10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

noodler

noodler wrote: »

Vague...

This:

old hippy wrote: »

Very true. In the wake of the killing of Jean Charles de Menzies (Stockwell, 05) you had people lining up in front of the cameras saying all sorts of blatant untruths. Some people in a panic claim they see all sorts of things and some people like the spotlight for their 15 seconds of fame.

One witness said he had wires and the like hanging out of his belt, multiple witnesses said he was wearing a very bulky jacket when he wasn't etc. Between, as old hippy says, a moment in the spotlight and the stress of such an event witnesses can be very unreliable.

karma_

Stinicker wrote: »

He lost his freedom as soon as he decided to rob others of their freedom to live and enjoy their lives. Now the US will punish him and end his life accordingly. Over in this country he would serve a maximum of twenty years and be declared punished and get his freedom back having killed so many people.

America guarantees freedom, but freedom isn't free, no one has the right to go killing people, Guns are for sport and self defense. In Ireland had this happened and some other person had a handgun and shot the murderer in the middle of the killing spree he would be arrested and charged with murder. In this country not only is it practically impossible to get a gun but try to defend yourself or others and you'll find yourself on the wrong side of the law. Commit assault, financial treason or murder someone and you'll get a slap on the wrist at the worst case, rob a loaf of bread to feed your family or break the speed limit and you can expect serious consequences.

There is no justice in Ireland and the policing system here is corrupt to the core. In America this lunatic will get the Death Penalty.

You're just spouting extreme horseshít to be fair, freedom isn't free? Give me a feckin break.

@ABC

suspect's mother tells @ABC News "You have the right person... I need to call the police... I need to fly out to Colorado.”

https://twitter.com/gma/status/226294616452898816

meoklmrk91

3 month old, treated and released from hospital, good news!

TheGimp

TheGimp wrote: »

WTF?

they got him

FutureGuy

Kinda holding back tears now reading the twitter account posted above. Just an excited girl off to the movies with friends. If this happened in Dublin instead of Denver, I wonder would we have so many cool dudes making jokes about it on here.

ghogie91

OMARS_COMING_ wrote: »

No but the killing was LOL :rolleyes:

Youngest victim was 3 months old

I am sad i breathe the same air as people like you

R P McMurphy

Stinicker wrote: »

He lost his freedom as soon as he decided to rob others of their freedom to live and enjoy their lives. Now the US will punish him and end his life accordingly. Over in this country he would serve a maximum of twenty years and be declared punished and get his freedom back having killed so many people.

America guarantees freedom, but freedom isn't free, no one has the right to go killing people, Guns are for sport and self defense. In Ireland had this happened and some other person had a handgun and shot the murderer in the middle of the killing spree he would be arrested and charged with murder. In this country not only is it practically impossible to get a gun but try to defend yourself or others and you'll find yourself on the wrong side of the law. Commit assault, financial treason or murder someone and you'll get a slap on the wrist at the worst case, rob a loaf of bread to feed your family or break the speed limit and you can expect serious consequences.

There is no justice in Ireland and the policing system here is corrupt to the core. In America this lunatic will get the Death Penalty.

That post is absolute rubbish. How exactly is the policing system in Ireland corrupt to the core? And to hold up the US as an example of effective policing, where the number of wrongful deaths and injuries caused by law enforcement is pretty astounding

old hippy

Stinicker wrote: »

He lost his freedom as soon as he decided to rob others of their freedom to live and enjoy their lives. Now the US will punish him and end his life accordingly. Over in this country he would serve a maximum of twenty years and be declared punished and get his freedom back having killed so many people.

America guarantees freedom, but freedom isn't free, no one has the right to go killing people, Guns are for sport and self defense. In Ireland had this happened and some other person had a handgun and shot the murderer in the middle of the killing spree he would be arrested and charged with murder. In this country not only is it practically impossible to get a gun but try to defend yourself or others and you'll find yourself on the wrong side of the law. Commit assault, financial treason or murder someone and you'll get a slap on the wrist at the worst case, rob a loaf of bread to feed your family or break the speed limit and you can expect serious consequences.

There is no justice in Ireland and the policing system here is corrupt to the core. In America this lunatic will get the Death Penalty.

Executing mentally ill people is your idea of justice? Is that "freedom" being amended to suit?

A little tweak here, a little tweak there and soon we'll have freedom 0.2?

It's hard to believe that people can make jokes about this, especially after finding out a baby had been shot. A f*cking baby. Where on Earth is the humour in that, I ask you?

And it has nothing to do with me lightening up, it has to do with people having common sense and common f*cking decency, which is sorely lacking from the world lately.

stevenmu

ghogie91 wrote: »

Youngest victim was 3 months old

FWIW reports now seem to be that the 3 month old is ok, and has possibly been released from hospital.

old hippy

ghogie91 wrote: »

Youngest victim was 3 months old

I am sad i breathe the same air as people like you

You don't. It's an established fact that trolls breathe in and out pure, unrefined bullshyt.

nbar12

genuinely have no idea how people can make jokes about this incident. this story makes me feel sick and so angry, the thought of this sick b@stard killing innocent people is horrendous but killing innocent children is heartbreaking. I really hope this he gets the death penalty

Not trying to be funny but what kind of parent brings a3 month old child to see a film such as this. Its close to 3 hours long and is sure as hell going to be very, very loud and no child would sleep through it.

karma_

Deleted User wrote: »

It's hard to believe that people can make jokes about this, especially after finding out a baby had been shot. A f*cking baby. Where on Earth is the humour in that, I ask you?

And it has nothing to do with me lightening up, it has to do with people having common sense and common f*cking decency, which is sorely lacking from the world lately.

I agree with this one hundred percent, in stark contrast to the Gerry Ryan thread where stupid posts were outlawed.

Stinicker

old hippy wrote: »

Executing mentally ill people is your idea of justice? Is that "freedom" being amended to suit?

A little tweak here, a little tweak there and soon we'll have freedom 0.2?

I'm not going to argue with you and turn this thread into a debate on the Death Penalty. Lots of people are dead lets just leave it at that, when the dust has settled on the scene will be plenty time to discuss that.

old hippy

nbar12 wrote: »

genuinely have no idea how people can make jokes about this incident. this story makes me feel sick and so angry, the thought of this sick b@stard killing innocent people is horrendous but killing innocent children is heartbreaking. I really hope this he gets the death penalty

Why is it more heartbreaking? Are not the adults innocent and undeserving also? Will a state sponsored murder bring about balance and an end to suffering? Or will it just make some people feel good about themselves?

If the perp is sick, mentally ill - is it the right thing to do, take away his life?

fishy fishy

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

3 month old, treated and released from hospital, good news!

I would imagine the rumors about the baby being shot at point blank range are untrue then - I saw a lot of "he said/she said" stories about this baby and no full confirmation from anybody about the baby being shot at point blank range.

It would seem that the severity of the baby's injuries where exaggerated as I don't think a three month old baby shot at point black range would be release from hospital so soon - thankfully the baby is fine now.

I would assume there are plenty of overstated stories and exaggerations on this topic at the moment but remember until something is verified and confirmed by a reliable source, that is all they are at the minute.

nbar12

Deleted User wrote: »

Not trying to be funny but what kind of parent brings a3 month old child to see a film such as this. Its close to 3 hours long and is sure as hell going to be very, very loud and no child would sleep through it.

was thinking the exact same

old hippy

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm not going to argue with you and turn this thread into a debate on the Death Penalty. Lots of people are dead lets just leave it at that, when the dust has settled on the scene will be plenty time to discuss that.

Instead we should have a discussion on the gun laws or liberalism, would that be more to your liking?

As was your opening salvo concerned with. This freedom you mention, does it extend to discussions on the internet?

Duggy747

One of the girls shot dead was an up and coming sportscaster. She was also at the Toronto mall shootings a few weeks ago which she posted a blog about.

“I say all the time that every moment we have to live our life is a blessing. So often I have found myself taking it for granted. Every hug from a family member.

"Every laugh we share with friends. Even the times of solitude are all blessings. Every second of every day is a gift. After Saturday evening, I know I truly understand how blessed I am for each second I am given.”

Einhard

I've been looking forward to this film for weeks. I watched Batman Begins on Wednesday, The Dark Knight last night, and have tickets to to see The Dark Knight Rises tonight with friends. People all over the world have been giddy with excitement and anticipation for this film, and looking forward to a great night out. And then something like this happens, and shocks you to the core. It's incomprehensible. It's odd, but somehow I can get my head around the masssacre in Norway last year, or the school shootings. They're sickening too, and the perpetratirs beyond conempt, but for some reason the idea of strolling into a darkened cinema and shooting the people gathered there with family and friends, munching popcorn and holding hands, seems more chilling. It's really shaken me.

As regards the humorous comments, well I can't be too quick to judge. I saw this story on my phone this morning, and was stunned. For a reason that i can't quite fathom, I linked it on Facebook with a humorous comment. Of course, it didn't in any way denigrate the act or the suffering of the victims and their families, but it was still flippant. I don't know why I posted that particular comment. I deleted it immediately because I realised it was crass in the extreme, but I can understand why some people might seek humour in such a tragedy, and I know that this generally doesn't reflect their personalities.

One thing I can't understand though, is how people can condemn such an act as sickening and the work of a monster, and then declare that the perpetrator should be tortured, have acid poured down his throat, or some such other horrific death. That's just as sickening and monstrous. It's the deed that's horrific, not the reasoning behind it.

Anyway, I'm feeling quite sad now. I'll still go to the film tonight, and I'll enjoy it, but it'll be tinged with a certain sadness. RIP to all the victims.

Bad Panda

Deleted User wrote: »

Not trying to be funny but what kind of parent brings a3 month old child to see a film such as this. Its close to 3 hours long and is sure as hell going to be very, very loud and no child would sleep through it.

This again!

For Christ sake, it's not a crime to bring a baby to the cinema. There could be any number of reasons for it. People should be allowed do what they want in this regard and not have to fear getting shot.

Focus on the real issues here.

Diabhal Beag

Is the 9gag stuff legit?

ScumLord

Deleted User wrote: »

Not trying to be funny but what kind of parent brings a3 month old child to see a film such as this. Its close to 3 hours long and is sure as hell going to be very, very loud and no child would sleep through it.

It's already been discussed but it makes no difference to the child. It would only be an annoyance to the other people in the cinema if it cried.

meoklmrk91

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Is the 9gag stuff legit?

I don't know, was just wondering the same myself

flyswatter

I think the whole bringing the child to the cinema issue is hindsight.

No one would care about it being brought if this hadn't happened.

What 9Gag stuff?

seamus

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Is the 9gag stuff legit?

What 9gag stuff?

seamus

seamus wrote: »

What 9gag stuff?

Weird.

Get out of my head!

chin_grin

FutureGuy wrote: »

Kinda holding back tears now reading the twitter account posted above. Just an excited girl off to the movies with friends. If this happened in Dublin instead of Denver, I wonder would we have so many cool dudes making jokes about it on here.

I agree.

The only thing I can think that comes close is when I was reading the last messages from the Titanic when I went up to the exhibition. Harrowing.

RIP to the victims and I hope the families and friends are ok.

Also I apologise, and I can do so again profusely for my original comments then subsequent defence of my comments...I just think I was taken completely out of context! The "jokes" in this thread shouldn't have been made [by other posters] and I didn't mean to defend them either!) It was my understanding that it wasn't to the victims expense as it was to the state of the US...so, sorry again.

Suryavarman

Deleted User wrote: »

What 9Gag stuff?

seamus wrote: »

What 9gag stuff?

According to the comments on the Youtube video posted earlier somebody spoiled the film. Then another person said that they were going to shoot up their local cinema to spoil it for everybody and then that person was jeered on by other 9gag users.

Diabhal Beag

http://www.canoncurrent.com/14-dead-50-wounded-at-aurora-late-night-premier-of-dark-knight-rising/

seamus wrote: »

What 9gag stuff?

Bad Panda

Bad Panda wrote: »

This again!

For Christ sake, it's not a crime to bring a baby to the cinema. There could be any number of reasons for it. People should be allowed do what they want in this regard and not have to fear getting shot.

Focus on the real issues here.

Its not a crime but its also not the place for a 3 month old child to be brought. A child that young is most likely going to spend much of the time crying, the films thus far have been very loud and no child will sleep through it. Should every have to endure a crying child? Ive been at two screenings of films where a young child was present and it cried. I ended up having to get a cinema employee kick the parents and child out as why should my night be ruined by the inconsideration of others. If parents really want to see s film, there are plenty of parent and child screenings to choose from.

splashthecash

Suryavarman wrote: »

According to the comments on the Youtube video posted earlier somebody spoiled the film. Then another person said that they were going to shoot up their local cinema to spoil it for everybody and then that person was jeered on by other 9gag users.

****in' hell - suspect has been named and is mid-20's....what possible reasoning is he going to spout for doing this?

old hippy

Suryavarman wrote: »

According to the comments on the Youtube video posted earlier somebody spoiled the film. Then another person said that they were going to shoot up their local cinema to spoil it for everybody and then that person was jeered on by other 9gag users.

So now we can focus the blame on Youtube, Batman and bad parenting.... :rolleyes:

meoklmrk91

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

http://www.canoncurrent.com/14-dead-50-wounded-at-aurora-late-night-premier-of-dark-knight-rising/

Screenshot here of the supposed 9gag post.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107311986082116&set=o.503179546375508&type=1&theater

splashthecash

Deleted User wrote: »

Its not a crime but its also not the place for a 3 month old child to be brought. A child that young is most likely going to spend much of the time crying, the films thus far have been very loud and no child will sleep through it. Should every have to endure a crying child? Ive been at two screenings of films where a young child was present and it cried. I ended up having to get a cinema employee kick the parents and child out as why should my night be ruined by the inconsideration of others. If parents really want to see s film, there are plenty of parent and child screenings to choose from.

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE ****ING BABY! IT IS ALIVE AND WELL, HOME SAFE THANK GOD. I brought it up myself a few pages ago but left it at that...

gobnaitolunacy

Deleted User wrote: »

Its not a crime but its also not the place for a 3 month old child to be brought. A child that young is most likely going to spend much of the time crying, the films thus far have been very loud and no child will sleep through it. Should every have to endure a crying child? Ive been at two screenings of films where a young child was present and it cried. I ended up having to get a cinema employee kick the parents and child out as why should my night be ruined by the inconsideration of others. If parents really want to see s film, there are plenty of parent and child screenings to choose from.

No-one cares what happened at your screening. There is a bigger issue here.

If that's true, then it reminds me of the death of Brandon Vedas, basically someone who overdosed on a webcam feed as he was goaded on by people to keep taking more and more.

crazygeryy

What the **** was a 3 month old baby doing at a 1230 am showing of batman.crazy ass americans.

podgemonster

I promised myself to stay away from media and social networking today but this events could not be ignored.

Truely tragic, a day in which the world was to enjoy the release of (hopefully) a great movie now darkened. But that pales in contrast to the taking of 12 innocent lives young and old. The 50 injured and other patrons will most likely be severly traumatized for a long time after such a horrific incident.

The gunman is to blame here, not firearm laws, movies or video games. Gas mask, smoke grenades, muliple weapons, location and timing of the attack indicate it was a cold callous and calculated act by the 24 year old, i hope he gets life in a 6x6 solitary cell.

splashthecash

podgemonster wrote: »

I promised myself to stay away from media and social networking today but this events could not be ignored.

Truely tragic, a day in which the world was to enjoy the release of (hopefully) a great movie now darkened. But that pales in contrast to the taking of 12 innocent lives young and old. The 50 injured and other patrons will most likely be severly traumatized for a long time after such a horrific incident.

The gunman is to blame here, not firearm laws, movies or video games. Gas mask, smoke grenades, muliple weapons, location and timing of the attack indicate it was a cold callous and calculated act by the 24 year old, i hope he gets life in a 6x6 solitary cell.

^
Here, here - well said

kingtiger

podgemonster wrote: »

i hope he gets life in a 6x6 solitary cell.

nah not solitary, just pop Bubba in there from time to time with no lube

Dunny

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Screenshot here of the supposed 9gag post.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=107311986082116&set=o.503179546375508&type=1&theater

Site should be taken down for letting this go.

Nodin

splashthecash wrote: »

****in' hell - suspect has been named and is mid-20's....what possible reasoning is he going to spout for doing this?

Previous have included God, Jesus, Allah, "voices", the devil, demons, pre-emptive strike.....media will possibly blame the movie.

old hippy

kingtiger wrote: »

nah not solitary, just pop Bubba in there from time to time with no lube

Advocating rape now. And people talk of sick minds...

jayteecork

Any pic of the perp yet?

old hippy

crazygeryy wrote: »

What the **** was a 3 month old baby doing at a 1230 am showing of batman.crazy ass americans.

I don't care much for people bringing their kids or infants to the pub but it doesn't make them crazy. Or American.

Nodin

Dunny! wrote: »

Site should be taken down for letting this go.

Yes, clearly they should have checked that a joke was actually a declaration of intent in their crystal ball.

(presuming that isn't just a photoshop)