Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

D'Agger

Not happy to see Suso tweeting that with a year left, on his contract.

He's a great prospect and Id be gutted if we lost him. Had a very good u19 competition and should be getting more time on the pitch than Cole imo to see if he's capable of being backup

Kess73

~Rebel~ wrote: »

A disconcerting tweet from Suso a minute ago;


edit> he's already thought better of it and removed the last 2 words. Shows how he feels about it though, and tbh I can see where he's coming from. Hope he realizes that for the moment, with almost the whole squad now back, that Rodgers needs to see the newcomers better in a more manageable group to decide their fate. Got to be tough to run the rule over them if there's 30 odd of them there. He did well in the US, he'll get his chance.

The kid seems to have had enough of the club. Going by past tweets and comments by his family, it would appear that the coaching set up under Hodgson and under Kenny had the kid wanting to go home and get involved in a set up that was based more around technique than running laps.

I see him just running down his contract and leaving tbh. Come January I expect to see him enter into talks with a Spanish club with a view to leaving next summer. Would not be overly surprised to see him ask for a move before this summer is out either.

ThunbergsAreGo

If Cole doesnt get sold/or is at least tried to be moved on id be asking serious question, he is awful

I can totally understand Suso frustration, well regret this one

cson

Leiva wrote: »

<AVB Quotes>

I love that bit where he says the Premiership is the victim in all this when Bale gets done.

"Ye're only fooling yerselves lads"

Leiva

Kess73 wrote: »

The kid seems to have had enough of the club. Going by past tweets and comments by his family, it would appear that the coaching set up under Hodgson and under Kenny had the kid wanting to go home and get involved in a set up that was based more around technique than running laps.

I see him just running down his contract and leaving tbh. Come January I expect to see him enter into talks with a Spanish club with a view to leaving next summer. Would not be overly surprised to see him ask for a move before this summer is out either.

Nearly every club looses a starlet at some stage, but imo Suso will be one of those players in a few years that will be right up there with the best, and we will be kicking ourselves .

I know if the kid wants out then what are we supposed to do, but if I was Rodgers I would be planning his inclusion in any game possible (without weakening the squad of course) and I would start with the Europa.

If we had Woy or Kenny I would be resigned already to loosing him, but I hold out hope the Rodgers with his years at youth level management will have the experience and know how to spot and keep our academy stars.

Kess73

Leiva wrote: »

Nearly every club looses a starlet at some stage, but imo Suso will be one of those players in a few years that will be right up there with the best, and we will be kicking ourselves .

I know if the kid wants out then what are we supposed to do, but if I was Rodgers I would be planning his inclusion in any game possible (without weakening the squad of course) and I would start with the Europa.

If we had Woy or Kenny I would be resigned already to loosing him, but I hold out hope the Rodgers with his years at youth level management will have the experience and know how to spot and keep our academy stars.

Easier said than done once a person has decided they are in the wrong club and country. Think of a person who is sick of their job and to their mind, rightly or wrongly, have been spun bs over a sustained period of time. Anything that a new boss does that resembles what the old ones did would just make the wantaway person more determined to go.

From what I gather, the player was offered an extension on his contract, with improved financial terms, and he turned it down. If we get to the end of the summer and there is still nothing on the contract front, then expect him to be gone as quickly as he can.

Leiva

Sterling ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At5EFjzWLLk

Borini..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc-ZU_aq-sM

whatawaster

Suso has given no indication that he thinks he is in the wrong country, in fact I've heard him speak (and tweet) very warmly about Liverpool and England.

I think his problem is the players who are going to be involved ahead of him next Thursday have not all done more than him to earn a chance.

We need to extend his contract, tell him he is very much part of our future plans and loan him to a decent Championship side.

Leiva

whatawaster wrote: »

Suso has given no indication that he thinks he is in the wrong country, in fact I've heard him speak (and tweet) very warmly about Liverpool and England.

I think his problem is the players who are going to be involved ahead of him next Thursday have not all done more than him to earn a chance.

We need to extend his contract, tell him he is very much part of our future plans and loan him to a decent Championship side.

Brighton for me . I would like to see him in Poyets side .

redzerdrog

tika taka my bollox anyone can keep the ball in their own half, the lack of chances created if very worrying!! This is gona be one hell of a frustrating year!!

Kess73

whatawaster wrote: »

Suso has given no indication that he thinks he is in the wrong country, in fact I've heard him speak (and tweet) very warmly about Liverpool and England.

I think his problem is the players who are going to be involved ahead of him next Thursday have not all done more than him to earn a chance.

We need to extend his contract, tell him he is very much part of our future plans and loan him to a decent Championship side.

He has already refused a contract extension this summer, and he has posted comments on his twitter about living in England that were not glowing only to take them down quickly like he did with the bit in yesterday's/today's tweet.

MD1990

redzerdrog wrote: »

tika taka my bollox anyone can keep the ball in their own half, the lack of chances created if very worrying!! This is gona be one hell of a frustrating year!!

its pre-season with alot of youth players
have a bit of patience
plus im sure we will have some new signings in the 3-4 weeks

Leiva

redzerdrog wrote: »

tika taka my bollox anyone can keep the ball in their own half, the lack of chances created if very worrying!! This is gona be one hell of a frustrating year!!

Don't look to much into it . It was good to see the team pass with confidence but there was no link up play/player between the midfield and front .
When we have a full strength team out, with Suarez, then you will see a lot more chances created.

Yes it will be a frustrating season but let's all think small steps .
Give me what I seen this pre-season any day over the absolute tripe that we had to endure with Woy, so let's not forget the positive path we are on .

djPSB

Leiva wrote: »

redzerdrog wrote: »

tika taka my bollox anyone can keep the ball in their own half, the lack of chances created if very worrying!! This is gona be one hell of a frustrating year!!

Don't look to much into it . It was good to see the team pass with confidence but there was no link up play/player between the midfield and front .
When we have a full strength team out, with Suarez, then you will see a lot more chances created.

Yes it will be a frustrating season but let's all think small steps .
Give me what I seen this pre-season any day over the absolute tripe that we had to endure with Woy, so let's not forget the positive path we are on .

The three central mid fielders are key to keeping possession which Spearing and Adam are facking up at the minute.

The wingers are responsible for creating the majority of our chances, which is a department we are lacking in at the minute. There's a lack of pace up front.

Swansea's players were more suitable to playing this style of play. But if given the time, Rodgers will be able to implement it at Liverpool.

I'e expect it to be this time next year before he has fully arranged the squad to suit his style of play.

murpho999

redzerdrog wrote: »

tika taka my bollox anyone can keep the ball in their own half, the lack of chances created if very worrying!! This is gona be one hell of a frustrating year!!

FFS....give them a chance to adapt to coach's ideas and get a full team up to full speed.

whatawaster

Kess73 wrote: »

He has already refused a contract extension this summer, and he has posted comments on his twitter about living in England that were not glowing only to take them down quickly like he did with the bit in yesterday's/today's tweet.

When was he offered a contract?

whatawaster

redzerdrog wrote: »

tika taka my bollox anyone can keep the ball in their own half, the lack of chances created if very worrying!! This is gona be one hell of a frustrating year!!

FFS - we have been missing all our first team attacking players.

We played a Roma side who are not only of a high quality, but much further along in their fitness than we are, and we created quite a few good chances.

redzerdrog

djPSB wrote: »

The three central mid fielders are key to keeping possession which Spearing and Adam are facking up at the minute.

The wingers are responsible for creating the majority of our chances, which is a department we are lacking in at the minute. There's a lack of pace up front.

Swansea's players were more suitable to playing this style of play. But if given the time, Rodgers will be able to implement it at Liverpool.

I'e expect it to be this time next year before he has fully arranged the squad to suit his style of play.

its a joke we actually have feck all wingers yet the only players we are linked with are CMs which we have plenty of!! We need at least 2 wingers and one of them should be good enough to walk into the 1st 11.

am cranky because i was out last night and i am working at 12 but i still got up this morning to watch the match from last night and it was brutle!!!

MD1990

redzerdrog wrote: »

its a joke we actually have feck all wingers yet the only players we are linked with are CMs which we have plenty of!! We need at least 2 wingers and one of them should be good enough to walk into the 1st 11.

am cranky because i was out last night and i am working at 12 but i still got up this morning to watch the match from last night and it was brutle!!!

yeah we badly need 2 new wingers
we really lack speed in attack
i don't know why we didn't go for Junior Hoillett

Jesus Wept

Hurry up and sign some decent players ffs.

Milkers

I know he can be frustrating but Walcott would bring a lot to this team.

cson

Milkers wrote: »

I know he can be frustrating but Walcott would bring a lot to this team.

I'll be surprised if he goes to you but I do think he's a little underrated. His stats are comparable to the top players in his position in the league. Plus Messi said this about him...

Messi wrote:

I can only speak from experience but he was one of the most dangerous players I have ever played against

If Messi said it...

Jesus Wept

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/07/29/liverpool-set-to-offer-e18m-to-scoop-up-manchester-united-target-nicolas-gaitan/66178/

Suso obviously wants out so either loan him out or get rid.

Also give him a slap for his attitude.

Kerrigooney

Andy Carroll wrote: »

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2012/07/29/liverpool-set-to-offer-e18m-to-scoop-up-manchester-united-target-nicolas-gaitan/66178/

3 goals in 25 appearances isn`t great,is it?

Maybe he hit the post a lot...should fit right in.:pac:

Shankly Gates

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suso obviously wants out so either loan him out or get rid.

Also give him a slap for his attitude.

He wins the Youth Euros, gets the call up for the Liverpool American Tour, plays very well on each opportunity and is then sent back to the reserves.

It'd be hard not to be pissed off at that

Shankly Gates

Shankly Gates wrote: »

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suso obviously wants out so either loan him out or get rid.
Also give him a slap for his attitude.

He wins the Youth Euros, gets the call up for the Liverpool American Tour, plays very well on each opportunity and is then sent bak to the reserves.

It'd be hard not to be pissed off at that

Yeah of course, but to publicly state it on twitter?

An act of idiocy of the highest degree. Hopefully he gets severely punished.

djPSB

rarnes1 wrote: »

Shankly Gates wrote: »

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suso obviously wants out so either loan him out or get rid.
Also give him a slap for his attitude.

He wins the Youth Euros, gets the call up for the Liverpool American Tour, plays very well on each opportunity and is then sent bak to the reserves.

It'd be hard not to be pissed off at that

Yeah of course, but to publicly state it on twitter?

An act of idiocy of the highest degree. Hopefully he gets severely punished.

Shelvey did the same at the end of last season.

NukaCola

djPSB wrote: »

Shelvey did the same at the end of last season.

That doesn't make it ok.....

whatawaster

rarnes1 wrote: »

Yeah of course, but to publicly state it on twitter?

An act of idiocy of the highest degree. Hopefully he gets severely punished.

Senior players vent their unhappiness about not playing all the time. Just because it's twitter and he's not saying it off the record to a journalist doesn't make it any worse.

He should be told to cop on, and that should be the extent of his punishment imo

klose

Oh well looks like suso wont be here much longer, good call whoever it was called that a couple of weeks ago!

CL7

I remember Suarez acting up a few times when he was substituted last season. That was live in front of millions and he wasn't severely punished. Something should be said to Suso but lets not blow this out of proportion.

BorneTobyWilde

I thought Suso would be playing big part in Europa league
Cole
Spearing
Aqua, Reason he won't make bench in premier league

Yea something wrong there,

djPSB

NukaCola wrote: »

djPSB wrote: »

Shelvey did the same at the end of last season.

That doesn't make it ok.....

Correct.

NabyLadistheman

Hoping for a big couple of weeks with player's in and going out. It'll be quiet disturbing if we kick off the season in the position we are in now. Say what you like about Rodgers giving youth a whirl but come the start of the season these players should only be blooded from the bench - we cannot be relying on them to make an instant impact.

We have not identified and strenghtened the areas where we have struggled last season. No DM, Winger, CF (aprreciate Borini, but still short here) and judging by the pre-season left back is now a problem area. It is a bit like ground-hog day here regarding Cole, Aqualani etc. We seem to have an abundance of midfielders all as average as each other. Why we are persisting with these I'll never know. Id sell the 2 mentioned along with one of Adam / Spearing. When you strip it down the squad of players are average at best. I fear for us going into the season with the squad as it is. Rodgers really needs to hit the ground running and with the fixtures the way they are it is not going to be easy. There is no real pace which is a massive worry.

I am usually an optimist but have been seriously disappointed with our activity so far this summer. Poor players on big wages should have been up for sale as soon as the season was over. And Downing seems to be getting little coverage, Id say it would frighten ya if we knew the money he is on!

daingeanrob

Suarezistheman wrote: »

Hoping for a big couple of weeks with player's in and going out. It'll be quiet disturbing if we kick off the season in the position we are in now. Say what you like about Rodgers giving youth a whirl but come the start of the season these players should only be blooded from the bench - we cannot be relying on them to make an instant impact.

We have not identified and strenghtened the areas where we have struggled last season. No DM, Winger, CF (aprreciate Borini, but still short here) and judging by the pre-season left back is now a problem area. It is a bit like ground-hog day here regarding Cole, Aqualani etc. We seem to have an abundance of midfielders all as average as each other. Why we are persisting with these I'll never know. Id sell the 2 mentioned along with one of Adam / Spearing. When you strip it down the squad of players are average at best. I fear for us going into the season with the squad as it is. Rodgers really needs to hit the ground running and with the fixtures the way they are it is not going to be easy. There is no real pace which is a massive worry.

I am usually an optimist but have been seriously disappointed with our activity so far this summer. Poor players on big wages should have been up for sale as soon as the season was over. And Downing seems to be getting little coverage, Id say it would frighten ya if we knew the money he is on!

i agree, we need a few more leaving and to sign a few more first team players. ramirez would be a great start

klose

Yeah the ramierez story is picking up again since he scored for uraguay the other day, could just be because of the goal though. With suarez and coates here we've a nice incentive for him to come here if theres other parties interested. Seems a good player, now that would be a great signing.
I remember the borini story cropped up then cooled down to a point where nothing was heard of it and then it cropped up again and the deal was done. Hopefully the same will happen with ramierez, as the story popped up, colled down and here it is again and dempsey too, fair enough to think they're still on.
Also I dont think its fair how some people are expecting him to move out downing/adam or any of the others of kenny/comollis disaster signings and contracts.

NukaCola

whippedcream wrote: »

Yeah the ramierez story is picking up again since he scored for uraguay the other day, could just be because of the goal though. With suarez and coates here we've a nice incentive for him to come here if theres other parties interested. Seems a good player, now that would be a great signing.
I remember the borini story cropped up then cooled down to a point where nothing was heard of it and then it cropped up again and the deal was done. Hopefully the same will happen with ramierez, as the story popped up, colled down and here it is again and dempsey too, fair enough to think they're still on.
Also I dont think its fair how some people are expecting him to move out downing/adam or any of the others of kenny/comollis disaster signings and contracts.

Who?

klose

NukaCola wrote: »

Who?

Ah tis been said around here at times, not gonna trawl through looking for quotes

NukaCola

whippedcream wrote: »

Ah tis been said around here at times, not gonna trawl through looking for quotes

I dont think anyone is expecting what you suggest.....

joe123

Anyone thats interested, Uruguay and Senegal are on BBC (red button) at the moment.

missingtime

Ramirez hit the post earlier. Snap him up!

Leiva

missingtime wrote: »

Ramirez hit the post earlier. Snap him up!

They are getting beat 2-0 by 10 man Senagal but Ramirez by far the best player.

murpho999

joe123 wrote: »

Anyone thats interested, Uruguay and Senegal are on BBC (red button) at the moment.

Nah...for me it's red button, female beach volleyball and a box of tissues!

amiable

murpho999 wrote: »

Nah...for me it's red button, female beach volleyball and a box of tissues!

Very posh

~Rebel~

rarnes1 wrote: »

Shankly Gates wrote: »

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suso obviously wants out so either loan him out or get rid.
Also give him a slap for his attitude.

He wins the Youth Euros, gets the call up for the Liverpool American Tour, plays very well on each opportunity and is then sent bak to the reserves.

It'd be hard not to be pissed off at that

Yeah of course, but to publicly state it on twitter?

An act of idiocy of the highest degree. Hopefully he gets severely punished.

To be fair to him, the tweet was only up for less than a minute, and came just after a transatlantic flight. Probably beyond shattered tired when he got that news.

delw

Football Agent on form :pac:

Football Agent ‏@FootballAgent49
Liverpool are trying to bring in Kaka on loan, one of several loan moves lined up.

klose

delw wrote: »

Football Agent on form :pac:

Football Agent ‏@FootballAgent49
Liverpool are trying to bring in Kaka on loan, one of several loan moves lined up.

:pac::pac:
Seen on twitter somewhere that liverpool where lining up a loan deal for a big name player, oh twitter bs how I love thee.

He needs to get away from madrid though

Phoenix Park

Kaka is still an incredible player, wonderful control and eye for a pass. No chance of him even glancing at us, he's out of our league. Must be on enormous wages too. I'd like to see him leave Madrid anyway, too good not to be playing every game when fit.

ThunbergsAreGo

Bellamy with a great ball to Giggs for a goal