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The Music of Charles Manson

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    #62
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Namlub wrote: »
    OP you seriously need to re-evaluate your life.


    And these songs are pretentious **** btw, ''night is dark, wind is cold''?

    Do you know what a metaphor is ?

    Go and look it up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggE3jrIbj4&feature=related




    Charlie in death row 13, the same cell his mother cleaned out after an execution, and told him about as a child.

    Man of destiny.


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    #63
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_0j3byq4w

    Look at your Game Girl


    There's a time for living
    Time keeps on flying
    Think you're loving baby
    But all your doing is crying

    [chorus]
    Can you feel
    Are those feelings real
    Look at your game, girl
    Look at your game, girl

    What a mad delusion
    Living in that confusion
    Frustration and doubt
    Can you ever live without the game

    The sad, sad game
    Mad game
    Just to say loves' not enough
    ?? it can't be true
    Oh, you can tell those lies
    Baby but you're only fooling you

    [chorus]

    You feel
    I those feelings ain't real
    Then you better stop trying
    Or you're gonna play crying
    Stop trying

    That's the game
    Sad sad game
    Mad game
    Sad game


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    #64
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_FsBThebkw&feature=related




    MY WORLD

    My world is a sad world
    Often wonder if there's blame
    Such a fool in a mad mad world
    With no picture in my frame

    Everyone says crazy fool
    You're always gazing at the night
    With my arms around the tree
    Loving life with all my might

    Crazy as I may seem
    Not knowing what to do
    Living with one crazy dream
    In a frantic world of blue

    Lie awake every evening
    And somehow stumble through the night
    Such a fool in a mad world
    Loving life with all my might

    My world is a sad world
    Often wondered if there's blame
    Such a fool in a mad mad world
    With no picture in my frame

    Loving you without a name!
    With no love and no one to blame!


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    #65
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Great song, awesome lyrics

    Bet you think I care

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0sVB5Y4wA



    Standing in a crowd
    All by myself
    Got nobody
    Thinking about me


    Bet you think I Care!
    I'll bet you think that I care.

    Now she's gone
    Gone far away
    And every day
    Is just another day

    Bet you think I Care

    I'll bet you think I don't wanna be alone
    And you think I cry!
    And if she ever found out
    I bet you think that I would die

    Yes I'd die

    She'll never know whats down inside
    All this love that I'll always hide

    Always hide

    But I just hide it along
    [- From :http://www.elyrics.net/read/c/charles-manson-lyrics/bet-you-think-i-care-lyrics.html -]
    I didnt hide it along
    And this all into this song
    Cause I didn't hide along
    And there's no beginning it's always been
    And always shall be in your mind
    All the time that's no crime!

    Loves on time
    Love within, no sin
    Love within, no sin
    Put it in, no sin
    Take it out, and shout
    No more war, oh ho
    Turn em on, turn em on
    Put em on, time is now
    Time is now
    Come on
    Come on
    It's up to you
    Come on you
    It's up to you
    What do you do?
    Who cares?
    I don't.


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    #66
    viadah
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭viadah


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    The Swastika is an ancient cross cultural spiritual symbol found in nearly every culture, you see it as you want to see it, you see it as negative.

    Manson has it because of his interest in Spirituality and because he was sentenced to the gas chamber, hes showing up the hypocrisy , so he x'ed himself out of their society.


    All you are doing is projecting your ignorance and hatred onto someone you have learned about through the media lol

    What does that say about you ?

    The swastika is an ancient symbol yes. The Nazis rotated it to represent their altered purity. Why did Charlie rotate it? For that matter, since you're laughing at our ignorance, can you point us in the direction of some independent research from a reputable source that is trying to re-open the case against Manson to prove his innocence? How is the case going? If he was wrongfully convicted surely someone is doing something that would enlighten us from our ignorance. That's what being open minded is all about, if you can prove it to me I'll row in behind you 100%. If you can prove to me my view on Manson is wrong. Reposting his lyrics like a Bieber-obssessed fangirl isn't going to do it.

    However, you'll never convince me his music is any use. Because it's not. Not even all his 'contacts' back in his Family days were interested in it. The interest post trial in his music therefore speaks for itself.


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    #67
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    The Swastika is an ancient cross cultural spiritual symbol found in nearly every culture, you see it as you want to see it, you see it as negative.

    So if i walked up to you with a swastika tattooed onto my face you'd think "oh what a spiritual guy" bollocks you would, you'd turn around and run because it's common knowledge the swastika is negative and anybody sporting one is a bigoted, prejudiced fúcking wanker that should be kept well away from.


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    #68
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    P4DDY2K11 wrote: »
    So if i walked up to you with a swastika tattooed onto my face you'd think "oh what a spiritual guy" bollocks you would, you'd turn around and run because it's common knowledge the swastika is negative and anybody sporting one is a bigoted, prejudiced fúcking wanker that should be kept well away from.

    I suggest you get out more.

    The swastika is found all over the world, its a Hindu symbol, Manson studied Yoga.

    As I said it has different contexts and meanings.


    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hindu+swastika&start=126&um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=709&addh=36&tbm=isch&tbnid=xd3YKAhnxEXQ1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/499229/&docid=3nm5f9v26oZXdM&imgurl=http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php%253Fsrc%253Dhttp://san-shin.net/images/SGS-Bogwangsa-03.JPG%2526size%253D400x1000&w=350&h=318&ei=3OMKUObeMaO50QWepaHRCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=321&vpy=118&dur=196&hovh=168&hovw=185&tx=130&ty=136&sig=113036497111966128717&page=7&tbnh=163&tbnw=179&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:126,i:161


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    #69
    viadah
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭viadah


    Dude seriously, answer a question, prove the ignorance we're all living in. You could even become a little Charlie yourself. Or at the very least you could be a reflection of the man. C'mon, answer some of my questions, help me to come to now. What would Charlie do?


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    #70
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    viadah wrote: »
    The swastika is an ancient symbol yes. The Nazis rotated it to represent their altered purity. Why did Charlie rotate it? For that matter, since you're laughing at our ignorance, can you point us in the direction of some independent research from a reputable source that is trying to re-open the case against Manson to prove his innocence? How is the case going? If he was wrongfully convicted surely someone is doing something that would enlighten us from our ignorance. That's what being open minded is all about, if you can prove it to me I'll row in behind you 100%. If you can prove to me my view on Manson is wrong. Reposting his lyrics like a Bieber-obssessed fangirl isn't going to do it.

    However, you'll never convince me his music is any use. Because it's not. Not even all his 'contacts' back in his Family days were interested in it. The interest post trial in his music therefore speaks for itself.


    I have previous posted a video and posts on how he was denied his constitutional rights, you choose to ignore that, and come back like a little yapping dog.

    Your mind does not want to be objective, you need to buy into the hysteria, you need a bogeyman to feel scared of.


    Manson did not want to pollute his music with commercialism.

    Hes beyond the world of money.

    Thats why he gave up the Rolls Royce and went to the desert.


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    #71
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    So why did Manson not use the Hindu symbol? Instead of the rotated Nazi symbol?

    Hindu

    150px-HinduSwastika.svg.png

    Nazi

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    Nazi

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    #72
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Its the same way around, thanks for proving my point.

    He also used it to identify with the German children who after the war were persecuted for the crimes of their Fathers, as he said he was.


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    #73
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    Am I really reading a thread in which someone is trying to defend Charles Manson?
    I didn't even feel the need to read the lyrics to his stuff .

    Manson thought songs like 'Piggies ' from the Beatles White album were directed as a personal message for him and 'Piggies ' was carved in blood on Sharon Tates body ...the guy is class A psychopath .


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    #74
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Latchy wrote: »
    I didn't even feel the need to read the lyrics to his stuff .

    Manson thought songs like 'Piggies ' from the Beatles White album were directed as a personal message for him and 'Piggies ' was carved in blood on Sharon Tates body ...the guy is class A psychopath .



    No he never, more lies, stated as facts.

    The hysteria and false info around this guy is incredible.

    He states he never even liked the Beatles, lol.

    Even his music has no influence of the Beatles, for someone who its claimed was such a huge fan.


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    #75
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    I suggest you get out more.

    The swastika is found all over the world, its a Hindu symbol, Manson studied Yoga.

    As I said it has different contexts and meanings.


    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hindu+swastika&start=126&um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=709&addh=36&tbm=isch&tbnid=xd3YKAhnxEXQ1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/499229/&docid=3nm5f9v26oZXdM&imgurl=http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php%253Fsrc%253Dhttp://san-shin.net/images/SGS-Bogwangsa-03.JPG%2526size%253D400x1000&w=350&h=318&ei=3OMKUObeMaO50QWepaHRCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=321&vpy=118&dur=196&hovh=168&hovw=185&tx=130&ty=136&sig=113036497111966128717&page=7&tbnh=163&tbnw=179&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:126,i:161

    oh i get out plenty, but i doubt going out more will reveal the true meaning of the swastika, because thankfully where i live i dont run into people that are willing to preach about swastikas.


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    #76
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Its the same way around, thanks for proving my point.

    He also used it to identify with the German children who after the war were persecuted for the crimes of their Fathers, as he said he was.
    Ah, I see your fanboy obsession also makes you blind. Tell me, do you also masturbate while listening to Manson's music?


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    #77
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Ah, I see your fanboy obsession also makes you blind. Tell me, do you also masturbate while listening to Manson's music?


    All you are doing is projecting your deepest fears.

    Its a bit like a guy who keeps going on about how he hates gays, but deep down is really like that himself.

    You are very troubled, I wish you peace.


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    #78
    viadah
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭viadah


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    I have previous posted a video and posts on how he was denied his constitutional rights, you choose to ignore that, and come back like a little yapping dog.

    Your mind does not want to be objective, you need to buy into the hysteria, you need a bogeyman to feel scared of.


    Manson did not want to pollute his music with commercialism.

    Hes beyond the world of money.

    Thats why he gave up the Rolls Royce and went to the desert.

    My mind does want to be objective, that's why I'm asking you. You seem to be an authority on how wronged he is, I want you to help us all evolve. If we're all wrong, you surely are the one to ask, no one else here is defending him. I wouldn't want to rely on another media outlet like YouTube to open my mind, the media are the ones who closed it right?

    'Even his music has no influence of the Beatles, for someone who its claimed was such a huge fan.' - Well maybe if it did it woukd be better. Saying he's beyond the world of money is ****ing obvious, besides commissary he doesn't need it. They still give free stamps, don't they?


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    #79
    Latchy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    No he never, more lies, stated as facts.

    The hysteria and false info around this guy is incredible.

    He states he never even liked the Beatles, lol.

    Even his music has no influence of the Beatles, for someone who its claimed was such a huge fan.
    Manson's life and crimes have resulted in many many books been written about him and the gang and it's well know he wasn't a Beatles fan but in his own warped way he saw that White album as having hidden meanings in some of the songs but hey ... so did thousands of other American youths at the time but they didn't use it to add to their ' reasons for slaughtering ' cv


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    #80
    thelegendary
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    All the songs are good.I love all the songs of charles Manson...


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    #81
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I need an IP check in isle 5, IP check in isle 5 please.


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    #82
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Latchy wrote: »
    Manson's life and crimes have resulted in many many books been written about him and the gang and it's well know he wasn't a Beatles fan but in his own warped way he saw that White album as having hidden meanings in some of the songs but hey ... so did thousands of other American youths at the time but they didn't use it to add to their ' reasons for slaughtering ' cv

    According to him thats not true.

    Why would he be obsessed with a Beatles album if he was not a fan ? Why not a band he liked ?

    It was invented by the prosecution, when you study their case you realise its all built on speculation and not facts.

    Obviously authors want to sell books, they expand on the myths.


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    #83
    viadah
    Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭viadah


    Man, seriously, if I were going to trump up a charge on anyone like I said I'd plant a gun or something. What you're saying is the prosecution were looking for something to get him jailed on and what, they came up with Helter Skelter? How ****ing high do you think Bugliosi was through the whole trial?

    And kudos for bolstering your integrity by not answering direct questions and continuing to troll instead.


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    #84
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    viadah wrote: »
    Man, seriously, if I were going to trump up a charge on anyone like I said I'd plant a gun or something. What you're saying is the prosecution were looking for something to get him jailed on and what, they came up with Helter Skelter? How ****ing high do you think Bugliosi was through the whole trial?

    And kudos for bolstering your integrity by not answering direct questions and continuing to troll instead.


    Prosecutions invent scenarios all the time idiot.


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    #85
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Prosecutions invent scenarios all the time idiot.

    Dude, personal abuse is uncalled for, all you are doing is projecting your deepest fears.

    Its a bit like a guy who keeps going on about how he hates gays, but deep down is really like that himself.

    You are very troubled, I wish you peace.


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    #86
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Dude, personal abuse is uncalled for, all you are doing is projecting your deepest fears.

    Its a bit like a guy who keeps going on about how he hates gays, but deep down is really like that himself.

    You are very troubled, I wish you peace.



    You keep making idiotic posts, but you dont like to be called an idiot ?

    how does that work out ?


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    #87
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    You keep making idiotic posts, but you dont like to be called an idiot ?

    how does that work out ?
    No ones called me an idiot. You should probably make notes on who you're talking to so you don't get confused.


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    #88
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users Posts: 7,342 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    This is amazing, truly fúcking amazing. Not sure if I've ever come across a person like you Cruasader.


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    #89
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    No ones called me an idiot. You should probably make notes on who you're talking to so you don't get confused.

    I was being kind to your friend.

    But you are welcome to.


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    #90
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    P4DDY2K11 wrote: »
    This is amazing, truly fúcking amazing. Not sure if I've ever come across a person like you Cruasader.



    Enjoy


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9QXY80OxS0


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    #91
    Time
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    At the end of the day he was present at (and probably ordered) the murder of one of his own "family" and was also present at the La Bianca murder. So he's guilty under the felony murder rule

    So you can say he was railroaded all you want, that docent reduce his culpability under US law which says that any participant in the commission of a felony that results in the death of someone is guilty of murder.


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