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Beef LWG from grass

  • 19-07-2012 6:16pm
    #1
    bob charles
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    Collected a bull yesterday that I lent a friend last year. The bull was 370kilo's when I bought him and was running with 15 cows and a chars/bb X. Nice and shapely but not over the top as the farmer is a bit of a minimalist. Grass would be of poor quality (no fert/topping/herding) but grown on good ground. The bull was wintered outside with the herd on poor silage. He has had a LWG of 400kilo's approx in 400 days. So a kilo a day from grass alone and this guy also had to serve cows, impressive from a low maintenance system.


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  • #2
    Manoffeeling
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    There is a lot to be said for a certain amount of old style farming.


  • #3
    epfff
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    bob charles wrote: »
    Collected a bull yesterday that I lent a friend last year. The bull was 370kilo's when I bought him and was running with 15 cows and a chars/bb X. Nice and shapely but not over the top as the farmer is a bit of a minimalist. Grass would be of poor quality (no fert/topping/herding) but grown on good ground. The bull was wintered outside with the herd on poor silage. He has had a LWG of 400kilo's approx in 400 days. So a kilo a day from grass alone and this guy also had to serve cows, impressive from a low maintenance system.
    What age is he now at 670 ish kgs
    i think age and bulls equals serious thrive


  • #4
    Tipp Man
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    Manoffeeling wrote: »
    There is a lot to be said for a certain amount of old style farming.

    Well i will second this - definatly in beef farming


  • #5
    bob charles
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    epfff wrote: »
    What age is he now at 670 ish kgs
    i think age and bulls equals serious thrive

    he is 770kilos now and 27 months, will feed him on for a few months to put serious finish on him (someone will buy him at some price). Considering he done a kilo a day in poor conditions imagine what he would do if on quality grass and not chasing his ......:D, your man definitely didn't even dose him. would he have done 1.4kilos a day under proper treatment - maybe/maybe not as age is everything in bulls. I didn't see him between dropping him off and collecting him so don't know if his gain was constant our up and down. The winter silage would be of very average quality


  • #6
    blue5000
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    bob charles wrote: »
    he is 770kilos now and 27 months, will feed him on for a few months to put serious finish on him (someone will buy him at some price). Considering he done a kilo a day in poor conditions imagine what he would do if on quality grass and not chasing his ......:D, your man definitely didn't even dose him. would he have done 1.4kilos a day under proper treatment - maybe/maybe not as age is everything in bulls. I didn't see him between dropping him off and collecting him so don't know if his gain was constant our up and down. The winter silage would be of very average quality

    A lot of it was probably compensatory growth:D Are you sure it's the same bull, not just the same tags?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • #7
    bob charles
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    A lot of it was probably compensatory growth:D Are you sure it's the same bull, not just the same tags?

    that the thing I'm often harping on about, think its some new thinking. All my miserable heifers that spent the winter on beet tops (living on soil really) and a few cheap bales of hay have all being slaughtered in the last month at very good weights. they weren't worth tuppence on the 15th of feb when they swam of the field. I was ashamed to say they were mine they were so poor looking but they were as healthy as hares.


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