Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

klose

SlickRic wrote: »

i assume this is heavily laden with sarcasm.

That it is, sarcasm is flavour of the month at the moment so said id throw me hat at it.

Dr.frinkwithsarcasmdetector.jpg

5starpool

Andy Carroll wrote: »

He says this every week.



This is not happening so get over it.

You might want to change your avatar methinks.

super_furry

So torn. I don't know if I'm meant to buy a Chevrolet or boycott them now!

D'Agger

Leiva wrote: »

..and still no news on Marco Bueno who was to join us on a pre contract this summer .

We'll probably sign him, then play him in the reserves, not give him too many chances or even loan him out. Then let him run down his contract and excel someplace else.

klose

Model stuff

Gbear

whippedcream wrote: »

Model stuff

Jaysus, don't be posting that. You'll turn the whole lot of us gay! :pac:

Kess73

whippedcream wrote: »

Model stuff

Looks like a rocker, plays like an emo. :pac:

Gbear

Kess73 wrote: »

Looks like a rocker, plays like an emo. :pac:

"Nobody understands my knock downs.":(

super_furry

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/07/30/3276041/dempsey-pulls-out-of-fulham-tour-to-force-liverpool-move

Goal.com (yes, I know) claiming that Dempsey has refused to travel on Fulham's pre-season to force through a move.

MD1990

super_furry wrote: »

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/07/30/3276041/dempsey-pulls-out-of-fulham-tour-to-force-liverpool-move

Goal.com (yes, I know) claiming that Dempsey has refused to travel on Fulham's pre-season to force through a move.

id say its true
Dempsey hasn't played at all so far in pre-season

Morzadec

Wouldn't be too surprised if we ended up waiting it out with Fulham and eventually making the signing for £7-8m (probably undisclosed) towards the end of the window.

£10m is too much for a 29 year-old of his quality with one year on his contract.

I would imagine that Fulham can't afford to let an asset who could fetch £7m now go for free in a year's time. Add to this the player's clear desire to leave and alleged reluctance to play until he is allowed to do so and Fulham's hardline stance of £10m or nothing looks more and more difficult to maintain.

Adam and £2m should be a fair and good deal for all parties concerned imo

amiable

Andy Carroll wrote: »

#bringAquaback

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A

8-10

PRAF wrote: »

Agree with the above. Just goes to show you that talent will only get you so far. Players need to have the right attitude as well as the right talent. I was worried about Aqua's prospects when I saw he missed the start of pre-season because he was getting married. C'mon dude, there's a new manager to impress and you decide to take a week off work to get married.

I'm sorry, decent point and all, but have you seen his wife? Like him or loathe him, the guy knows how to sign a tasty contract.

Can't post her pic as I'm on my phone

Jesus Wept

Morzadec wrote: »

Wouldn't be too surprised if we ended up waiting it out with Fulham and eventually making the signing for £7-8m (probably undisclosed) towards the end of the window.

£10m is too much for a 29 year-old of his quality with one year on his contract.

I would imagine that Fulham can't afford to let an asset who could fetch £7m now go for free in a year's time. Add to this the player's clear desire to leave and alleged reluctance to play until he is allowed to do so and Fulham's hardline stance of £10m or nothing looks more and more difficult to maintain.

Adam and £2m should be a fair and good deal for all parties concerned imo

I imagine they'd prefer cash.

Leiva

Any of you guys solicitors ?

I'm in the process of house sale & purchase if you want any business .

Jesus Wept

Leiva wrote: »

Any of you guys solicitors ?

I'm in the process of house sale & purchase if you want any business .

I'll give it a lash.

Nuri Sahin

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Ian Dennis @Iandennisbbc


West Ham have agreed a 2m pound loan fee with Liverpool for Andy Carroll. Its with a view to a 17m deal providing #WHUFC stay in the PL.

The Radiator

Balls. If it's true

skydish79

-Ade- wrote: »

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Carroll has said if he were to move he wanted a move to club in europe.

Can liverpool force this through

Fear we are going to be left with a player who will be pissed off with the club

redzerdrog

a joke if it is true, rodgers hasnt even given him a chance while joke hole is still about the club. we are going into the new season with 2 strikers in suarez and the unproven borini. Rodgers better have something big up his sleave because this leave us needing at least 3 attacking players.

klose

sh1tstorm incoming!!!!!!!!

The Radiator

skydish79 wrote: »

Carroll has said if he were to move he wanted a move to club not in europe.

What? Got a link?

skydish79

The Radiator wrote: »

What? Got a link?

sorry edit that to a club in europe!

smileyj1987

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19056545

Looks like carroll could be going now .

daithijjj

Its on BBC world service, 2m fee, 17m if they stay up. He might not want to leave but Kevin Nolan must be in his ear.

ollie1

I hope they have someone good lined up to take his place.

Blatter

daithijjj wrote: »

Its on BBC world service, 2m fee, 17m if they stay up. He might not want to leave but Kevin Nolan must be in his ear.

AFAIK Carroll has the same agent as Sam Allardyce as well. I doubt negotiations would have got this far if Carroll wasn't open to a move there.

Didnt Rodgers say that Carroll would not be loaned out

Full of BS buck.

Once again we are getting rode in deals.

I hope Carroll rams in 20 goals this season.

opr

Rodgers better have a bright new sparkly wheel barrow all picked out and ready to go.

Opr

mike65

I'm a bit confused (not to say ga-ga), has Aquilani gone and to who?

Paully D

So much for Rodgers saying there would be ''absolutely no way'' of Carroll going on loan then.

RayCon

daithijjj wrote: »

Its on BBC world service, 2m fee, 17m if they stay up.

What if they dont stay up ?

super_furry

Jesus, would have thought Liverpool would have learned from the Aqualani fiasco. This Carroll deal will probably end the same way, ****ing terrible business and football decision. Mind you, so was paying that only for him in the first place so this only compounds Dalglish's error.

skywalker

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Aqua is like the evil dude in a horror movie. He is not gone, he will never be gone.
At some point when everyone thinks he is gone and have finally breathed a collective sigh of relief, he will jump out of nowhere and stab us all.

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Not that I disagree with that analogy, but doesnt that make Andy the long haired buxom bird who only lasts a few scenes?

~Rebel~

RayCon wrote: »

What if they dont stay up ?

He'd come back to us. West Ham simply couldn't afford him or his wages if they went down. It's likely he'll score more in a West Ham team built around him than he would for us, so even if he comes back after, he will probably be more saleable.

To be honest, if we're set on selling, 19 million pounds overall is a pretty great deal (the fact most of it comes next year really makes very little difference to other deals anyway, they're always spread over a few years).

If you consider that Bent has consistently scored goals and has been sold at 16m, 10m and 18m, Carroll is not a 19 million pound player.
(Deal is only good if West Ham HAVE to buy if they stay up)

mike65

super_furry wrote: »

Jesus, would have thought Liverpool would have learned from the Aqualani fiasco. This Carroll deal will probably end the same way, ****ing terrible business and football decision. Mind you, so was paying that only for him in the first place so this only compounds Dalglish's error.

Disagree, West Ham are paying a sum and paying all his wages (unlike either Aqua loan), the completion of the deal is based on staying up which is in West hams own interests (and they can certainly stay up I reckon), whereas the idiotic "points" deal with Milan was just facepalm stuff. They knew they could string Liverpool along and then not complete the deal.

2 million plus 4.2 million wages and 16 million next summer is as good as we could ever see.

MD1990

West Ham deny deal is done
Terrible deal if it happens

daithijjj

RayCon wrote: »

What if they dont stay up ?

He comes back to us.

Edit.........do people remember Tom Werner saying we dont want to decrease the wages, we want to increase them but get value or something similar?. Keep it in mind, thats all im saying, over next 6 months. Talk the talk......they have spent fk all.

Joni23

There's a lot of talk about David Villa coming in on loan once the Carroll move is done.

Devilman40k

West Ham have denied it

8-10

But if they do stay up are they iron-clad contract obliged to buy at that price?

BorneTobyWilde

Ba has a 7 million release clause
So strong chance he could be snapped up by another premiership club,
So maybe Newcastle will now lodge a bid for Andy in next few hours

If they better the offer from West Ham, then i'm sure Andy will choose Newcastle

Still think its crazy, Andy is a good person to have at club,
Can change a game. Just when we get him fit we do this

And when will this exciting player be signed
The one Rogers spoke of????????????????????
He said fans will love him????? Where is he >???????????

smileyj1987

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

And when will this exciting player be signedThe one Rogers spoke of????????????????????He said fans will love him????? Where is he >???????????

It could have been Borinin he was talking about .

Morzadec

If it's £2m and his wages for a year and a further £17m on top of that if they stay up (and they probably should) then I think we're getting a very good deal on Carroll (if we forget about the outlandish fee we paid in the first place and judge the player on his merits).

Don't at all understand this idea that it's a terrible deal.

Was anyone seriously expecting to get more than £19m for Caroll?! Seriously??

BorneTobyWilde

smileyj1987 wrote: »

It could have been Borinin he was talking about .

BORNIN IS OPPOSITE OF EXCITING!!!!!!!!!!

The Radiator

I don't like the sound of 'Borinin'

It sounds too much like a certain ponytailed striker before Carroll

smileyj1987

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
West Ham deny deal done to sign Andy Carroll

I find this very strange , one minute he is gone the next he is not . I would just like to know whats going on .

The Radiator

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
West Ham deny deal done to sign Andy Carroll

I find this very strange , one minute he is gone the next he is not . I would just like to know whats going on .

People are making up bullsht stories and the gullible fools are buying it, that's what's going on

Fowler87

Paully D wrote: »

So much for Rodgers saying there would be ''absolutely no way'' of Carroll going on loan then.

Well it all depends on the terms ie if Liverpool will be paying his wages for this season. Hope not especially as he'll be sold for 17m the season after.

Shame the big fella isn't gonna get a chance under BR regardless of recouping some of the ridiculous fee paid for him

Knex*

If Carroll is going we better sign 3-4 players in the next week, or two at a max.

Dempsey and Allen (or equivalents), a winger and a striker all will be needed or else we will look desperately light ahead of the new season.