weekend Allen to score his first of many for us

Luckycharms_74

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Swansea blocked Allen from playing??????

Yeah the deal would not be ratified until Monday. Liverpool asked Swansea for permission to play Allen. It was refused. I guess Mr Jenkins won't be sending BR a Christmas card this year

ShamoBuc

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

From Twitter

Good.

gaelicred

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Good.

We can all rely on twitter:D

Ape X

Delighted for Dirk. It's only right that he's a hero wherever he plays.

~Rebel~

gaelicred wrote: »

We can all rely on twitter:D

More-so Tony Barrett than 'twitter'.

Luckycharms_74

gaelicred wrote: »

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Good.

We can all rely on twitter:D

If its from Tony Barrett it's pretty much reliable

daithijjj

Hope its not true but 17.25 for Ramirez on the cards tmro. Several saying it independent of each other. I thought he was a bit sh1te at the 'limpics'.

Melion

daithijjj wrote: »

Hope its not true but 17.25 for Ramirez on the cards tmro. Several saying it independent of each other. I thought he was a bit sh1te at the 'limpics'.

So was Allen

Kess73

daithijjj wrote: »

Hope its not true but 17.25 for Ramirez on the cards tmro. Several saying it independent of each other. I thought he was a bit sh1te at the 'limpics'.

Cavani and Suarez looked a bit ****e at the Olympics as well though, so would not pay too much heed to how players looked during it.

Bray Header

whatawaster wrote: »

Could you provide a link to these transfer lists you speak of?

http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist/listedplayers/sortbyfirstname/-1/-1/1/

Jesus Wept

daithijjj wrote: »

Hope its not true but 17.25 for Ramirez on the cards tmro. Several saying it independent of each other. I thought he was a bit sh1te at the 'limpics'.

Possibly tired after the season?

daithijjj

Seen him more than just the 'limpics', for that price it would be robbery imho. Just mentioned that because i thought he would go for less after it, and those performances.

gafferino

daithijjj wrote: »

Seen him more than just the 'limpics', for that price it would be robbery imho. Just mentioned that because i thought he would go for less after it, and those performances.

Robbery for who?

whatawaster

Bray Header wrote: »

whatawaster wrote: »

Could you provide a link to these transfer lists you speak of?

http://www.thepfa.com/transferlist/listedplayers/sortbyfirstname/-1/-1/1/

2 players in total are transfer listed then?

Kess73

daithijjj wrote: »

Seen him more than just the 'limpics', for that price it would be robbery imho. Just mentioned that because i thought he would go for less after it, and those performances.

was the price you heard in euro or pound though, as if it was typed as 17.25m it could be either. If it was in Euro then that converts to £13.5m which would not be OTT for him tbh.

daithijjj

Kess73 wrote: »

was the price you heard in euro or pound though, as if it was typed as 17.25m it could be either.

22m Euro, 85k. Hope its bolloc*s.

mike65

RAWK reckon its all hogwash, from "worlds worst ITK" (and that's pretty bad)

daithijjj

gafferino wrote: »

Robbery for who?

LFC

Jesus Wept

google Gaston Ramierz and this 40 page thread from RAWK came up.

Found out yesterday that the entire Gaston Ramirez rumour is just that, we've never been interested. All coming from his agent apparently.

That was from a month ago.
It really has been dragging out all summer, that rumour.

Bray Header

whatawaster wrote: »

2 players in total are transfer listed then?

Currently, yes, not very common for big clubs to transfer list a big name due to bonus exposure etc, If a player is listed then club are liable.. some interesting out of contract names there too, Emile Heskey included

whatawaster

Bray Header wrote: »

whatawaster wrote: »

2 players in total are transfer listed then?

Currently, yes, not very common for big clubs to transfer list a big name due to bonus exposure etc, If a player is listed then club are liable.. some interesting out of contract names there too, Emile Heskey included

In reality I think the transfer list is just a notion, and really only exists on football management sims

El Inho

I thought people would be excited my Ramierez

Kess73

daithijjj wrote: »

22m Euro, 85k. Hope its bolloc*s.

85k a week sounds like rubbish tbh as it would more than triple his current wages if you mean €85k and quadruple it if you mean £85k.


Would have to have a look around for it, but I am pretty sure that the president of Bologna was on tv stating that the price for Ramirez was 15.5m or 15.9m (cannot remember if he was talking € or £) at the start of the summer when questioned about interest from Liverpool, Spurs, and Arsenal and that interested clubs should not waste his time with lower bids.

daithijjj

mike65 wrote: »

RAWK reckon its all hogwash, from "worlds worst ITK" (and that's pretty bad)

I dont follow any of those pleb ITK accounts, got it off this chap, he has been ok up to now but maybe had a few vodka's tonight.


Artur Petrosyan ‏@arturpetrosyan
Meanwhile #LFC are signing Gaston Ramirez from Bologna tomorrow. For £18m. On £85K per week.

Jesus Wept

Kess73 wrote: »

85k a week sounds like rubbish tbh as it would more than triple his current wages if you mean €85k and quadruple it if you mean £85k.


Would have to have a look around for it, but I am pretty sure that the president of Bologna was on tv stating that the price for Ramirez was 15.5m or 15.9m (cannot remember if he was talking € or £) at the start of the summer when questioned about interest from Liverpool, Spurs, and Arsenal and that interested clubs should not waste his time with lower bids.

Yea, but we can pay more if we want to like...

El Inho

latest ive found was £18 mill... pile of brown sources though.

Jesus Wept

El Spearo wrote: »

latest ive found was £18 mill... pile of brown sources though.

Let's start our own news agency called Brown Sources.
In?

opr

We aren't spending that kind of money unless a hole is burning in our pocket from other business so I hope it's not true.

Opr

Jesus Wept

opr wrote: »

We aren't spending that kind of money unless a hole is burning in our pocket from other business so I hope it's not true.

Opr

You don't want him at all or at that price?

opr

Andy Carroll wrote: »

You don't want him at all or at that price?

I'm not that pushed on him but others who have seen far more of him seem to rate him so would be happy to see him here next year but no way at those fee/wages. Certainly no way if Agger is being sold to fuel the deal.

Might live with it if someone else is being sacrificed

Opr

Jesus Wept

opr wrote: »

I'm not that pushed on him but others who have seen far more of him seem to rate him so would be happy to see him here next year but no way at those fee/wages. Certainly no way if Agger is being sold to fuel the deal.

Might live with it if someone else is being sacrificed

Opr

Yea....
Louise probably.

gafferino

My Uruguayan mate who is a bg football fan doesn't think that highly of him which has put me off him a bit.
Sahin in
Dempsey in
Agger for chairman

I'd be happy with that.

LuckyLloyd

Andy Carroll wrote: »

You don't want him at all or at that price?

Not at that price certainly. Wouldn't really feel like a slam dunk at £10m though either...

Jesus Wept

Is Adams a creative mid now?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2186960/Clint-Dempsey-Liverpool-Charlie-Adam-used-bait.html

El Inho

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Let's start our own news agency called Brown Sources.
In?

Absolutely...

Brown Sources wrote:

Joe Cole included as part of Gaston Ramirez deal. The £18mill is a combination of £10mill + Joe Cole.

MD1990

id rather Dempsey in than Ramirez

~Rebel~

I'm in two minds with Gaston. On the one hand, he is exciting. If he joined he'd be our most exciting player after Suarez. But with that excitement comes frustration. He'll do a trick when he didn't need to, lose possession, and have everyone pulling their hair out, but then could beat 2 and pop it into the top corner.

I think he's the kind of player who's at his best when he's under pressure, working off instinct. He plays some great incisive balls, with a lot of them coming when he's surrounded, likely see's a flash of red and blue out of the corner of his eye and slips it through.

I think within our much-talked-about system, if Rodgers could get him to do the right things at the right times, he could be a great addition to a fluid front four. The "if" there is easier said than done though. At 12m or under, i'd be happy. At 18m, it's a big gamble.

Again though, we're seeing personal experience with a player come into play in our transfer policy. If we're interested, I have to assume Suarez has very much given his tuppance worth on the matter, as it's those two who would be doing a lot of the interlinking if he comes (along with Borini and Gerrard of course).

Jesus Wept

MD1990 wrote: »

id rather Dempsey in than Ramirez

Bit of a different prospect with 8 years in age difference though?

Gmol

Don't want rameriez well overrated. Would get dempsey and have as cover think downing will do better this year as not enough players in the box last year so little to aim at. This year we seemed to have improved on this hope Allen can get forward like shelvey has so far. Seem to be getting 4 in the box when attacking

MD1990

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Bit of a different prospect with 8 years in age difference though?

i think Dempsey would be a great signing
he would still have 3-4 good years left imo
Ramirez is good too but i would prefer Dempsey

Chucky the tree

I don't know anything about Ramirez but I'd still take him over Dempsey due him being 21 compared Dempsey who is 29.

super_furry

Disagree. We need someone to put the ball in the net this season, not two years from not with a higher resale value.

Chucky the tree

super_furry wrote: »

Disagree. We need someone to put the ball in the net this season, not two years from not with a higher resale value.

Waste of money going for Dempsey then if we're looking for goals. He won't even be first choice.

Tigerandahalf

Dempsey would be a great buy. A proven goalscorer. Be v handy at Anfield where Liverpool have struggled in their home games.

grohlisagod

I think some people don't give Dempsey enough credit with regard to just how much he has improved his all round game over the last couple of years. He's a very accomplished player now at the absolute peak of his powers.

I think he'd fit in very nicely on the left or as cover for Gerrard, provide an added goal threat and would be an extremely good value signing if we could get him for under £10m.

Zak Flaps

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I don't know anything about Ramirez but I'd still take him over Dempsey due him being 21 compared Dempsey who is 29.

According to the Brown Sources News Agency, Dempsey in reality is only 22. He pretended he was 29 as a joke.

Nuri Sahin

As I said before, I personally prefer us to go for players who can contribute in the medium to long term, Dempsey is no doubt, a short term buy for me. Two years we'll get out of him at best IMHO.

On that note, some interesting news coming out of the US. Make of it what you will I suppose, but Dempsey has been omitted from the US squad to face Mexico this Wednesday. Whether that has anything to do with us being back in for him, who knows. Couple of other players have also been omitted as well it must be noted.

As for the Ramírez stories, I'm taking it with a bit more than a pinch of salt for the sheer fact of the wages quoted. Funny enough I've been following the guy (Pretosyan) for a couple of weeks now and have spoken to him about a defender actually, seems a decent guy but still... I'd be ****ing gutted if we dropped the ball with Sigurdsson (I really believe we have regardless of wages as for reasons I outlined in the past on here or on Twitter), if we get Ramírez for x amount and namely, we pay him anything around 80K per a week. If those wages are true, I'd love to know what Sigurdsson is earning at Spurs. I know it's been mentioned a fair bit Spurs have their own wage cap.

Jesus Wept

Sigurdsson was probably always going to Spurs even if we offered the same wages I reckon.