Liveline Thread 25/7/12 to 12/10/2012

syklops

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Absolutely agree, but I'm assuming it would be the responsibility of the patient to give the contact details of their next of kin and maybe in this situation he wasn't cooperative.

If he isnt being co-operative, don't discharge him. I, personally, don't think anyone who has tried to top themselves should be discharged same day.

Sittingpretty

Oh God her voice is just heartbreaking.

She sounds so lost.

IvyTheTerrible

I know she would have liked to be told that her son had tried something but it's not a possibility.

Lucy from fair city

She sounds like the anti dole type alright

Sittingpretty

syklops wrote: »

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Absolutely agree, but I'm assuming it would be the responsibility of the patient to give the contact details of their next of kin and maybe in this situation he wasn't cooperative.

If he isnt being co-operative, don't discharge him. I, personally, don't think anyone who has tried to top themselves should be discharged same day.

Absolutely agreed. But to best of my knowlege you can discharge yourself? Open to correction on that.

RadioRetro

syklops wrote: »

If he isnt being co-operative, don't discharge him. I, personally, don't think anyone who has tried to top themselves should be discharged same day.

But the thing is, they can't. The patient has the absolute right to discharge him or herself, all the doctors and nurses can do is ask the patient if they understand that they are leaving against the express wishes of the medical personnel. Patient says "Yes" and off they trot.

SEPT 23 1989

Lucy from fair city wrote: »

She sounds like the anti dole type alright

ButtersSuki

europa11 wrote: »

Never again to meet Bang Bang

Is that really Bang Bang? I've never seen a picture of the legend lunatic before.

syklops

Sittingpretty wrote: »

Absolutely agreed. But to best of my knowlege you can discharge yourself? Open to correction on that.

AFAIK, there are levels. A doctor can put on your chart "This person should not be discharged", and you then can't leave officially.

SEPT 23 1989

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Is that really Bang Bang? I've never seen a picture of the legend lunatic before.

i Did not know Bang BanG was Down Syndrome

ButtersSuki

europa11 wrote: »

ffs, it's every feckin' day now :mad:. I'd bet he's hoping someone gets wrapped around a tractor when they're off at the Ploughing thing during the week.

No chance of that happening now what with the new PTO Safety Ad out. There'll never be another accident on a farm in Ireland ever again.:rolleyes:

syklops

RadioRetro wrote: »

But the thing is, they can't. The patient has the absolute right to discharge him or herself, all the doctors and nurses can do is ask the patient if they understand that they are leaving against the express wishes of the medical personnel. Patient says "Yes" and off they trot.

Well if thats the case, then it should be changed.

Sittingpretty

RadioRetro wrote: »

syklops wrote: »

If he isnt being co-operative, don't discharge him. I, personally, don't think anyone who has tried to top themselves should be discharged same day.

But the thing is, they can't. The patient has the absolute right to discharge him or herself, all the doctors and nurses can do is ask the patient if they understand that they are leaving against the express wishes of the medical personnel. Patient says "Yes" and off they trot.

I worked in a private hospital and patients who wished to discharge themselves were asked to sign a note to say they were doing so against medical advice.
To protect only the hospital of course, not for genuine patient concern.

"death by suicide" is a very irritating phrase Joe.

Suzie4

i have heard this woman so many times on the fcuking radio...her voice goes through me..neeeeeeeeeeeeeed....neeeeeeeeeeeeeddd..

the sucide rate isnt amazingly ott compare to world wide averages..

life just isnt for some people. the sooner people accept this the better.

europa11

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Is that really Bang Bang? I've never seen a picture of the legend lunatic before.

Yep....and that's the most complementary one I could find, Google "Bang Bang Dublin character" for some of the madder ones

I'd have jumped off the bus if I saw that nut approaching. Even if it meant spilling the coddle all over the street

ButtersSuki

A chat and a cup of Lyons Tea will prevent 99% of all deaths by suicide. FACT.

jetfiremuck

The blame game.....guilt .....wtf. If you are prepared to pay to see a phsycitarist you wont be waiting for 3 weeks for an appointment.

JonathanAnon

"he attempted death by suicide"...

ffs... What sort of softening of "he tried to kill himself" is that? I dont think anything is served by Joe looking through his Big Book Of Expressions for euphemisms.

Big Daddy Cool

sad tale but unfortunately this topic has been done forever on this show and nothing has/is going to be done, and certainly not by Joe Duffy, next topic

RadioRetro

syklops wrote: »

Well if thats the case, then it should be changed.

It is and it should. My mother discharged herself once from a hospital and afterwards I discussed the options with a doctor and three nurses and all basically said what I posted.

ButtersSuki

Joe was giving out about Volunteers last week, now he's all for them.

Ok, they were paramilitary volunteers, but volunteers nonetheless!

Suzie4

how about people accept suicide as something some people want to do..

they were brought into the world without their consent,some people dont like it here.

nothing wrong with killing yourself .

JonathanAnon

Suzie4 wrote: »

the sucide rate isnt amazingly ott compare to world wide averages..

I see what you're saying.. Sometimes it's good to look at things on a macro level..:D

Suzie4

outdoors and indoors....well thats everywhere einstein.

IvyTheTerrible

There are two places where people commit suicide, inside and outside.

Where else could the do it?

europa11

Leave your radio on Mary, just hang up instead!

RayM

I know it's a depressing topic, but suicide is a massive issue in this country, and is far more worthy of airtime than tedious reminiscences about Clery's and Guiney's, or any of Joe's other self-indulgent, narrow, parochial pet-subjects.

Cienciano

What a brilliant line:
"There's 2 places where people commit suicide. Indoors, and they also do it outdoors"

europa11

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

There are two places where people commit suicide, inside and outside.

Where else could the do it?

Joe's place.

Suzie4

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I see what you're saying.. Sometimes it's good to look at things on a macro level..:D

i find its best to try to see things on the macro level most of the time jon...

works for me fine;)