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Liveline Thread 25/7/12 to 12/10/2012

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    #3782
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Lapin wrote: »
    Joe knows too damn well what the silly season is. He's responsible for much of it.

    I think that is what Derek Mooney's show should be called.....

    The Silly Season (with Brek).


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    #3783
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    I think that is what Derek Mooney's show should be called.....

    The Neverending Silly Season (with Brek).

    .............^^^^


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    #3784
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    JonathanAnon wrote: »
    I think that is what Derek Mooney's show should be called.....

    The Silly Season (with Brek).

    Could we put a Plague on his house?


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    #3785
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Could we put a Plague on his house?

    Locusts or bubonic?


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    #3786
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Locusts or bubonic?

    Whatever's in season. He's a painful host and actually sounds like a very dislikable prat. Or maybe we should just send Mannix around!


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    #3787
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    For somebody who was never short of a soundbite when he was in opposition, Reilly seems to be as evident as Lord Lucan these days. B'stard.

    in fairness to reilly he has the ****test job in the govt. too many pen pushers who are protected by their union over lords through the croke park agreement. if he could rid half the wasters he could the money back into services and medical staff rather then pen pushers and people taking career breaks & long term sick leave.


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    #3788
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    neris wrote: »
    in fairness to reilly he has the ****test job in the govt. too many pen pushers who are protected by their union over lords through the croke park agreement. if he could rid half the wasters he could the money back into services and medical staff rather then pen pushers and people taking career breaks & long term sick leave.

    Let's not forget it was Reilly who, as president of the IMO, was one of the chief negotiators for the obscene salaries and contracts given to hospital consultants, and because these were contracts they can't be touched, so instead Jimbo concentrates on cutting back on home help services for the sick and elderly, while the consultants continue to swan about in a parallel universe, thanks, in no small part, to Dr. James Reilly. You couldn't make it up :mad:


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    #3789
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    Let's not forget it was Reilly who, as president of the IMO, was one of the chief negotiators for the obscene salaries and contracts given to hospital consultants, and because these were contracts they can't be touched, so instead Jimbo concentrates on cutting back on home help services for the sick and elderly, while the consultants continue to swan about in a parallel universe, thanks, in no small part, to Dr. James Reilly. You couldn't make it up :mad:

    I think your anger is misplaced.

    When he was head of the IMO he was on the other side of the fence. He was looking for more money for the members of the organisation. Anyone else in that position would have done the same. Are you trying to tell me at your last salary review you accepted less than what you could get for "the good of the company"?

    There was a perfectly good Minister for Health who could have said no, or who could have negotiated for less, but they didn't. Same party then signed the CPA tying future governments into being able to do eff all.


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    #3790
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    syklops wrote: »
    I think your anger is misplaced.

    When he was head of the IMO he was on the other side of the fence. He was looking for more money for the members of the organisation. Anyone else in that position would have done the same. Are you trying to tell me at your last salary review you accepted less than what you could get for "the good of the company"?

    There was a perfectly good Minister for Health who could have said no, or who could have negotiated for less, but they didn't. Same party then signed the CPA tying future governments into being able to do eff all.

    Yeah, he was looking for more money for members of an organistaion which were already being paid a lot more than their counterparts in the UK and most countries in Europe. Maybe that might explain why Reilly owns a stately home in County Offaly with 13 bedrooms? :rolleyes:


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    #3791
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    Maybe that might explain why Reilly owns a stately home in County Offaly with 13 bedrooms? :rolleyes:


    A Plague on that house too! :D


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    #3792
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    Yeah, he was looking for more money for members of an organistaion which were already being paid a lot more than their counterparts in the UK and most countries in Europe

    So? If part of your job as head of an organisation is to look for more money then thats what you do. If he didnt go looking for it, he might have been sacked from his position. He was not employed to look after the purse strings in those days. The budget was not his concern, his concern was getting the best for his members. As would be your concern were you in his position.

    Why are you not blaming the previous Minister for Health for making the deal?


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    #3793
    Harry Angstrom
    Registered Users Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom


    syklops wrote: »
    So? If part of your job as head of an organisation is to look for more money then thats what you do. If he didnt go looking for it, he might have been sacked from his position. He was not employed to look after the purse strings in those days. The budget was not his concern, his concern was getting the best for his members. As would be your concern were you in his position.

    Why are you not blaming the previous Minister for Health for making the deal?

    Of course the previous Minister for Health must shoulder some of the blame, but one of the reasons why there's such a shortfall in the Health budget is because of over-inflated salaries, and Reilly himself was directly responsible for this in a previous existence, presumably with the threat of strike action if their demands weren't met. And it's not that long ago that the consultants threatened to strike because of an issue they had with the Government over insurance, (even though they're supposed to have a 'no-strike' clause).

    He's now picking on the easy targets, ie home help because it's the path of least resistance. How come the HSE pays commensurately far more for drugs than the NHS does? Why hasn't Reilly tried to fix this anomaly? He's had 18 months to try to sort that out but he hasn't. Instead he's going to cut the hours that sick and elderly people receive through home help.
    Of course, it won't matter to Reilly because he won't be the one who's got to tell an elderly and infirm person or a Parkinson's sufferer that their help is being cut back. And sure, they can always move into Reilly's private nursing home if they have enough dosh, can't they? :rolleyes:


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    #3794
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    Of course the previous Minister for Health must shoulder some of the blame, but one of the reasons why there's such a shortfall in the Health budget is because of over-inflated salaries, and Reilly himself was directly responsible for this in a previous existence, presumably with the threat of strike action if their demands weren't met. And it's not that long ago that the consultants threatened to strike because of an issue they had with the Government over insurance, (even though they're supposed to have a 'no-strike' clause).

    I understand where you are coming from but I think your anger is still mis-placed. If the department I work for goes bust tomorrow, am I directly responsible because I asked for 65k instead of 45k. 45k would have been fine, I could have lived quite happily on that, but instead I negotiated 65k. Am I directly responsible for the collapse?

    When Dr O'Reilly negotiated the terms, he was the one doing the asking, not the guy rubber stamping it all.
    Of course, it won't matter to Reilly because he won't be the one who's got to tell an elderly and infirm person or a Parkinson's sufferer that their help is being cut back. And sure, they can always move into Reilly's private nursing home if they have enough dosh, can't they? :rolleyes:

    Actually he met with a number of disabled people last night and discussed their plight. This was before last nights cabinet meeting which prompted the governments u-turn on the plans to cut services.

    Joe will be unbearable today.


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    #3795
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    so will joes topic be for today the reversal of cuts or the child abuse in the church. definitley wont be sunshine lollipops and rainbows


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    #3796
    shockwave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭shockwave


    neris wrote: »
    so will joes topic be for today the reversal of cuts or the child abuse in the church. definitley wont be sunshine lollipops and rainbows

    He'll probably have both and have a miseryfest today.


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    #3797
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I cant listen to ANOTHER day of that.. If Danny Ellis comes out the radio is going through the window..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEFb2VA5l4


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    #3798
    europa11
    Registered Users Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭europa11


    shockwave wrote: »
    He'll probably have both and have a miseryfest today.

    Gold-plated nipple clamps are being readied as we speak, although News at One are getting so much out of the Child Protection Audits he'll probably concentrate on giving himself a good portion of self-congratulatory back slaps first on the Home Help protest before wrenching out the Church abuse cases......and tears!


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    #3799
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Wait for it.. "Good afternoon Anthony, you were in Artane".. :(


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    #3800
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Fasten your seatbelts, heeeeere we go......:D


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    #3801
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    quickest bad line ever on liveline


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    #3802
    shockwave
    Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭shockwave


    More feckin carers.


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    #3803
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    No sign of God's apologosts yet.

















    Praise the Lord !


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    #3804
    europa11
    Registered Users Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭europa11


    Joe works through an Agent too and he gets more than €9 an hour......sorry, €9 a second.


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    #3805
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    why do these workers think their being fleeced? the minimum wage is €8.65. if they think their being underpaid why not resign or strike


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    #3806
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Is that €9.00 oper hour Joe, or €900.00 per hour?
    Equally is it €20.00 oper hour Joe, or €2,000.00 per hour?

    I can't be sure as you haven't clarified today.........:rolleyes:


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    #3807
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    "I had to use up two weeks of MY annual leave"..

    If you're not happy with the job, DO SOMETHING ELSE, but get off my radio..


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    #3808
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Is Marian trying to disguise her voice?


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    #3809
    Jaysoose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    neris wrote: »
    why do these workers think their being fleeced? the minimum wage is €8.65. if they think their being underpaid why not resign or strike


    Because they are entitled to more..they just are.


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    #3810
    neris
    Registered Users Posts: 20,054 ✭✭✭✭neris


    joe do rte pay u to drive to work??

    probably not as im sure you have a chauffer


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    #3811
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Is that €9.00 oper hour Joe, or €900.00 per hour? Equally is it €20.00 oper hour Joe, or €2,000.00 per hour?

    Yeah, this is to the forefront of my thinking every time I hear joke giving out about the agency hourly rate.. complete hypocrisy.. How much do Joe's makey uppey company (for tax avoidance purposes) charge in FEEES to RTE..


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