So who polluted Clare's beautiful beaches?

bob charles

Just a bit of a follow on to a thread during the last week. A boiled egg to whoever guesses first as to who polluted Lahinch, Kilkee and Spainish Point beaches. FFS it hard enough for the restaurant/hotel industry within out having to put up with this crap. Time for the EPA to take the polluters to task.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0720/pollution-fears-at-three-co-clare-beaches.html

whelan1

it wasnt me.... even if my neighbours wife reports me:p seriously though thats not good for tourism

reilig

bob charles wrote: »

Just a bit of a follow on to a thread during the last week. A boiled egg to whoever guesses first as to who polluted Lahinch, Kilkee and Spainish Point beaches. FFS it hard enough for the restaurant/hotel industry within out having to put up with this crap. Time for the EPA to take the polluters to task.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0720/pollution-fears-at-three-co-clare-beaches.html

The authorities don't like taking on the authorities.

pakalasa

Yep, the State itself is the biggest polluter.

Manoffeeling

pakalasa wrote: »

Yep, the State itself is the biggest polluter.

Bord na mona are the worst in a dry year.

reilig

Manoffeeling wrote: »

Bord na mona are the worst in a dry year.

I think its more to do with local authority sewerage schemes whose treatment systems release "treated" sewerage into our rivers and seas.

During heavy rainfall (Like last week) these treatment systems can flood and untreated sewerage can flow direct to the river or sea as happened in Clare this week.

Bad planning, poor design, poor construction are some of the causes.
Some would argue that the treatment systems in place don't treat the sewerare to a high enough standard to be able to release it into the water.

In recent years many villages along the upper shannon have had sewerage systems put in place. Its no coincidence that water schemes that draw water off the shannon have seen their quality decrease over the last few years with frequent boil notices in place and high instances on ecoli.

There is a lot to be said for the septic tank!!

Manoffeeling

reilig wrote: »

I think its more to do with local authority sewerage schemes whose treatment systems release "treated" sewerage into our rivers and seas.

During heavy rainfall (Like last week) these treatment systems can flood and untreated sewerage can flow direct to the river or sea as happened in Clare this week.

Bad planning, poor design, poor construction are some of the causes.
Some would argue that the treatment systems in place don't treat the sewerare to a high enough standard to be able to release it into the water.

In recent years many villages along the upper shannon have had sewerage systems put in place. Its no coincidence that water schemes that draw water off the shannon have seen their quality decrease over the last few years with frequent boil notices in place and high instances on ecoli.

There is a lot to be said for the septic tank!!

I have seen it over the years when after a considerable dry period, heavy rain washes fine silt into the rivers coming off the bogs. The silt then gets into the gills and the fish suffocate. Not many septic tanks near us and the water is still poorish. Councils arnt simple either.

theMountain

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0721/swimming-ban-on-three-clare-beaches-lifted.html

bob charles

theMountain wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0721/swimming-ban-on-three-clare-beaches-lifted.html

what I find strange about the lifting of the ban on swimming is only yesterday I heard the DOS (Director of Services of Environment) for Clare Co Co state that they had tested the water again on friday and results would be back on Sunday and until then the ban would be in place. So today is only Saturday. I wonder what are the levels of E-coli in the water at present in the bays, and how come the ban was able to be lifted before sample results were returned. :mad:

redzerologhlen

bob charles wrote: »

Just a bit of a follow on to a thread during the last week. A boiled egg to whoever guesses first as to who polluted Lahinch, Kilkee and Spainish Point beaches. FFS it hard enough for the restaurant/hotel industry within out having to put up with this crap. Time for the EPA to take the polluters to task.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0720/pollution-fears-at-three-co-clare-beaches.html

I put my hands up, I was fishing on lahinch beach the other night and took a piss while I was there, my bad.

freedominacup

bob charles wrote: »

what I find strange about the lifting of the ban on swimming is only yesterday I heard the DOS (Director of Services of Environment) for Clare Co Co state that they had tested the water again on friday and results would be back on Sunday and until then the ban would be in place. So today is only Saturday. I wonder what are the levels of E-coli in the water at present in the bays, and how come the ban was able to be lifted before sample results were returned. :mad:

Think of the scene in Jaws 1 where the local Chamber of Commerce guys gang up on the sherrif over his closure of the beaches. "This place needs the summer" etc. Hard to blame those guys, the rain stops and someone decides to close the beaches desipte the fact that they are under legal limits.

Atilathehun

freedominacup wrote: »

bob charles wrote: »

what I find strange about the lifting of the ban on swimming is only yesterday I heard the DOS (Director of Services of Environment) for Clare Co Co state that they had tested the water again on friday and results would be back on Sunday and until then the ban would be in place. So today is only Saturday. I wonder what are the levels of E-coli in the water at present in the bays, and how come the ban was able to be lifted before sample results were returned. :mad:

Think of the scene in Jaws 1 where the local Chamber of Commerce guys gang up on the sherrif over his closure of the beaches. "This place needs the summer" etc. Hard to blame those guys, the rain stops and someone decides to close the beaches desipte the fact that they are under legal limits.

Lahinch and Killkee are forty miles apart with Spanish Point in between.
Could imagine one or maybe even two of them getting some effect from ag run off. Surely the chances of all three all on the same day are minimal!!!!
I suspect there was some fkukc up in the testing process especially since the closure order was rescinded within one day and again on all three locations.

I smell a fairly large sized rodent here !!!

pakalasa

Atilathehun wrote: »

Lahinch and Killkee are forty miles apart with Spanish Point in between.
Could imagine one or maybe even two of them getting some effect from ag run off. Surely the chances of all three all on the same day are minimal!!!!
I suspect there was some fkukc up in the testing process especially since the closure order was rescinded within one day and again on all three locations.

I smell a fairly large sized rodent here !!!

I was thinking the same. Lahinch is a bit of a bay alright, and a big one at that, but Kilkee & Spanish Point. Spanish point is practically out in the ocean, and a very rough ocean at that. Something strange alright.

blue5000

Big hotel right on the beach in Spannish point? Not much room for a sewage treatment plant between it and the beach.......

just do it

blue5000 wrote: »

Big hotel right on the beach in Spannish point? Not much room for a sewage treatment plant between it and the beach.......

2 hotels, large caravan park, tons of houses and a few old religious buildings belonging to the nuns. Point being the nuns are like the untouchables and how good a system they have in place heavens knows! Their poo might be blessed but it's not sterile;). Oh, and did I mention the river?! Funnily enough the hotels have relatively new treatment systems at a time when the CoCo has been clued into same. There are so many potential sources it's hard to know where it's coming from. It possibly a small bit from here and there, including upto a few miles away due to river, and just with the sheer volume the normal dilution effect isn't working. Not an expert so all just postulation on my behalf.

As an aside it really is annoying (language muted as this is a public forum!) that during the 10yr period of the tiger when huge contributions were been taken in the Council didn't put that money to where it is supposed to go i.e. provision of services such as proper sewage treatment:mad:.

Grecco

Did anyone notice the stream that flows into the sea about halfway along Spanish point beach. Its rank with sh1t and what not comming from the main sewer in Miltown Malbay plus all the one off houses, holiday homes etc all adding to it.
The sand around where the stream spreads out onto the beach has a rank smell as well. I`d recommend wearing a full chemical suit to anyone going there

lizgal

Grecco wrote: »

Did anyone notice the stream that flows into the sea about halfway along Spanish point beach. Its rank with sh1t and what not comming from the main sewer in Miltown Malbay plus all the one off houses, holiday homes etc all adding to it.
The sand around where the stream spreads out onto the beach has a rank smell as well. I`d recommend wearing a full chemical suit to anyone going there

ya it did stink

BeeDI

bob charles wrote: »

Just a bit of a follow on to a thread during the last week. A boiled egg to whoever guesses first as to who polluted Lahinch, Kilkee and Spainish Point beaches. FFS it hard enough for the restaurant/hotel industry within out having to put up with this crap. Time for the EPA to take the polluters to task.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0720/pollution-fears-at-three-co-clare-beaches.html

NAMA is the biggest polluter in Clare, and in most other counties as well:cool:

bob charles

BeeDI wrote: »

NAMA is the biggest polluter in Clare, and in most other counties as well:cool:

yes but, that by default, I actually would question that and I bet its either semi state company or else the governing authority are the biggest polluters