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50 Shades of Grey Phenomenom?!
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Captain_Generic wrote: »Haven't read the book but this review told me everything I needed to know about it in hilarious fashion:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/340987215
That's brilliant, all my exact thoughts just funnier and more cleverly written
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Not sure if I could read Fifty Shades now without hearing Gilbert Gottfried's voice:
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ibarelycare wrote: »That's brilliant, all my exact thoughts just funnier and more cleverly written
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hatrickpatrick wrote: »Anyway back on topic, in terms of 50 shades of grey, my theory is that it's giving people who were always too hung up or embarrassed to think about their sexuality a proper outlet, for the first time.
Hey, if it leads to Irish society becoming less terrified of sex, why not!
That's fine, but I'm sure once this bubble has burst most of them will never buy an erotic book again... Now if there was a link to literotica at the back...hatrickpatrick wrote: »On the issue of BDSM being horrible, some people are into that stuff. Just because it seems unthinkable for you to be turned on by it, why should we judge others who are? Everyone has their kinks, most people here just seem to have had too much "Irish Catholic Values" shoved down their throats to open their minds to them without the aid of a book like this :P
*puts on his anti flame shield and waits for the haters to start hating*
Sometimes I feel my beliefs are more suited to Joe Duffy than After Hours
I'll admit I don't think there's anything wrong with BDSM until it starts affecting life outside the bedroom (low self esteem in other parts of life ie work) which is where some fanfiction and (apparently) this book takes it to. Makes BDSM an abusive relationship - which someone has already said in this thread (that the relationship in the book is abusive).
If I'm completly off about the plot of the book, forgive me. I'm just going on other people's posts.Deleted User wrote: »so women read this book notting is said
if a man read buys playboy/nuts mags there perves
and this is coming from a gay guy
Mags and porn website are explotitive - mostly re women, I've no idea about the men on the sites. The book is all paper and ink, no naked pics of anyone, no one exploited for someone else's gratification. I would think that is the main difference (to me). No one has ever said that is a man masturbates he's a perv - or at least no one has said it to me, and every book I read as a teen re growing bodies etc, said it was a perfectly natural thing to do, so it's not that element of it either.
Selling ice cream is exploitative, do you have a problem with that?0 -
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ibarelycare wrote: »She is 22 and is portrayed as a "strong independent woman" yet she is pathetically naive and is more than happy to be in an abusive relationship. By abusive, I don't mean physically, I mean she is in a relationship with someone who is in complete control of her. Christian is a stalker and a control-freak, yet women the world over are frothing at the gash for him.
At the start, I thought the sex scenes were quite exciting, a bit of a turn on, but I quickly got bored of them. After the first one, there's one about every 5 pages or so. Ana comes as soon as Christian touches her most of the time :rolleyes: I'm a fan of BDSM myself, but it is portrayed very badly in the books IMO. The author makes it seem like a submissive has no choice in what happens in that world.Some people are into full time d/s i think, wouldn't be my cup of tea but not wrong
but that's not what this is, from what i've heard, it's just plain abusive however much he tries to pretend it's d/s
Exactly why people should write about what they know and this woman knows nothing about BDSM.Clit Lit is nothing new, Black Lace books has been running for 20 years and been on sale in Easons for the last 15. Idiots are buying the book, idiots who can't use google to find good smutty stories.
This is what flabberghasts me about this "phenomenon", you'd think it was the first erotic novel written for women. Do women really not know what's out there for them?
I genuinely don't understand why this particular book has gotten so much attention ... was it on Oprah's book club or something? 31 million copies?! WTF?!ibarelycare wrote: »The sex scenes lose their eroticism very quickly, when it is obvious the author is embarrassed to use words like "cock", "pussy" or any other adult terms for genitals. Instead, Ana refers to her vagina as "my sex" or "down there", and Christian's cock is called "his length".
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ibarelycare wrote: »Decided to download this book about 6 weeks ago to see what all the hype was about. So many times I was tempted to stop reading it but I always ended up picking it back up again and finished it.
It was pure and utter shite, far and away the worst book I've ever read (and I've read the Twilight trilogy).
As has already been said, the writing is absolutely awful. The author is English, the book is based in America but the author uses loads of British turns of phrase that would never be used in America (e.g. "throwing toys out of pram" - American's don't use the word pram). It's unbelievably repetitive. I actually did a search in my Kindle for the word "flush/flushed" (as in "I flushed at the sight of his body" or some crap like that) and it's in there over 140 times. The protagonist "bites her lip" at least every 3 pages, she never stops consulting her "inner goddess" and by about a third of the way through the book I was fuming with anger every time she said "Oh my!" The storyline is basically non-existent. I was 90% of the way through the book and I was like "wait...what the hell has happened besides lots of sex?"
The characters are extremely unlikeable and unbelievable. Ana is supposedly just after completing an English major, yet her vocabulary is surprisingly limited. She is 22 and is portrayed as a "strong independent woman" yet she is pathetically naive and is more than happy to be in an abusive relationship. By abusive, I don't mean physically, I mean she is in a relationship with someone who is in complete control of her. Christian is a stalker and a control-freak, yet women the world over are frothing at the gash for him.
At the start, I thought the sex scenes were quite exciting, a bit of a turn on, but I quickly got bored of them. After the first one, there's one about every 5 pages or so. Ana comes as soon as Christian touches her most of the time :rolleyes: I'm a fan of BDSM myself, but it is portrayed very badly in the books IMO. The author makes it seem like a submissive has no choice in what happens in that world. The sex scenes lose their eroticism very quickly, when it is obvious the author is embarrassed to use words like "cock", "pussy" or any other adult terms for genitals. Instead, Ana refers to her vagina as "my sex" or "down there", and Christian's cock is called "his length".
I can't believe how much the phenomenon of this book bothers me. It's supposedly resulting in a whole new sexual awakening for women, however if women need this book to influence their sex lives then they're boring and unimaginative. My boyfriend's female colleagues were talking about it last week and saying how great it was. My boyfriend told them I hated it and thought it was a terrible book. One of them asked why, and he replied "Because she's not a fucking idiot". I think that about sums it up
I logged in just to thank this post! Eveything ibarelycare said, everything!0 -
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daisybelle2008 wrote: »The language is childish and banal… 'OMG.He is so freaking hot!!!' 'Crap', 'Double Crap', 'Triple Crap'
She is always bawling, biting her lip and BLUSHING, BLUSHING, FLUSHING SCARLET.
Katrina Lumsden did a word count:"Oh My" - 79
"Crap" - 101
"Jeez" - 82
"Holy (shít/fúck/crap/hell/cow/moses)" - 172
"Whoa" - 13
"Gasp" - 34
"Gasps" - 11
"Sharp Intake of Breath" - 4
"Murmur" - 68
"Murmurs" - 139
"Whisper" - 96
"Whispers" - 103
"Mutter" - 28
"Mutters" - 23
"Fifty" - 16
"Lip" - 71
"Inner goddess" - 58
"Subconscious" - 82
I can't believe she said "holy moses" even once! :pac:0 -
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LittleBook wrote: » Katrina Lumsden did a word count:
I can't believe she said "holy moses" even once! :pac:
I believe there is even a 'holy mackerel' in there as well although I can't be sure.
The review is hilarious and completely accurate.0 -
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hatrickpatrick wrote: »I'm here to comment on the book's popularity but I have to step in here for a second - many people like myself who adamantly believe that the law shouldn't differentiate between men and women, and should hold human beings equal in matters of law, would argue that the word "feminism" has been poisoned by the modern third wave element which is about "equality, but only in areas where equality would benefit me".
I'm an "equalitist". I believe in equality for both genders, including areas in which it means I as a man will lose unfair privileges I have. When you hear the word "feminism" you don't exactly think of someone who would like to see father's rights improved AS WELL as improving areas in which women are disadvantaged, do you? :rolleyes:
The word "feminism" has the name of one gender embedded into it. Since I argue strongly against double standards affecting BOTH genders, I don't feel it's appropriate to align myself with one or the other. That does NOT mean I don't believe in equality.
Anyway back on topic, in terms of 50 shades of grey, my theory is that it's giving people who were always too hung up or embarrassed to think about their sexuality a proper outlet, for the first time.
Hey, if it leads to Irish society becoming less terrified of sex, why not!
On the issue of BDSM being horrible, some people are into that stuff. Just because it seems unthinkable for you to be turned on by it, why should we judge others who are? Everyone has their kinks, most people here just seem to have had too much "Irish Catholic Values" shoved down their throats to open their minds to them without the aid of a book like this :P
*puts on his anti flame shield and waits for the haters to start hating*
Sometimes I feel my beliefs are more suited to Joe Duffy than After Hours
Pfff, this thread isn't about feminism....its about some fella knockin 50 shades of sh1te ourra some dim bint and her lovin every minute of it....good girl!!0 -
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ibarelycare wrote: »
It was pure and utter shite, far and away the worst book I've ever read (and I've read the Twilight trilogy).
Are you a paid critic?
Because otherwise I cant figure out why you kept reading part 2 and 3 of a trilogy when you did not even like the first book I thought the film 300 was probably one of the worst pieces of garbage ever made. They are planning a prequel- I have no intention of watching it in order to double confirm that it is at least as bad as the first film.
Is there any serialisation of this book, or say the worst chapter of it, available to look at anywhere?0 -
Father Damo wrote: »ibarelycare wrote: »
It was pure and utter shite, far and away the worst book I've ever read (and I've read the Twilight trilogy).
Are you a paid critic?
Because otherwise I cant figure out why you kept reading part 2 and 3 of a trilogy when you did not even like the first book I thought the film 300 was probably one of the worst pieces of garbage ever made. They are planning a prequel- I have no intention of watching it in order to double confirm that it is at least as bad as the first film.
Is there any serialisation of this book, or say the worst chapter of it, available to look at anywhere?
I didn't read parts 2 and 3 of the Grey trilogy. Do you mean the Twilight books? (Actually come to think of it, there are 4 books in that series), well I got them all as a present so in a way I felt obliged to read them but to be honest I really did want to find out how the story was going to go. I was scorning them the whole way through but I wanted to persevere 50 Shades, on the other hand, has the thinnest weakest storyline imaginable and I had zero interest in seeing what happened next. 0 -
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