Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

Knex*

Maybe we misread, or his English didn't come across as well as he intended, and its actually Enrique who is house hunting with Suso crashing there for the time being?

Anyone's guess at this stage when it comes to Suso.

Melion

Gbear wrote: »

Everything coming out of the club and around it in the media is just conflicting nonsense. I'd say stick to completely ignoring everything unless it's actually confirmed on the club's website. There's only 1 month left of the transfer window. Bury your head in the sand until then and maybe, just maybe, you might make it into next season with your mind still in one piece.

No journalists have a clue what's happening at the club and it's driving them mad. Personally, I love it.

amiable

Melion wrote: »

I hope if Suso does leave permanently then the Kenny lovers give him the majority of the blame for it. His refusal to play him at all last season was baffling. His form had dipped a bit but he was still a better option to have on the bench than most Kenny had on it. I seem to recall 4 defenders and a keeper on it for one game.

So you wanted Kenny to select a player that was struggling for the reserves?

amiable

Gbear wrote: »

Everything coming out of the club and around it in the media is just conflicting nonsense. I'd say stick to completely ignoring everything unless it's actually confirmed on the club's website. There's only 1 month left of the transfer window. Bury your head in the sand until then and maybe, just maybe, you might make it into next season with your mind still in one piece.

If Ben Smith is reporting there is something happening it's highly likely to be true.

Melion

amiable wrote: »

So you wanted Kenny to select a player that was struggling for the reserves?

He struggled in the first half of last season, looked like his regular self in 2nd half. I would have rathered him on the bench than 4 defenders, yes.

amiable

Is that squad list not just for the qualifiers?

LuckyLloyd

Melion wrote: »

I hope if Suso does leave permanently then the Kenny lovers give him the majority of the blame for it. His refusal to play him at all last season was baffling. His form had dipped a bit but he was still a better option to have on the bench than most Kenny had on it. I seem to recall 4 defenders and a keeper on it for one game.

Rodgers:

- couldn't convince Maxi to hang around;
- couldn't convince Aqua to hang around;
- can't convince Suso to hang around?;

Sterling?
Agger?
Skrtl?

Suarez?

I'm waiting for real, concrete achievements. Plenty of empty plaudits flowing around the media, but that don't mean nothing.

amiable

Melion wrote: »

He struggled in the first half of last season, looked like his regular self in 2nd half. I would have rathered him on the bench than 4 defenders, yes.

He struggled most of the season to be fair. He didn't merit a place on the bench.

Jesus Wept

It appears that Rodgers is trying to do what I used to do on Football Manager.
Take over United and then attempt to sell all the players.

LuckyLloyd

amiable wrote: »

Is that squad list not just for the qualifiers?

Yes it would be. Finalised lists for European competition are to be submitted around both transfer deadlines...

joe123

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Rodgers:

- couldn't convince Maxi to hang around;
- couldn't convince Aqua to hang around;
- can't convince Suso to hang around?;

Sterling?
Agger?
Skrtl?

Suarez?

I'm waiting for real, concrete achievements. Plenty of empty plaudits flowing around the media, but that don't mean nothing.

You're a joke at this stage.

Chucky the tree

Andy Carroll wrote: »

It appears that Rodgers is trying to do what I used to do on Football Manager.
Take over United and then attempt to sell all the players.

You would have been a lot more successful if you sold their good players instead of their **** ones.

Melion

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Rodgers:

- couldn't convince Maxi to hang around;
- couldn't convince Aqua to hang around;
- can't convince Suso to hang around?;

Sterling?
Agger?
Skrtl?

Suarez?

I'm waiting for real, concrete achievements. Plenty of empty plaudits flowing around the media, but that don't mean nothing.

Sorry have Suarez,sterling,agger, Suso and Skrtel left? Links?

whatawaster

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Rodgers:

- couldn't convince Maxi to hang around;
- couldn't convince Aqua to hang around;
- can't convince Suso to hang around?;

Sterling?
Agger?
Skrtl?

Suarez?

I'm waiting for real, concrete achievements. Plenty of empty plaudits flowing around the media, but that don't mean nothing.

Maxi was on his way out long before Rodgers came in.
Any evidence he tried to convince Aquilani to stay?
Any CONCRETE evidence that he tried to convince Suso to hang around but the young lad rejected his overtures?

Load of nonsense.

Season hasn't even started yet and you are one of the very few making judgements.

niallo27

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Rodgers:

- couldn't convince Maxi to hang around;
- couldn't convince Aqua to hang around;
- can't convince Suso to hang around?;

Sterling?
Agger?
Skrtl?

Suarez?

I'm waiting for real, concrete achievements. Plenty of empty plaudits flowing around the media, but that don't mean nothing.

I wasnt overly excited myself with Rodgers getting the job but come on give the man a chance we havent kicked a football yet.

LuckyLloyd

joe123 wrote: »

You're a joke at this stage.

Your opinion doesn't concern me.

klose

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Rodgers out.

Indeed, is there anything to be said about petey gulacsi though??

LuckyLloyd

Melion wrote: »

Sorry have Suarez,sterling,agger, Suso and Skrtel left? Links?

They are big pieces (to varying degrees) that will require keeping over the coming transfer windows. They will need to buy into Rodger's vision and achievements if they are to sign new contracts. I would have thought that was obvious mind...

LuckyLloyd

niallo27 wrote: »

I wasnt overly excited myself with Rodgers getting the job but come on give the man a chance we havent kicked a football yet.

I see no reason to trust or respect him at this stage, after all he has barely managed at the highest level before coming here. He will have to earn both.

event

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Rodgers:

- couldn't convince Maxi to hang around;
- couldn't convince Aqua to hang around;
- can't convince Suso to hang around?;

Sterling?
Agger?
Skrtl?

Suarez?

I'm waiting for real, concrete achievements. Plenty of empty plaudits flowing around the media, but that don't mean nothing.

you're aware he's been at the club for 2 months?

Melion

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

They are big pieces (to varying degrees) that will require keeping over the coming transfer windows. They will need to buy into Rodger's vision and achievements if they are to sign new contracts. I would have thought that was obvious mind...

So despite the fact that NONE OF THEM have mentioned leaving the club you've decided to use them as a stick to.beat BR with? You've become a parody of yourself.

Jesus Wept

niallo27

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I see no reason to trust or respect him at this stage, after all he has barely managed at the highest level before coming here. He will have to earn both.

You have to give him a chance to earn them though, you dont seem to be giving him a chance. It will wreck your head if you trying to be proved right that he is not good enough but seeing liverpool struggle, a bit like the situation with Roy.

opr

amiable wrote: »

Is that squad list not just for the qualifiers?

Here's the way it works.

18.13 List A has to be submitted by the following fixed deadlines:
a) 25 June 2012 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the first qualifying round;
b) 13 July 2012 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the second qualifying round;
c) 27 July 2012 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the third qualifying round;
d) 13 August 2012 (24.00 CET) for all matches in the play-off round;
e) 3 September 2012 (24.00 CET) for all further matches from the first match
in the group stage up to and including the final.

18.14 For the three qualifying rounds and the play-offs, a club may register a
maximum of one new eligible player on List A after the above-mentioned
deadlines, provided the quota of locally trained players is respected. Such
registration must be completed by 24.00 CET on the day before the relevant
first-leg match and the club's association must confirm in writing that the new
player is eligible to play at domestic level at this time.

Opr

LuckyLloyd

event wrote: »

you're aware he's been at the club for 2 months?

Fully aware, something that those posting fawning media pieces would do well to remember.

Melion wrote: »

So despite the fact that NONE OF THEM have mentioned leaving the club you've decided to use them as a stick to.beat BR with? You've become a parody of yourself.

Well, Maxi has left the club. None of the rest have made a commitment to the club since he has arrived.

He started at 0 with me, he needs to achieve things before he holds any points. Until then, EVERYTHING is up for intense scrutiny. As it should be.

ASOT

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

Melion

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Well, Maxi has left the club. None of the rest have made a commitment to the club since he has arrived.

He started at 0 with me, he needs to achieve things before he holds any points. Until then, EVERYTHING is up for intense scrutiny. As it should be.

Pepe hasn't committed, nor Gerrard, nor Johnson, Lucas. Should every player come out and say they want to stay to make you happy?

LuckyLloyd

niallo27 wrote: »

You have to give him a chance to earn them though, you dont seem to be giving him a chance. It will wreck your head if you trying to be proved right that he is not good enough but seeing liverpool struggle, a bit like the situation with Roy.

Believe me, I pray I'm proven dead wrong. The alternative fills me with dread.

LuckyLloyd

Melion wrote: »

Pepe hasn't committed, nor Gerrard, nor Johnson, Lucas. Should every player come out and say they want to stay to make you happy?

They are all on longer term contracts and / or have not been linked with moves away. Come on now, focus - you don't need every little thing explained.

Knex*

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

Surreal stuff this.

CL7

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Believe me, I pray I'm proven dead wrong.

lol. I doubt many believe you Lloyd. I certainly don't anyway.

G.K.

joe123 wrote: »

You're a joke at this stage.

Can we avoid posts like this please. I understand that there's a differing of opinion in here, I myself fall firmly on one side of it, but we can discuss peacefully, for the sake of everyone, please?

Everyone, take this as a warning.

LuckyLloyd

CL7 wrote: »

lol. I doubt many believe you Lloyd. I certainly don't anyway.

Meh, believe what you like. I've been here years - it should be clear from my posting record where my priorities lie.

Knex*

CL7 wrote: »

lol. I doubt many believe you Lloyd. I certainly don't anyway.

I would of said it was quite obvious Llyod wants the best for the club.

ASOT

Knex. wrote: »

Surreal stuff this.

It's fairly savage alright, wasn't expecting anything like that!

Leiva

It seems to me (and concerns me) that Rodgers is trying to build up the funds to purchase his signings.
Its like everything was on hold til he got back and now we are seeing lots of activity since they landed- that's madness !

That only leaves one choice and that's panic sell and panic buy, cause in all fairness there is feck all time left and we are pretty short, and will be even shorter when the players on the market are shifted.

BorneTobyWilde

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

The Radiator

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Meh, believe what you like. I've been here years - it should be clear from my posting record where my priorities lie.

Annoying everyone with your constant pessimism?

ctrl-alt-delete

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

What a choice of words. It reads like the person is now dead, unless it was an actual mole, in which case it should have been kept as ones that can leak transfer stories don't come around too often, if ever.

Anfield Mole twitter account to be set up soon anyways.

Knex*

Leiva wrote: »

It seems to me (and concerns me) that Rodgers is trying to build up the funds to purchase his signings.
Its like everything was on hold til he got back and now we are seeing lots of activity since they landed- that's madness !

That only leaves one choice and that's panic sell and panic buy, cause in all fairness there is feck all time left and we are pretty short, and will be even shorter when the players on the market are shifted.

Just in case anyone didn't read it, or can't read the link that ASOT posted, it states that Liverpool spread the Aquilani and Carroll rumours in order to flush out a mole.

Personally, I have no idea what to make of that. But considering how tight lipped the club were in the past over transfers I could believe it.

LuckyLloyd

The Radiator wrote: »

Annoying everyone with your constant pessimism?

Sure bro, I've been consistently pessimistic for six and a bit years. That is totally my posting record. Good job, good effort.

DDC1990

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

Made up on RAWK I think. Fairly clear that its a bullshít story.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=295997.0

CL7

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Meh, believe what you like. I've been here years - it should be clear from my posting record where my priorities lie.

I've been a lurker here for a good few years and have read many of your posts. Can't think of many I disagreed with. You've seem to have lost all sense of objectivity since Kenny's sacking though imo.

ASOT

DDC1990 wrote: »

Made up on RAWK I think. Fairly clear that its a bullshít story.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=295997.0

Ah ya never know, would be unreal if true. :pac:

djPSB

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

No more news stories for Duncan Jenkins.

LuckyLloyd

ASOT wrote: »

http://www.lfcts.com/liverpool-make-up-transfers-to-discover-mole/

Interesting

How reliable is that source?

G.K.

CL7 wrote: »

lol. I doubt many believe you Lloyd. I certainly don't anyway.

I'm probably one of the biggest optimists for Rodgers' regieme in here (though obviously not Pool fan), and indeed I'm writing a long post on why I think the protracted Carroll deal would be a good move for Liverpool (though ASOT's link kinda throws that up in the air).

Although I think he is misguided in his opinions on the matter, he has every right to hold his opinion, and his posts clearly show he cares hugely about the club, do they not?

ASOT

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

How reliable is that source?

Haven't a clue but it's interesting all the same!

donfers

ASOT wrote: »

Ah ya never know, would be unreal if true. :pac:

that mole stuff is garbage, do you think the likes of the bbc would use a source who was some shady unofficial corporate guy in a dark suit in the corner of a car park giving out info that the club didn't want released - jaysus the transfer garbage is bad enough but now we have garbage about transfer garbage, we are becoming the inception of the transfer window

djPSB

All this hunting the mole craic must be to create an exciting story line for our documentary.