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I have been lurking for a year or two now and noticed that yes, you do get the messing/blatant bashing at the start of a thread but as it goes on discussion does happen although usually about 5 or so pages in.
And i was thinking that, maybe the mods could implement an idea i had.
Basically if someone wanted a serious discussion they could put something like this [thread title(SD)]
if they wanted joking and messing [thread title(JAM)]
and then a combo of the 2 aka general [thread title(G)]
but with a cap of say the first 10/15 posts for messing after that users are thread banned for breaking that rule
i think this way could also help mods to find the more serious posts that break the charter where if it is in an serious discussion thread they have no excuse or leeway of saying (it's AH what do you expect) while if it was in a joking and messing thread it would be up to the mods to decide or if it was 10/15 of a general thread.
This would help with reported posts as the limits would be clear in a SD thread while in JAM threads it would be up to the mods to decide while in a G thread after the post limit depending on the post up to the mods to decides.
so that my 2 cents
If they want a serious discussion though then they should take the thread to the appropriate forum. I dont understand people who post in a non serious forum looking for a serious discussion. Yes serious discussion can happen but only along side the messing. Thats the beauty of the forum, everyone can get involved at any level.
Personally I think serious threads or people looking for serious discussion might be part of the problem. Someone starts a thread about something serious, some people crack a few jokes and next thing ya know its mayhem. Why is the thread in AH at all if AH style posting isnt acceptable in the thread ?
Thats not to say seriously insensitive and fcuked up posts should be allowed. But if there's going to be a line drawn in relation to whats acceptable to post there should be a line for what threads are acceptable for the forum. Otherwise your all but baiting posters with these threads as far as I can see.0 -
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Brutal Deluxe wrote: »Well yeah but it would depend on how's it phrased. I'm really short myself and I have no problem with any woman having a preference. But again, it depends on context and how they word it.
Nobody is saying to make it gender positive, at all. You can put down women or men you had experiences with. But to use an example of what is fine and what isn't:
Well there's a big difference between: I went on the pull and got meeting 5 women, all of them turned to be crazy bitches, ever have a night like that or meet any women like that? and saying "I went on the pull and this bitch turned me down, said I was too ugly, the lot of them are complete bitches far as I'm concerned".
One of them opens a discussion where both men and women can partake and offer support and advice and the other is just going to piss off an entire gender.
That's what I posted in a thread on AH as an example of what should and shouldn't be allowed. Or at least what I find is sexist and is okay to post.
But the other one will as you say end the thread for everyone, I assuming your answer was to the bold text I provided ?
I never had a problem with poking fun at what is different, gender, race, size, hair/eye colour or even what you are good at in school, your friends anything.
It's human nature to generalise about things when they first meet new things, we all do that to except what the change is within our lives.
Where it goes really badly wrong is when someone see these differences as a general turth (or as their Turth, because they meet someone like of a different gender, race, size, hair/eye colour or even what you are good at in school, your friends anything.
It is what humans do generalise to understand and learn, it's not alright that we generalisation as a fact or turth, because we meet one of them, or 3 or 10 of, it always the same we learn from are generalisation to except differences
Generalisation is a learning tool, not a fact finding tool. 0 -
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randylonghorn wrote: »Why not, though? Sure, but since when did letting your hair down have to include "bashing" as Scioch named it pretty accurately in my opinion. And NB please that it's that kind of stuff which comes from *some* posters that I'm talking about here, not the light-hearted banter. The latter may occasionally cross the line and annoy, but I wouldn't see it as anything like as big an issue as the "bash" brigade, and it's a lot easier to rein back in. Similarly, the eejits I mentioned earlier who have a race to the post to insert the first fatuous comment can be annoying, and I think they do need to be reined in a bit, but again there isn't any malice there and I wouldn't see them as a terribly serious or insoluble problem ... and you're quite right in pointing out that often other posters themselves will do the reining in in those cases.
It's the "bash" brigade who get rightly on my tits tbh, and I honestly don't see how they're a part of either civil discourse OR letting one's hair down.
AH was not traditionally a "non-serious" forum per se. Sure, there was lots of room for the non-serious, but there was room for the serious too, and I remember some epic serious discussions in AH in the day that probably wouldn't have fitted anywhere else. And that still happens sometimes to this day, if perhaps less often.
And that really was the purpose of AH as it developed ... a melting pot for stuff which had no other natural home, and yes, which had a slightly looser format as a result, and often, a more irreverent tone. There were always boundaries though, and all we're really discussing here is if the boundaries are in quite the right place at the moment, or whether they need tweaking. Tweaking, not complete re-drawing.
And that is it really being asked, because times change, lets tweak it to the changing times, one left ,one right (sorry I was tweeking an image on the computer today, it still ends up asse ways), but I understand were you are coming from 0 -
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