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50 Shades of Grey Phenomenom?!
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OakeyDokey wrote: »I am no where near being a feminist b
You don't believe in equality between men and women in the eyes of society and the law? That's a pity
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You don't believe in equality between men and women in the eyes of society and the law? That's a pity
:rolleyes: Course I do, I meant I don't consider myself a feminist.
Anyway, the book used to be called Masters of the Universe :rolleyes: and was Twilight fanfiction as another user mentioned. EL James posted the fanfiction online to read for free. Ana = Bella and Christian = Edward. There was drama over her just changing the names but not the story.0 -
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I know it's off topic so this is the last I'll say of it, but do you not see the problem in agreeing with the fundamentals of feminism but not identifying as a feminist?
I'm here to comment on the book's popularity but I have to step in here for a second - many people like myself who adamantly believe that the law shouldn't differentiate between men and women, and should hold human beings equal in matters of law, would argue that the word "feminism" has been poisoned by the modern third wave element which is about "equality, but only in areas where equality would benefit me".
I'm an "equalitist". I believe in equality for both genders, including areas in which it means I as a man will lose unfair privileges I have. When you hear the word "feminism" you don't exactly think of someone who would like to see father's rights improved AS WELL as improving areas in which women are disadvantaged, do you? :rolleyes:
The word "feminism" has the name of one gender embedded into it. Since I argue strongly against double standards affecting BOTH genders, I don't feel it's appropriate to align myself with one or the other. That does NOT mean I don't believe in equality.
Anyway back on topic, in terms of 50 shades of grey, my theory is that it's giving people who were always too hung up or embarrassed to think about their sexuality a proper outlet, for the first time.
Hey, if it leads to Irish society becoming less terrified of sex, why not!
On the issue of BDSM being horrible, some people are into that stuff. Just because it seems unthinkable for you to be turned on by it, why should we judge others who are? Everyone has their kinks, most people here just seem to have had too much "Irish Catholic Values" shoved down their throats to open their minds to them without the aid of a book like this :P
*puts on his anti flame shield and waits for the haters to start hating*
Sometimes I feel my beliefs are more suited to Joe Duffy than After Hours
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hatrickpatrick wrote: »Anyway back on topic, in terms of 50 shades of grey, my theory is that it's giving people who were always too hung up or embarrassed to think about their sexuality a proper outlet, for the first time.
Hey, if it leads to Irish society becoming less terrified of sex, why not!
That's fine, but I'm sure once this bubble has burst most of them will never buy an erotic book again... Now if there was a link to literotica at the back...hatrickpatrick wrote: »On the issue of BDSM being horrible, some people are into that stuff. Just because it seems unthinkable for you to be turned on by it, why should we judge others who are? Everyone has their kinks, most people here just seem to have had too much "Irish Catholic Values" shoved down their throats to open their minds to them without the aid of a book like this :P
*puts on his anti flame shield and waits for the haters to start hating*
Sometimes I feel my beliefs are more suited to Joe Duffy than After Hours
I'll admit I don't think there's anything wrong with BDSM until it starts affecting life outside the bedroom (low self esteem in other parts of life ie work) which is where some fanfiction and (apparently) this book takes it to. Makes BDSM an abusive relationship - which someone has already said in this thread (that the relationship in the book is abusive).
If I'm completly off about the plot of the book, forgive me. I'm just going on other people's posts.Deleted User wrote: »so women read this book notting is said
if a man read buys playboy/nuts mags there perves
and this is coming from a gay guy
Mags and porn website are explotitive - mostly re women, I've no idea about the men on the sites. The book is all paper and ink, no naked pics of anyone, no one exploited for someone else's gratification. I would think that is the main difference (to me). No one has ever said that is a man masturbates he's a perv - or at least no one has said it to me, and every book I read as a teen re growing bodies etc, said it was a perfectly natural thing to do, so it's not that element of it either.0 -
Irish version of 50 Shades of Grey doing the e-mail rounds:
‘Give it to me, give it to me’, he roared aggressively. Some days Mary hated working at Ulster Bank.
He slipped his hand under the red silk.. “You’re so beautiful in that dress.” “Feck off, it was only a euro in Penneys!”
Bríd’s knees were sore and her throat was raw…This was the longest Novena she’d ever attended.
“You’re so tight“, he said, “I’m from Cavan“ she replied.
Slowly he ran his finger down the middle, parting the pink softness, feeling the moist sticky centre. He loved a Mikado.
She quivered as I stroked her thighs. ‘Take me in the shower Sean!’ I whispered to her ‘Wait til I turn on the immersion’
Her underwear was wet as he pulled the rope. There’s great drying out today he thought as the clothes line hoisted
She wrapped her fingers around it and greedily pulled it towards her lips. 20 bottles for 15 quid at Centra! Bargain!
'It‘s so long! Never seen the likes of it!' exclaimed Maire, as she joined the dole queue
She widened her mouth, trying to fit it all in!! Juices ran down her face. Mary did love a kebab after Coppers
She was panting as she let out one final scream of pure pleasure. There was nothing like beating Kilkenny in the hurling
She took a deep breath as the shivers rolled down her hot body... Jaysus, she thought. The Vicks is kicking in now!
Come on! Pump it hard ... Real hard! But it was no use the tyre was definitely punctured!
He asked if she could handle more than one finger. She said she preferred Hob Nobs or a purple Schnack with her tea.
'Spread 'em', he said gruffly. Margie looked dolefully at the bags of fertilizer destined for the back field.0 -
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Decided to download this book about 6 weeks ago to see what all the hype was about. So many times I was tempted to stop reading it but I always ended up picking it back up again and finished it.
It was pure and utter shite, far and away the worst book I've ever read (and I've read the Twilight trilogy).
As has already been said, the writing is absolutely awful. The author is English, the book is based in America but the author uses loads of British turns of phrase that would never be used in America (e.g. "throwing toys out of pram" - American's don't use the word pram). It's unbelievably repetitive. I actually did a search in my Kindle for the word "flush/flushed" (as in "I flushed at the sight of his body" or some crap like that) and it's in there over 140 times. The protagonist "bites her lip" at least every 3 pages, she never stops consulting her "inner goddess" and by about a third of the way through the book I was fuming with anger every time she said "Oh my!" The storyline is basically non-existent. I was 90% of the way through the book and I was like "wait...what the hell has happened besides lots of sex?"
The characters are extremely unlikeable and unbelievable. Ana is supposedly just after completing an English major, yet her vocabulary is surprisingly limited. She is 22 and is portrayed as a "strong independent woman" yet she is pathetically naive and is more than happy to be in an abusive relationship. By abusive, I don't mean physically, I mean she is in a relationship with someone who is in complete control of her. Christian is a stalker and a control-freak, yet women the world over are frothing at the gash for him.
At the start, I thought the sex scenes were quite exciting, a bit of a turn on, but I quickly got bored of them. After the first one, there's one about every 5 pages or so. Ana comes as soon as Christian touches her most of the time :rolleyes: I'm a fan of BDSM myself, but it is portrayed very badly in the books IMO. The author makes it seem like a submissive has no choice in what happens in that world. The sex scenes lose their eroticism very quickly, when it is obvious the author is embarrassed to use words like "cock", "pussy" or any other adult terms for genitals. Instead, Ana refers to her vagina as "my sex" or "down there", and Christian's cock is called "his length".
I can't believe how much the phenomenon of this book bothers me. It's supposedly resulting in a whole new sexual awakening for women, however if women need this book to influence their sex lives then they're boring and unimaginative. My boyfriend's female colleagues were talking about it last week and saying how great it was. My boyfriend told them I hated it and thought it was a terrible book. One of them asked why, and he replied "Because she's not a fucking idiot". I think that about sums it up 0 -
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Crash Override wrote: »Wasn't the book out like a year ago?
Why is it only now that it has turned into this massive thing?
Was it on the Afternoon Show or something?
hehe. You said "massive thing"0 -
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ibarelycare wrote: »A FB friend posted that picture on her wall. I commented saying "What men would learn if that book was an instruction manual: It's ok to be extremely controlling, manipulative, jealous and to treat women like prey. Women orgasm within seconds of you touching them. Women are pathetic and need to be told how to behave."
I asked if it was a manual for empty headed girls who live in towns where it rains a lot. 0 -
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