whats your safeguard while driving?

hondasam

Gary ITR wrote: »

Buddy of mine gave me some sound advice when I started driving, he said 'never **** when you're driving'.... Joking aside that's true and to be fair I've stuck to it

Is it ok if the passenger does it for you?

Gary ITR

hondasam wrote: »

Is it ok if the passenger does it for you?

Oh it's actually a requirement for female passengers

Pottler

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Do tyres really make a difference at normal speeds? I only notice a difference below legal limits (and change them ASAP at the legal limit for that reason)

Yes, yes they do. Crap tyres nearly buried me into a pile-up on the Naas road once when instead of stopping the car decided to continue on as it was despite the ABS pumping for Ireland. That was the last set of crap tyres I ever had on a car, a long time ago now. I bought a car last week, new chinese rubber on it, swapped them right off for a set of Firestones and as expected, car now stops, goes and handles 100% better. Tyres FTW. Oh yeah, and Sam, only if they have soft hands, otherwise its too distracting.

ceegee

My mad drivin skillz

and me massive spoiler


(paying attention to weather and road conditions and avoiding Donegal also help)

senordingdong

I stay between the ****ing lines and continue to drive god smacked at the people who can't.

dahamsta

Gary ITR wrote: »

Buddy of mine gave me some sound advice when I started driving, he said 'never **** when you're driving'.... Joking aside that's true and to be fair I've stuck to it

If it were true, you wouldn't be stuck to anything....

Heroditas

On the M50, always drive in the middle lane - this ensures you have adequate clearance on either side of the vehicle.

SeanW

Pay careful attention to what's happening in front of you. Look out for hazards and potential hazards (e.g. an animal, cyclist, stationary obstruction or some idiot who could be about to do something stupid) and respond appropriately, making sure you've left enough space and time to allow you to do so.

On one roundabout alone I've avoided a lot of accidents (all of which would legally have been my fault) by assuming that a motorist coming towards me in the opposite direction is taking the 3rd exit, while completely ignoring their indicators.

Always select a safe speed that is a balance between allowing you to respond in good time to a hazard, but fast enough that you're keeping up with traffic and able to watch the road instead of your speedometer, and are not lose time unduly. That may involve travelling below the speed limt, on those occasions when it is optimistic or generalised, travelling at the speed limit in the majority of cases where it is a good guide to safe driving, or above it if it doesn't make sense (30kph or 50kph on a Type 1 DC for example).

RED PASSION

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Do tyres really make a difference at normal speeds? I only notice a difference below legal limits (and change them ASAP at the legal limit for that reason)

Tyres are crucial to keep in good nick, at 75 mph on a dual carriageway or motorway they are the only thing transferring the power of the car to the road and when stopping is concerned especially in the wet tyres can save lives.

Where To

Gartan clay

http://www.abumedia.com/factual/gartan-clay

fasttalkerchat

Pottler wrote: »

Yes, yes they do. Crap tyres nearly buried me into a pile-up on the Naas road once when instead of stopping the car decided to continue on as it was despite the ABS pumping for Ireland. That was the last set of crap tyres I ever had on a car, a long time ago now. I bought a car last week, new chinese rubber on it, swapped them right off for a set of Firestones and as expected, car now stops, goes and handles 100% better. Tyres FTW. Oh yeah, and Sam, only if they have soft hands, otherwise its too distracting.

Do you rekon you could feel a difference between 0.8 and 0.6mm of thread for example?

dr.fuzzenstein

Gary ITR wrote: »

Buddy of mine gave me some sound advice when I started driving, he said 'never **** when you're driving'.... Joking aside that's true and to be fair I've stuck to it

Come again?:p

Thatnastyboy

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Come again?:p

He probably did :pac:

RED PASSION

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Come again?:p

spelt wrong

RED PASSION

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Do you rekon you could feel a difference between 0.8 and 0.6mm of thread for example?

i defo could not, maybe 1mm and 0.5mm in wet conditions

Chuck_Norris

RED PASSION wrote: »

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Do you rekon you could feel a difference between 0.8 and 0.6mm of thread for example?

i defo could not, maybe 1mm and 0.5mm in wet conditions

Sorry for being pedantic here boys, but is it not a bit late at either of those stages?

fasttalkerchat

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Sorry for being pedantic here boys, but is it not a bit late at either of those stages?

I never bought used tyres so don't know. I get a decent set of used tyres and drive until below legal limit or an MOT is coming up (NCT)

Chuck_Norris

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I never bought used tyres so don't know. I get a decent set of used tyres and drive until below legal limit or an MOT is coming up (NCT)

Not being obnoxious here, or wanting to appear rude (apologies if I offend with this), but I'd you're willing to drive a car with tyres below the legal limit of thread depth, it goes a long way towards explaining your question as to whether tyres make much of a difference.

I've just over 4.5mm left on mine, and can tell the difference in the wet especially.

TrailerBob

Always felt safer in the jeep as its so big. (2 tons of big) until one day I was parked in front of a Nissan 200sx... I looked and realised that in a head on collision with the Nissan, the first part of the cruiser to hit it ( or any low fronted car) would be the tyres.. the thought has made me think a little more since then.

Gran Hermano

I assiduously follow the advice of the RSA and worship Gay Byrne for his knowledge of all things motor related.

As a man I realize if I drive with a female passenger she will die.

Pottler

TrailerBob wrote: »

Always felt safer in the jeep as its so big. (2 tons of big) until one day I was parked in front of a Nissan 200sx... I looked and realised that in a head on collision with the Nissan, the first part of the cruiser to hit it ( or any low fronted car) would be the tyres.. the thought has made me think a little more since then.

I've a well off mate who bought his daughter a new Trooper to ensure she would be safe driving. She had a drunk in a Peugeot run head on into her on her way to work - he walked away unharmed, she was absolutely destroyed - often the extra mass/momentum of the heavier 4*4 will work against you. Another two mates were killed when their Landcruiser hit a car, car driver walked away. Another two I know died in a landcruiser when a bus hit them. Another guy I know well lost his arm when his jeep rolled and arm went through window. Don't assume you are invulnerable just because you drive a 4*4, often the opposite is the case.:)

RED PASSION

legal thread depth is 1.6mm
not sure what mm a brand new tyre is. i think once they go below 3mm maybe you should be thinking about replacing them but still legal.

fasttalkerchat

RED PASSION wrote: »

legal thread depth is 1.6mm
not sure what mm a brand new tyre is. i think once they go below 3mm maybe you should be thinking about replacing them but still legal.

Sorry I had the 0.4 figure in my head for some reason! That question should have read... can you feel a difference between 1.8 and 2.0 in that case.

Pottler

RED PASSION wrote: »

legal thread depth is 1.6mm
not sure what mm a brand new tyre is. i think once they go below 3mm maybe you should be thinking about replacing them but still legal.

Thread depth is one thing, but if you've got 4 Gung-ho Ditchfinders fitted, all the thread in the world is not enough. De rubbah is not pukkah.

TrailerBob

Pottler wrote: »

I've a well off mate who bought his daughter a new Trooper to ensure she would be safe driving. She had a drunk in a Peugeot run head on into her on her way to work - he walked away unharmed, she was absolutely destroyed - often the extra mass/momentum of the heavier 4*4 will work against you. Another two mates were killed when their Landcruiser hit a car, car driver walked away. Another two I know died in a landcruiser when a bus hit them. Another guy I know well lost his arm when his jeep rolled and arm went through window. Don't assume you are invulnerable just because you drive a 4*4, often the opposite is the case.:)

That's my point, I don't.... It struck me that in the hypothetical collision, the cruiser would likely be launched over a ditch meaning no more TrailerBob.. Maybe that didn't come across. Big isn't always best for sure.

Sorry to hear of so many jeep related horror stories close to you.

Have seen plenty of opposite scenario too, such as a completely destroyed focus that hit a 100 series cruiser, but so many factors at play.

puzzle factory

a fake name while im driving that hammer home.

Pottler

TrailerBob wrote: »

That's my point, I don't.... It struck me that in the hypothetical collision, the cruiser would likely be launched over a ditch meaning no more TrailerBob.. Maybe that didn't come across. Big isn't always best for sure.

Sorry to hear of so many jeep related horror stories close to you.

Have seen plenty of opposite scenario too, such as a completely destroyed focus that hit a 100 series cruiser, but so many factors at play.

I drive both, a jeep and a car. Always felt safer in the jeep, but I doubt if the facts back it up. I had a 99 Landcuiser though, rounded a bend going pretty hard, to be greeted by a low loader reversing across the road 60m in front of me, and the fecking cruiser stopped! With meters to spare. I also though, had a new Cinquecento(I bought it for the missus(gf then), and a stolen golf with the gards in hot pursuit lost it on a bend,struck a tree - coming head on at me, and literally took off, sailing over the roof of my car, clearing it by inches. I had my two kids in the car with me and it's about the closest I've come. I doubt that whatever I was driving would have made a difference if that Golf had come in through the windscreen instead of clearing the roof and it took me about an hour to steady the auld knees. I never thought I'd be looking up at the wheels of a car passing over the top of my own. So, lucks important too! If I'd been in the jeep, the higher roofline would have meant the Golf would have taken my head off and probably killed us all. Best of all, the scummers in the golf got out and ran off! Not a mark. Golf was utterly destroyed..

sdanseo

Observation. I know what's going on around my car. And of course, a seat belt. In general, a sensible, pro-active, practical style of driving to suit the conditions.

TrailerBob

Pottler wrote: »

I drive both, a jeep and a car. Always felt safer in the jeep, but I doubt if the facts back it up.

Spot on there, didn't 5th gear test it with an espace and a discovery, and the Renault scored better. Still I'd prefer to be in the landcruiser than a cinquecento in any situation... There'd only be one winner methinks

101sean

Depends what I'm driving, the 101 with it's drum brakes and huge knobbly tyres makes you drive predictively (especially in the wet) leaving plenty of room. Anything else modern you tend to get complacent about how well it stops or handle. Definitely happier driving something bigger though.

Luck still plays a huge part, had a near miss recently going round a bend to be confronted by an Evo on the wrong side of the road doing a runner from a garda car, definite brown trouser moment!

Recall seeing a poster in a bus back in the 60s when I was a kid - "Don't drink and drive!", turned to my mother and said out loud " but Daddy doesn't drink and drive, he stops at a pub!"