Ferguson Ariva 250

wextipp

Any body know anything about CEC. I notice on the Ariva 250 an option to turn it on or off, it's on by default. If I have it on and turn-off my TV it will turn off the Ariva as well, which is handy. Just wondering what else can be done with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC

Johnsee

Hi Everyone.

I have the Ferguson 250 combo box...firmware updated to V1.20B1 but for the life of me I cant delete/move channels and or add to favourites....Im probably doing something basic wrong but driving me nuts... When attempting to delete channels what Im doing is as follows:
1. I go to the the TV channels list, select it and a screen appears showing the list of channels with a preview in the right hand corner.
2. I then select the blue button-this is the one to delete channels (this then becomes active).
3. I then select the channel I want to delete by choosing ok, a little blue x appears beside this channel and any other channels you select and want to delete.
4. I select ok and then select back on the remote...you get a message then saying doing you want to save the new settings....I say yes....and then nothing changes......

Any ideas....?

Thanks
J

STB

Johnsee wrote: »

Hi Everyone.

I have the Ferguson 250 combo box...firmware updated to V1.20B1 but for the life of me I cant delete/move channels and or add to favourites....Im probably doing something basic wrong but driving me nuts... When attempting to delete channels what Im doing is as follows:
1. I go to the the TV channels list, select it and a screen appears showing the list of channels with a preview in the right hand corner.
2. I then select the blue button-this is the one to delete channels (this then becomes active).
3. I then select the channel I want to delete by choosing ok, a little blue x appears beside this channel and any other channels you select and want to delete.
4. I select ok and then select back on the remote...you get a message then saying doing you want to save the new settings....I say yes....and then nothing changes......

Any ideas....?

Thanks
J

Rather than deleting all the channels in a scan, why don't you setup a favourites list. Rename it Main channels, Sat & Saorview list or whatever you want then add the channels you want to this list and then resort within that favourite list ?

Delete should work. It only wont work if you have highlighted the NO button.

There is also a software channel list editor that you can take off the box, edit on a PC and load back. Its on the ferguson website under the model stb you have.

STB

wextipp wrote: »

Any body know anything about CEC. I notice on the Ariva 250 an option to turn it on or off, it's on by default. If I have it on and turn-off my TV it will turn off the Ariva as well, which is handy. Just wondering what else can be done with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC

Yes this is also the case with my Samsung TV, on HDMI 1 it recognises it as an Ali STB and enables CEC. The whole advantage is that the remote will control your TV as well as the box (but it does this anyway through having the Universal type remote features). As to what else it controls depends on the other features of your TV.

STB

Add RTE1 from 28.2 to your favourite channel list. Rename it Aertel.

Whilst it will say encrypted channel, the Aertel text is not encrypted and will work by pressing the text button.

Colmos85

Nice:D

STB wrote: »

Add RTE1 from 28.2 to your favourite channel list. Rename it Aertel.

Whilst it will say encrypted channel, the Aertel text is not encrypted and will work by pressing the text button.

wextipp

STB wrote: »

Add RTE1 from 28.2 to your favourite channel list. Rename it Aertel.

Whilst it will say encrypted channel, the Aertel text is not encrypted and will work by pressing the text button.

Great tip!. That's what I call thinking outside the box (Set-top)

Thargor

Why are RTE still broadcasting the old Aertel anyway? Will a software change ever get us the new Aertel on our Arivas or is it a hardware issue? Dont know why Im asking as I probably havent looked at Aertel for info in about 5 years.

Colmos85

I think the new Aertel needs Mheg 5. Software upgrade would do this but dont know if it will ever become available from Ferguson.

I'm only 80% sure my info is correct so correct me if I'm wrong.

Thargor wrote: »

Why are RTE still broadcasting the old Aertel anyway? Will a software change ever get us the new Aertel on our Arivas or is it a hardware issue? Dont know why Im asking as I probably havent looked at Aertel for info in about 5 years.

MickserB

not sure who even uses Aertels or the like anymore, wouldnt be a deal breaker for me when coming to purchasing a box

STB

Thargor wrote: »

Why are RTE still broadcasting the old Aertel anyway? Will a software change ever get us the new Aertel on our Arivas or is it a hardware issue? Dont know why Im asking as I probably havent looked at Aertel for info in about 5 years.

It's a softare issue, they simply dont load an mheg engine in the software to gather the data. The boxes are pan european rather than geared towards Ireland and the UK.

RTE are still maintaining the old aertel EBU text in order to supply Sky with this service. Shocking given it was discontinued on the Saorview Mux, despite being in the spec for Saorview and despite the fact that it takes a very small of space up on the multiplex.

For those with combo boxes this solution will have to be the compromise.

The Pontiac

Colmos85 wrote: »

Hey,

My Ariva 250 is acting strange, the terrestrial channels are all freezing and the network options rarely work. I upgraded to v1.20 and I still get the same results.
Had anyone got similar problems?

petersburg2002 wrote: »

My terrestrial channels were doing the same. The satellite channels were fine. But the aerial was to blame. I'm just using an indoor aerial as I live in an urban area. So I just bought a new UHF indoor aerial. Problem resolved. Bad weather does tend to mess up the signal though (as it does with the Sky dish too).

Any updates on these issues? I'm having the same problems (and lip sync)..

I'd like to know if the problem is with the Ariva box or the aerial. I'm getting my aerial moved up higher, but am I wasting my time?

MickserB

I reckon its a firmware update, but I am amazed at how many different issues people are getting with these boxs, some suffer sync issues, others freezing, the apps are an ongoing thing i fear, have seen other issues elsewhere that effects some boxs and not others

fatherland

I have the 250 box but i cant find the sleep timer, i watch telly while falling asleep and i want box to turn off to standby, cause at moment it stays on for the nit! anyone help me please

STB

You can change the bootlogo and the radio background logo on these by the way (confirmed).

For those who were sick of that dvbxtreme logo!

Example - My radio logo background

arv fergus

Is it possible to save a channel list to a USB stick from my box (upload them from box to USB) so I can then load the same list onto another box.

arv fergus

Is it possible to save a channel list to a USB stick from my box (upload them from box to USB) so I can then load the same list onto another box.

jeltz

STB wrote: »

RTE are still maintaining the old aertel EBU text in order to supply Sky with this service. Shocking given it was discontinued on the Saorview Mux, despite being in the spec for Saorview and despite the fact that it takes a very small of space up on the multiplex.

Moronic when you consider Europes biggest public service broadcasters still use EBU text.

Colmos85

I still have these issues, Im bringing the box to another friends house and see if there is the same issue with breaking up and freezing. I will post in the next few days with results. Im still not sure it its the aerial, an old coaxial cable or the box, but when you check signal its pretty good so I just dont know.

<Ollie> wrote: »

Any updates on these issues? I'm having the same problems (and lip sync)..

I'd like to know if the problem is with the Ariva box or the aerial. I'm getting my aerial moved up higher, but am I wasting my time?

dodzy

arv fergus wrote: »

Is it possible to save a channel list to a USB stick from my box (upload download them from box to USB) so I can then load the same list onto another box.

yes, with the proviso that both boxes are the same model and running the same FW version.

The Pontiac

Colmos85 wrote: »

I still have these issues, Im bringing the box to another friends house and see if there is the same issue with breaking up and freezing. I will post in the next few days with results. Im still not sure it its the aerial, an old coaxial cable or the box, but when you check signal its pretty good so I just dont know.

Good stuff. It will be very interesting to hear the results.

Nowso

the terrestrial reception is a major issue that needs sorting asap

STB

Nowso wrote: »

the terrestrial reception is a major issue that needs sorting asap

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who cant see beyond it is "the boxes fault" rather their own cabling aerial type and positioning.

I live 57km from Mount Leinster, I have a solid signal that never deteriorates and I am using an indoor aerial! I must be lucky given I have 3 from the Ariva range and dont experience these problems.

Take it away from the box and look at your aerial setups etc. There is a quite simple reason for your issues.

Nowso

STB wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who cant see beyond it is "the boxes fault" rather their own cabling aerial type and positioning.

I live 57km from Mount Leinster, I have a solid signal that never deteriorates and I am using an indoor aerial! I must be lucky given I have 3 from the Ariva range and dont experience these problems.

Take it away from the box and look at your aerial setups etc. There is a quite simple reason for your issues.

i have a tv connected from the aerial out of the arriva to the tv and the reception on the tv on the terrestrial channels are fine and are not from the arriva to the same tv via hdmi.

STB

Nowso wrote: »

i have a tv connected from the aerial out of the arriva to the tv and the reception on the tv on the terrestrial channels are fine and are not from the arriva to the same tv via hdmi.

So..... let try and figure out what your problem is then.

The loop out of the Ariva is feeding a signal to your TV's digital tuner would not rule out an aerial problem in any event. Not all tuners have the same threshold or the signal passed might be reduced.

1. What does your TV's signal strength and quality say on the RTE channels when using the IDTVs own tuner from the signal passed on? Is it varying considerably ?

2. Whilst viewing the tuner on the Ariva (rather than the TV) what does the quality and signal strength say quality and strength (pressing the white button also gives you a BER reading) What does that say numbers wise and does it vary.

3. What type aerial are you using and are you using a amplifier of any sort.

Colmos85

I have this issue too, When i change the resolution down to 570p or below its fine. Can you check that?
I will be taking my box to a buddies over the weekend and see if its still happening.

Nowso wrote: »

the terrestrial reception is a major issue that needs sorting asap

arv fergus

Colmos85 wrote: »

I have this issue too, When i change the resolution down to 570p or below its fine. Can you check that?
I will be taking my box to a buddies over the weekend and see if its still happening.

The boxes do give trouble sometimes and show no signal for satellite and terrestrial but yet if you try another box every thing is grand.if you do a reset to factory default and then Rescan all your satellite and tres it be grand.

Nowso

i did a recording on the satellite channels and it was effected by the reception of terrestrial channels . i reflashed and still no good so removing the channels so i can record properly

phil49

When I set up the Startup channel on my 250 to RTE1 Terrestrial and save. Then when I power it up again from standby I get a "No Signal" indication. Then I try the white button to see if the terrestrial channel has been found and it tells me that it is looking at "Arabsat" . Does anybody know what might be wrong in setting up the startup channel to RTE1 and getting this

Tony

Not sure whats causing this but as a workaround if you put the box on RTE and then do a dumpfile to a USB key, when you reload the dumpfile using USB userdb upgrade it will always power on with the same channel.

phil49 wrote: »

When I set up the Startup channel on my 250 to RTE1 Terrestrial and save. Then when I power it up again from standby I get a "No Signal" indication. Then I try the white button to see if the terrestrial channel has been found and it tells me that it is looking at "Arabsat" . Does anybody know what might be wrong in setting up the startup channel to RTE1 and getting this

phil49

Thanks Tony I'll try that over the next few days

O'Prez

STB wrote: »

You can change the bootlogo and the radio background logo on these by the way (confirmed).

For those who were sick of that dvbxtreme logo!

Example - My radio logo background

How do you do that STB?

STB

phil49 wrote: »

When I set up the Startup channel on my 250 to RTE1 Terrestrial and save. Then when I power it up again from standby I get a "No Signal" indication. Then I try the white button to see if the terrestrial channel has been found and it tells me that it is looking at "Arabsat" . Does anybody know what might be wrong in setting up the startup channel to RTE1 and getting this

In System Setup, go to Startup Channel and turn it off.

When it boots up it automatically remembers the last channel viewed.

STB

O'Prez wrote: »

How do you do that STB?

I used 2 pieces of software. One to create M2V files from two JPEGs which are the pictures at booting stage (bootlogo) and the radio background picture (radiologo).

Then I used a patcher which embeds them in the firmware dumpfile with existing channel lists I had taken from the box originally.

I will post links and instructions if you are interested in doing it yourself.

O'Prez

STB wrote: »

I used 2 pieces of software. One to create M2V files from two JPEGs which are the pictures at booting stage (bootlogo) and the radio background picture (radiologo).

Then I used a patcher which embeds them in the firmware dumpfile with existing channel lists I had taken from the box originally.

I will post links and instructions if you are interested in doing it yourself.

That'd be great. Thanks STB

iba

STB wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who cant see beyond it is "the boxes fault" rather their own cabling aerial type and positioning.

I live 57km from Mount Leinster, I have a solid signal that never deteriorates and I am using an indoor aerial! I must be lucky given I have 3 from the Ariva range and dont experience these problems.

Take it away from the box and look at your aerial setups etc. There is a quite simple reason for your issues.

Im in Dublin 15, dont know how far away that is, but Im just using Rabbit years bought in Lidl 4 about a tenner and I get good reception too

gg69me

O'Prez wrote: »

That'd be great. Thanks STB

is it really that important .
i would sooner get advice on how to get youporn and dailymotion and the weather app to work again....youtube works fine as i have an ethernet cable connected directly into the box from my router but still only have youtube working even though they all worked a few weeks ago....any advice ?

iba

gg69me wrote: »

is it really that important .
i would sooner get advice on how to get youporn and dailymotion and the weather app to work again....youtube works fine as i have an ethernet cable connected directly into the box from my router but still only have youtube working even though they all worked a few weeks ago....any advice ?

There is nothing you can do - they dont work 4 anyone - maybe after the next s/w update

gg69me

iba wrote: »

There is nothing you can do - they dont work 4 anyone - maybe after the next s/w update

how come we got to keep updating the software to get these to keep working ...Ferguson need to realise that as adults we will change the password function to our own when we originally buy the box so they dont need to worry about kids getting access to stuff they shouldnt be watching and is that why they keep taking them off the air or is it that youporn goes off the air or is it a bigger problem altogether.
..... it would be nice for the weather app etc to work aswell . google maps and youtube is all that is working now on my box, and sometimes vimeo but as you say what can we do only wait for a new update and maybe some extra apps on there while they are at it

iba

gg69me wrote: »

how come we got to keep updating the software to get these to keep working ...Ferguson need to realise that as adults we will change the password function to our own when we originally buy the box so they dont need to worry about kids getting access to stuff they shouldnt be watching and is that why they keep taking them off the air or is it that youporn goes off the air or is it a bigger problem altogether.
..... it would be nice for the weather app etc to work aswell . google maps and youtube is all that is working now on my box, and sometimes vimeo but as you say what can we do only wait for a new update and maybe some extra apps on there while they are at it

I dont know the answer, maybe Tony does, but ur actually doing better than me; google maps does not work 4 me

Thargor

Am I being blind or is there:

1. No 'previous programme' button on the remote?

2. No way to tell when you're actually recording?

STB

gg69me wrote: »

how come we got to keep updating the software to get these to keep working ...Ferguson need to realise that as adults we will change the password function to our own when we originally buy the box so they dont need to worry about kids getting access to stuff they shouldnt be watching and is that why they keep taking them off the air or is it that youporn goes off the air or is it a bigger problem altogether.
..... it would be nice for the weather app etc to work aswell . google maps and youtube is all that is working now on my box, and sometimes vimeo but as you say what can we do only wait for a new update and maybe some extra apps on there while they are at it

Because the sites themselves are changing stuff constantly which affects the youporn API etc

STB

Thargor wrote: »

Am I being blind or is there:

1. No 'previous programme' button on the remote?

2. No way to tell when you're actually recording?

1. The back button will do this for you/

2. Red light on box screen.

Thargor

Thanks but that calls up a list of recently viewed channels that you then move the cursor to and select, I was just wondering if there was a single button that let you hop back and forth, no big deal really...

Never noticed the red light on the front either, thanks.

STB

Thargor wrote: »

Thanks but that calls up a list of recently viewed channels that you then move the cursor to and select, I was just wondering if there was a single button that let you hop back and forth, no big deal really...

Never noticed the red light on the front either, thanks.

Pressing the back button and then Okay will switch between the last 2 channels you were watching. Similar to a one button recall button but with 2 key moves.

petersburg2002

STB wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who cant see beyond it is "the boxes fault" rather their own cabling aerial type and positioning.

I live 57km from Mount Leinster, I have a solid signal that never deteriorates and I am using an indoor aerial! I must be lucky given I have 3 from the Ariva range and dont experience these problems.

Take it away from the box and look at your aerial setups etc. There is a quite simple reason for your issues.

Have to agree. I'm in city centre using an indoor aerial and HDMI cable. Signal strength is only at 29% but no problems. Very happy with the box.

Tonio

STB wrote: »

Pressing the back button and then Okay will switch between the last 2 channels you were watching. Similar to a one button recall button but with 2 key moves.

Pressing back twice in quick succession also works... at least on my 120 - may work on the 150/250 also if the remotes are similar!

iba

New update released:

http://www.ferguson-digital.eu/en/download/HD-Satellite-Receivers/Ariva-250-Combo/

Ph3arTh35k1llz

They need to sort it so you can bring channel lists from older versions. That's the 4th update since I got this in about 4 months I hate scanning channels! Anyone have a changelog for this one?

MickserB

I have used an older chan file on mine and it works, up to you if you want to do the same, some say not to, but I am starting to suspect it causes the box issues in other ways

Changelog
changed service provider for "weather online"
- distinguished service Web TV
- Improved API of all online video
- added service check results of the last 10 football games
- Improved recording timers in the background - mainly Combo models
- and other