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Stolen iPhone

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  • 21-07-2012 12:53am
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    Registered Users Posts: 9,472 ✭✭✭


    Had my phone taken from me today on the bus, left it on the seat and went back about 15 seconds later and it was gone. Anyhow, if anyone on here is offered, or asked to fix, an iPhone 4 that has a severe crack on the back panel and slight crack on the top right of the front panel, please let me know.

    Was able to track the phone to a location by Ursuline secondary school, went down there and realised that it's in the complex down there. Called the Gardai and they said to claim off insurance. I don't have insurance. It's blocked anyway now but just in case you see a phone around, please let me know.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    Might be an idea to go Into any of the phone repair shops in town and say it too lad. Seriously shiitty thing to happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭ex_infantry man


    ziedth wrote: »
    Might be an idea to go Into any of the phone repair shops in town and say it too lad. Seriously shiitty thing to happen.
    them boys in that place would'nt give two fcuks they'll still unlock it for cash


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Why cant you go in and get it? Surely your political connections might be able to remind the Gardai of their job?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    I have to say I love the Gardaí's attitude. You've reported a crime and given them the exact location of the stolen property and they do nothing about it.

    Has anyone on this board ever had a positive experience of the Gardaí? Because I've certainly never read, or heard of, one.

    Have you pushed the point with them? Made a complaint?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭south


    Maybe its in an apartment complex and the location is not precise? I take it they'd need a warrant before they could enter someones property ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭lassykk


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    I have to say I love the Gardaí's attitude. You've reported a crime and given them the exact location of the stolen property and they do nothing about it.

    Has anyone on this board ever had a positive experience of the Gardaí? Because I've certainly never read, or heard of, one.

    Have you pushed the point with them? Made a complaint?

    Sorry to hear about your phone Adam

    Tell them you are going down with a shot gun to sort it out seen as they won't and see if that shifts them.

    Absolutely ridiculous when you could tell them where it is and they do nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    go to icloud.com and login with the apple id attached with your phone (this the same as the one you use when you download an app)

    and then you can locate the phone if its on and not been wiped. That way you can report the location to the garda.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,190 ✭✭✭kensutz


    He did that already ^^
    Was able to track the phone to a location by Ursuline secondary school, went down there and realised that it's in the complex down there. Called the Gardai and they said to claim off insurance. I don't have insurance. It's blocked anyway now but just in case you see a phone around, please let me know.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,495 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    lassykk wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Its an phone, what exactly do you expect the Gardai to do?
    Create a search team and search the entire area, stopping all people and search them?

    The op tracked it down to a large complex not down to just one flat/house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,191 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Shirley the iphone has moved off the school by now. You could tipp off the teachers and send an alarm sound to the phone at an exact time so it'll go off in class.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭south


    Shirley the iphone has moved off the school by now. You could tipp off the teachers and send an alarm sound to the phone at an exact time so it'll go off in class.

    schools are on summer holidays


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Bet it was the nuns. Never trusted 'em!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    Prob a overseas student that's there for the summer in the Ursuline to learn English or one of the residents in the old boarding buildings has it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    OP best thing to do is to keep tracking it until it moves off the premises and see where it goes and perhaps follow it with a few mates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    AdMMM wrote: »
    Had my phone taken from me today on the bus, left it on the seat and went back about 15 seconds later and it was gone. Anyhow, if anyone on here is offered, or asked to fix, an iPhone 4 that has a severe crack on the back panel and slight crack on the top right of the front panel, please let me know.

    Was able to track the phone to a location by Ursuline secondary school, went down there and realised that it's in the complex down there. Called the Gardai and they said to claim off insurance. I don't have insurance. It's blocked anyway now but just in case you see a phone around, please let me know.
    Shirley the iphone has moved off the school by now. You could tipp off the teachers and send an alarm sound to the phone at an exact time so it'll go off in class.
    anplaya wrote: »
    Prob a overseas student that's there for the summer in the Ursuline to learn English or one of the residents in the old boarding buildings has it.

    That complex has nothing to do with the ursuline secondary school ,Its been run as refugee centre at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    That complex has nothing to do with the ursuline secondary school ,Its been run as refugee centre at the moment.


    yeah but theyre all in on same grounds,its either a student or a 'resident' who picked the mobile up id say.depends which complex hes talking about,the school or the refugee centre.could be in the gym complex for all we know or the nuns complex as well lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    anplaya wrote: »
    yeah but theyre all in on same grounds,its either a student or a 'resident' who picked the mobile up id say.depends which complex hes talking about,the school or the refugee centre.could be in the gym complex for all we know or the nuns complex as well lol.


    Mother Superior the Godfather of the Waterford black market.....:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Doylers


    If I were you id get a second iphone head down there and use the second phone to play sounds on the stolen phone and walk around till you hear you iphone. Or just hang around and see if it moves while your there


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Its an phone, what exactly do you expect the Gardai to do?
    Create a search team and search the entire area, stopping all people and search them?

    The op tracked it down to a large complex not down to just one flat/house.

    There is no need for that, if some is trying to air their frustration, you should not return with Sarcasm.

    There is a clear lack of interest in the law in Ireland, my sister-in-law had her laptop stolen in belfast. She got the IP of her skype account that the criminal used to log and the PSNI raided the house within 12 hours.

    Regardless of the object stolen every crime is a crime, the police service is there to serve not us to serve them.

    So Sarcasm is not a adequate response especial from a moderator, who should be promoting a fair, balanced and equal debate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,600 ✭✭✭lassykk


    Cabaal wrote: »
    lassykk wrote: »
    Absolutely ridiculous when you could tell them where it is and they do nothing.

    Its an phone, what exactly do you expect the Gardai to do?
    Create a search team and search the entire area, stopping all people and search them?

    The op tracked it down to a large complex not down to just one flat/house.

    So if someone stole something worth €500 off you, you'd be happy for the police to just ignore it even though you told them where it was located.

    You have obviously never had anything stolen off you or you must be so rich that you wouldn't notice if that's your attitude!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    In fairness, de babylons in Waterford are pretty dire.

    My car was broken in to once. My rucksack was stolen. Within it was my passport, wallet, mobile phone.. I had a pretty good idea of who did it, as two young scallies were dossing about the area 20 minutes earlier.

    Anyway I called the old bill. PC Plod came and took a report. Then we (copper and I) noticed some commotion coming from (roughly) a fifth floor apartment window that was overlooking where my car was parked and where we were standing. Hanging out of the window was the tow rag who half-inched my bag - he was holding it and waving - the audacity.

    So of course I told Officer Useful that's my bag - that's the knob who nicked it - go and arrest him and retrive my bag. You know what he said to me? That's private property, I can't be going in there without a warrant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    I have to say I love the Gardaí's attitude. You've reported a crime and given them the exact location of the stolen property and they do nothing about it.

    Has anyone on this board ever had a positive experience of the Gardaí? Because I've certainly never read, or heard of, one.

    Have you pushed the point with them? Made a complaint?

    lol
    and we give out about the gardai wasting time

    what do you expect the gardai to do exactly?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    It wasn't exactly stolen. He misplaced it. Someone found it, took it. He tracked it down but wont go in and ask for it back.

    The Guards probably see this happen every day. Its a lot of work - they cant enter the property without a warrant and to get a warrant they need to go to the courts. Then they need to find the individual with the phone, prove that its not his and so on. Its a lot of work, and I suspect they just think that their time was better spent elsewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Nothing to do with time better spent somewhere else. That iPhone tracking is not accurate, it gives an approximate location which is not enough for the Gardai to stop and search every single person they come across. Would you mind being searched randomly in public ecause someone in the area might have a stolen phone? No, you wouldn't. As most other people wouldn't.

    As for the other example where the suspect was waving out the window, the Garda would have had to get a statement, then attempt to get a warrant before going into the building, and by which time said scrote is well gone/the property is.

    Only thing you can do is pass the info onto the cash converter shops and hope it goes to them instead of out of the country...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd


    There was a story on the Ray D'Arcy Show a while back about a girl who had just landed in Spain, stopped in her rental car to run into a cafe for a quick bite and when she came back out her bag including iPad had been taken from the car. I'm sketchy on all the details, but long story short she used the tracker in the iPad to locate the stuff in a hostel just on the edge of town. Went to the nearest barracks, a cop or two accompanied her back to the hostel, she activated the alarm on the iPad and they were able to pinpoint the exact room. Then they hid just down the hall and waited for the little scumbag to come back and when he entered the room they busted him for handling/possessing stolen property and they found ****loads of other peoples stuff that had been robbed too. Just goes to show. The fact that the Guards here don't see tracking stolen property as a possible lead to solving other thefts etc is a little disheartening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    thats the thing, there could be loads of a stolen stuff where this chaps fone is been kept,
    tho what can the cops do its a lost and found, not a robbed and found...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Jason Todd wrote: »
    There was a story on the Ray D'Arcy Show a while back about a girl who had just landed in Spain, stopped in her rental car to run into a cafe for a quick bite and when she came back out her bag including iPad had been taken from the car. I'm sketchy on all the details, but long story short she used the tracker in the iPad to locate the stuff in a hostel just on the edge of town. Went to the nearest barracks, a cop or two accompanied her back to the hostel, she activated the alarm on the iPad and they were able to pinpoint the exact room. Then they hid just down the hall and waited for the little scumbag to come back and when he entered the room they busted him for handling/possessing stolen property and they found ****loads of other peoples stuff that had been robbed too. Just goes to show. The fact that the Guards here don't see tracking stolen property as a possible lead to solving other thefts etc is a little disheartening.

    She was lucky. In my experience, the Spanish police don't care about anybody but their locals and have little or no regard for tourists.

    Plus, they struck lucky. There is nothing to suggest that the Guards would uncover something big. Possible, yes. Now maybe if Adam has an alarm, they would be more interested because they can just go to the exact location without much hassle. But even then, im not sure how they can obtain the item under the law.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,495 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Kracken wrote: »
    Regardless of the object stolen every crime is a crime, the police service is there to serve not us to serve them.

    A crime is a crime, however some crimes deserve more resources then others, I think you'll agree with this? Or do you think misplaced and picked up iphones should be equal to say drug dealing in relation to resources used dealing with the crime?

    The Gardai "raiding" a complex over the OP leaving their iPhone on a bus that somebody took doesn't appear to be good use of limited Gardai resources to me. Sorry if you thought my post was unhelpful but I'm just stating the reality of what the Gardai are likely not going to put resources into.

    If it was me and my iphone, would I expected a raid or door to door search?. No of course not.

    As for the pointless comments about if I had stuff stolen from me in the past, yes I have. But of course you assumed I did not.

    .
    o Sarcasm is not a adequate response especial from a moderator, who should be promoting a fair, balanced and equal debate.

    As I'm sure Sully or another mod here will be happy to confirm, my mod status on another forum has nothing to do with this forum. So I'm unsure why you are even mentioning it in this thread.

    You are on boards.ie long enough to know the situation about mods posting on forums they don't mod,


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭Kracken


    Cabaal wrote: »
    A crime is a crime, however some crimes deserve more resources then others, I think you'll agree with this? Or do you think misplaced and picked up iphones should be equal to say drug dealing in relation to resources used dealing with the crime?

    The Gardai "raiding" a complex over the OP leaving their iPhone on a bus that somebody took doesn't appear to be good use of limited Gardai resources to me. Sorry if you thought my post was unhelpful but I'm just stating the reality of what the Gardai are likely not going to put resources into.

    If it was me and my iphone, would I expected a raid or door to door search?. No of course not.

    As for the pointless comments about if I had stuff stolen from me in the past, yes I have. But of course you assumed I did not.

    .

    As I'm sure Sully or another mod here will be happy to confirm, my mod status on another forum has nothing to do with this forum. So I'm unsure why you are even mentioning it in this thread.

    You are on boards.ie long enough to know the situation about mods posting on forums they don't mod,

    Point 1:
    So you think that sarcasm is an adequate response to a crime? I assume by your defence that you do think is ok, which I am very disappointed with.
    Someone was the victim of a crime and that is how you treat them, and the point was, you as a moderator you should respect someone's situation and not belittle them, you should have encourage fair, just and equally moderate debate. Not make sarcastic comments about someones misfortune...

    "As I'm sure Sully or another mod here will be happy to confirm, my mod status on another forum has nothing to do with this forum. So I'm unsure why you are even mentioning it in this thread."


    It has everything to do with this forum, you as a moderator represent the morals, ideals and persona of boards.ie, therefore regardless of what forum you post in, if you a moderate you should have a bit of common sense about how it looks for a moderator to public belittle someone in a threat where someone was the vicitim of crime.
    Would it be acceptable for an irish official to travel to another country and belittle someone there? The answer is no, as they always respresent their home country.
    Therefore, as a moderator, I believe it is unacceptable for you belittle someone with sarcasm.


    Point 2:
    As to the point about the garda. Let take the structure of your argument and apply it similar hypothetical situation.
    If a child has suffers a GBH assault by a group of thugs, but at the same time there is a murder; Your argument says that the severity crime overrides the rights the individual, so therefore the thugs get away with it, and the victim of the crime is left without justice.

    Regardless, of funding or resources, every person in this country is entittled to equal rights, so therefore, I think you owe Lassykk an apology.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    While I certainly don't agree with Cabaal in relation to the topic, he is correct about his kod status from other forums having no bearing here. Mods, once outside of the forums they moderate, are to be treated as ordinary posters.


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