Upcoming Irish property tax to cost 'on average' €1000 per house.(can you afford it?)

Lord of the Bongs

donalg1 wrote: »

No I wouldn't as I haven't told on those I know haven't paid the hhc as this is none of my business what they do with their money.

your not as patriotic as I thought! Surely it is your business though as someone who has paid the charge and moans and calls other s names that have not, yet when its comes down to it you simply close your curtains. why is that?

Korvanica

Dafuq is wrong with the ~100 spastiks who intend on paying this?

alastair

Given that the revenue will now be taking over administration of the tax, I wonder will it have any bearing on tax clearance certs? I can't see how it could given the messy nature of jointly owned property payments.

alastair

Korvanica wrote: »

Dafuq is wrong with the ~100 spastiks who intend on paying this?

Lovely.

I'd ask what's the story with the 300 rash souls who are volunteering for penalty payments before they know what the tax, and penalties will amount to!?

donalg1

Lord of the Bongs wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

No I wouldn't as I haven't told on those I know haven't paid the hhc as this is none of my business what they do with their money.

your not as patriotic as I thought! Surely it is your business though as someone who has paid the charge and moans and calls other s names that have not, yet when its comes down to it you simply close your curtains. why is that?

What names do I call people. Is it not you that calls people idiots and sheep and lambs?

I told you its none of my business what others do with their money its up to them. I look after myself and my own and let others worry about theirs.

alastair

donalg1 wrote: »

What names do I call people. Is it not you that calls people idiots and sheep and lambs?

I told you its none of my business what others do with their money its up to them. I look after myself and my own and let others worry about theirs.

pssst! Ignore button.

tayto lover

donalg1 wrote: »

No I wouldn't as I haven't told on those I know haven't paid the hhc as this is none of my business what they do with their money.

My little analogy about the broken window was quite close then.

donalg1

tayto lover wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

No I wouldn't as I haven't told on those I know haven't paid the hhc as this is none of my business what they do with their money.

My little analogy about the broken window was quite close then.

What was that I must have missed that analogy.

alastair

donalg1 wrote: »

What was that I must have missed that analogy.

It's presumably something about not wanting to pay a tax, 'just because'.

donalg1

Dub XV wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

I wouldnt go as far as to say saintly now, but yes you seem to be getting the point of being a law abiding citizen.

Everybody has their tipping point.

You are comfortable at the minute so that's great.

Am i? Can you see me now? Do you know me?

Scanlas The 2nd

Lord of the Bongs wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

How would you solve our financial crisis if you ran the country? How would you close are fiscal deficit?

What you want me to answer that in a few paragraphs and spoil all the fun we are having as a country?

well i wont go into all of it but, Surprisingly, less taxation would be something I worth put forward. My 100 euros, if I had paid it for the HHC, would be better spend buying something in a shop somewere thus helping th e local busines economy . Im not actually sure what the HHC money is ringfenced for (some enlighten me)?? but i suspect its touted for road maintenance or filling in potholes.

Well if taxes are being reduced then serious cuts would have to be made? What would you cut?

Dub XV

donalg1 wrote: »

Am i? Can you see me now? Do you know me?

Course I do. Donal its me.

How are the family? Any diy plans for the gaff?

Dub XV

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Well if taxes are being reduced then serious cuts would have to be made? What would you cut?

The public sector wage bill.

alastair

Dub XV wrote: »

The public sector wage bill.

Which ones, and what savings would you make there?

Just keeping a tally.

Scanlas The 2nd

Dub XV wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Well if taxes are being reduced then serious cuts would have to be made? What would you cut?

The public sector wage bill.

The deficit this year was expected to be 18 billion or thereabouts, some serious cuts needed.

dvpower

Lord of the Bongs wrote: »

I will just tell them when they call that this is private property and we have a shoot to kill policy with any trespassers

Ah, don't do that. Your parents will send you to your room.:rolleyes:

Dub XV

alastair wrote: »

Which ones, and what savings would you make there?

Just keeping a tally.

Ha your serious aren't you?

If you read my post yesterday I all ready said it's not up to me to find the cuts.

But property tax isn't the only way to bridge the gap. Don't be dismissive of one issue but overly determined on another.

Dub XV

We should also tax cyclists and introduce a registration fee.

Dub XV

We should raise the plastic bag tax.

People who can afford a "bag for life" should be hit harder.

Dub XV

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The deficit this year was expected to be 18 billion or thereabouts, some serious cuts needed.

Never a truer word!

tayto lover

Dub XV wrote: »

We should also tax cyclists and introduce a registration fee.

Yes and budgies, cats, donkeys and even ladders. Anyone owning or using a ladder should be fair game. it makes as much sense as a home.

alastair

Dub XV wrote: »

Ha your serious aren't you?

If you read my post yesterday I all ready said it's not up to me to find the cuts.

But property tax isn't the only way to bridge the gap. Don't be dismissive of one issue but overly determined on another.

So - you're just throwing those out there as notional alternatives to a solid, ongoing, and attainable revenue stream, without any idea of what they'd actually save us? Fair enough.

alastair

tayto lover wrote: »

Yes and budgies, cats, donkeys and even ladders. Anyone owning or using a ladder should be fair game. it makes as much sense as a home.

Budgies and ladders can be moved offshore - most of them are there already! Your house? Not so much.

donalg1

Dub XV wrote: »

donalg1 wrote: »

Am i? Can you see me now? Do you know me?

Course I do. Donal its me.

How are the family? Any diy plans for the gaff?

Now ur getting weird stalkerish almost

Scanlas The 2nd

Dub XV wrote: »

alastair wrote: »

Which ones, and what savings would you make there?

Just keeping a tally.

Ha your serious aren't you?

If you read my post yesterday I all ready said it's not up to me to find the cuts.

But property tax isn't the only way to bridge the gap. Don't be dismissive of one issue but overly determined on another.

Obviously it's not up to you to find the cuts.

What would you cut if you were in charge ?

You have 18 billion to find. The government needs to make whatever decision it needs to make in the interest of the nation's and people's well being. Without foreign assistance there isn't enough money to pay guards, nurses, teachers etc, the country would fall apart, people die, it's no joke. Maybe the property tax isn't the best idea, maybe it is but unless you have a way to collect 18 billion without a property tax, moaning about the property tax and "bankers" comes across as a child crying because another child is playing with their toys they never even played with. It's petit childish behaviour.

Gra55hopper1

I am an American, and I can tell you that we already pay over a thousand USD for property taxes every year. Not trying to make light of your problems; just want you to know that we are all in this together.

tayto lover

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Obviously it's not up to you to find the cuts.

What would you cut if you were in charge ?

You have 18 billion to find. The government needs to make whatever decision it needs to make in the interest of the nation's and people's well being. Without foreign assistance there isn't enough money to pay guards, nurses, teachers etc, the country would fall apart, people die, it's no joke. Maybe the property tax isn't the best idea, maybe it is but unless you have a way to collect 18 billion without a property tax, moaning about the property tax and "bankers" comes across as a child crying because another child is playing with their toys they never even played with. It's petit childish behaviour.

That is a very silly post while we are paying our politicians more than the leaders of many top countries like the U.S.A., Britain and China. While we are paying NAMA employees an average of 103k per year and developers who work for NAMA 200k per year. While the travelling expenses alone for some of our pampered politicians are higher than the average industrial wage. While our politicians are availing of tax-breaks in the hope of making millions of it in the future and can't keep their repayments for borrowings up hence ending up being named in Stubbs Gazette. While they availed of questionable interest-free loans not available to any member of the public and from dubious bankers who might yet appear in court in the future.
Let them show the example and maybe then people would even consider following their lead. Trying to take the heat from them will not work with the average Joe Soap at all.

tayto lover

Gra55hopper1 wrote: »

I am an American, and I can tell you that we already pay over a thousand USD for property taxes every year. Not trying to make light of your problems; just want you to know that we are all in this together.

Ok Al.

Dub XV

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Obviously it's not up to you to find the cuts.

What would you cut if you were in charge ?

You have 18 billion to find. The government needs to make whatever decision it needs to make in the interest of the nation's and people's well being. Without foreign assistance there isn't enough money to pay guards, nurses, teachers etc, the country would fall apart, people die, it's no joke. Maybe the property tax isn't the best idea, maybe it is but unless you have a way to collect 18 billion without a property tax, moaning about the property tax and "bankers" comes across as a child crying because another child is playing with their toys they never even played with. It's petit childish behaviour.

I think you'll find that I haven't once mentioned the bankers or banking system. So relax there Merkel!

alastair

tayto lover wrote: »

That is a very silly post while we are paying our politicians more than the leaders of many top countries like the U.S.A., Britain and China. While we are paying NAMA employees an average of 103k per year and developers who work for NAMA 200k per year. While the travelling expenses alone for some of our pampered politicians are higher than the average industrial wage. While our politicians are availing of tax-breaks in the hope of making millions of it in the future and can't keep their repayments for borrowings up hence ending up being named in Stubbs Gazette. While they availed of questionable interest-free loans not available to any member of the public and from dubious bankers who might yet appear in court in the future.
Let them show the example and maybe then people would even consider following their lead. Trying to take the heat from them will not work with the average Joe Soap at all.

Reilly's business problems and the cost of sending delegations abroad are pretty much a sideshow - are the delegations value for money or not? Are tax breaks for running old folk's home a good or a bad thing? Is NAMA going to cost us more or less than the alternatives? The 'heat' you reckon exists has sod all to do with the overriding reality of the deficit - and how it's cleared.