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British and Irish Lions Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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    #3392
    Hype710
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    Corbisiero starts for London Irish this weekend.


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    #3393
    totallegend
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    Hype710 wrote: »
    Corbisiero starts for London Irish this weekend.

    Is he in with a shot for the Lions? I'd have thought Healy and Jenkins are nailed on but wouldn't put Corbisiero in for the third slot


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    #3394
    .ak
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    totallegend wrote: »
    Is he in with a shot for the Lions? I'd have thought Healy and Jenkins are nailed on but wouldn't put Corbisiero in for the third slot

    Think it's too little, too late imo.


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    #3395
    Hype710
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    Gatland has said he's taking 6 props, so there is a slot there. Marler and Vunipola aren't ready IMO, they're where Cian Healy was a couple of years ago, powerful in the loose but suspect in the scrum. Ryan Grant is OK. Doubtful he'll take both Sheridan and Jenkins from Toulon. So I'd say Corbisiero has a chance. Gatland will know more than us about his fitness. If he's likely to break down again, he's unlikely to take him. But he could be worth the risk.


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    #3396
    irishbucsfan
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    Brian Moore saying on twitter that rumours suggest its Warburton.


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    #3397
    .ak
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Brian Moore saying on twitter that rumours suggest its Warburton.

    Wouldn't surprise me, but I'd be a little disappointed. Think he's a fantastic fella, but I'd rather someone who has form that doesn't dip. Obviously my Irish glasses are on but I just think the effect POC has on a team can't be underestimated. Ditto with BOD.

    I'd have AWJ ahead of most them tho.


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    #3398
    ssaye
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    SOB pushing for the 6 position now more likely


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    #3399
    Podge_irl
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    ssaye wrote: »
    SOB pushing for the 6 position now more likely

    Except I think Warburton will end up at 6 as Tipuric has been the better 7 this season.

    Its a poor choice.


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    #3400
    ssaye
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    Really impressed last 2+ seasons by Tipuric

    Test team

    Wales 6
    England 5
    Ireland 3
    Scotland 1

    Maybe?


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    #3401
    trouttrout
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    I think it's a very bad call if true. Warburton has put in one performance of note since 2011 on an international stage. Even if he was at the height of his game there's too much competition in the backrow to have the captain there ( I think you need the captain to be a cert to start btw)

    POC or AWJ would have been much better calls imo


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    #3402
    Noopti
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    Warburton would be an odd choice in my mind. His form has been nowhere near what it was, and I wouldn't have him in my back-row for the tests.

    I know Gatland said the captain doesn't have to play, but being realistic the captain should be playing if possible - so it really should be someone who is more nailed on. I would actually suggest Sexton, BOD, POC, Jones or AWJ as I think they are more likely nailed on starters.

    If the captain doesn't play then what is he there for, motivation during training? Photocalls? While the real leaders are on the pitch. Strange.


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    #3403
    Podge_irl
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    Also, he is a 24 year old first time tourist who has been struggling for form all season.

    The more I think about it the less sense it makes.


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    #3404
    .ak
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    An all welsh back row would be a waste of a lions tour imo.


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    #3405
    ssaye
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    .ak wrote: »
    An all welsh back row would be a waste of a lions tour imo.

    Welsh 15?

    :pac:


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    #3406
    thomond2006
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    .ak wrote: »
    An all welsh back row would be a waste of a lions tour imo.

    Were you against 11 Fitzgerald 15 Kearney 14 Bowe in the second test four years ago? ;)


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    #3407
    .ak
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Were you against 11 Fitzgerald 15 Kearney 14 Bowe in the second test four years ago? ;)

    That was due to injury tho.


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    #3408
    thomond2006
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    .ak wrote: »
    That was due to injury tho.

    only to Byrne. Monye was rightly dropped.


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    #3409
    Podge_irl
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    .ak wrote: »
    That was due to injury tho.

    Also the alternative to Fitz was Ugo Monye. It wasn't exactly an outstanding crop of back 3 players. With the backrow talent the Lions will have available I'd love to see some variety there. Also, with the amount of talent there is having a backrow forward in questionable form as captain isn't very smart.

    At least if BOD was tour captain and didn't play in the tests he would still have influence due to his experience and decade long stellar career. If Warburton is tour captain while not playing I don't think he carries any weight. Its a waste.


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    #3410
    thomond2006
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    The captain can only be one man....















    you know who I'm talking about....


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    #3411
    .ak
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    only to Byrne. Monye was rightly dropped.

    Yeah, my point was they didn't start with an all Irish back 3. If Warburton, Tipuric and Falateu prove themselves then fine... As much of a fan of Tipuric I am he wasn't the best 7 of the competition (6 nations) and Warburton only had one good game.


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    #3412
    .ak
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The captain can only be one man....















    you know who I'm talking about....

    Mike Ross?


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    #3413
    ssaye
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    Summary of the last one

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_British_and_Irish_Lions_tour_to_South_Africa

    Always interesting to look over previous ones


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    #3414
    Grimebox
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    I was working during that infamous second test. I only watched it recently in full. The amount of fights were crazy


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    #3415
    Hype710
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    The more I think about it, the more crazy it seems to pick Warburton. The back row will be so ridiculously competitive that one average performance from him and a media frenzy will ensue that won't be good for the Lions, Gatland, or Warburton himself. I can imagine there'll be people campaigning for Tipuric, SOB and Robshaw all to be selected in the 7 shirt ahead of him.


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    #3416
    who_me
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The captain can only be one man....

    +1

    Indeed! Let's not mention the infamous 1896 Lions, captained by a woman and a budgie..


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    #3417
    FellasFellas
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    Hype710 wrote: »
    The more I think about it, the more crazy it seems to pick Warburton. The back row will be so ridiculously competitive that one average performance from him and a media frenzy will ensue that won't be good for the Lions, Gatland, or Warburton himself. I can imagine there'll be people campaigning for Tipuric, SOB and Robshaw all to be selected in the 7 shirt ahead of him.

    Robshaw will find it tough to go on the tour let alone starting at 7. I feel that it'll either be Warburton or Tipuric at 7. Remember in 09, Wally had it nailed on, those were the days..


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    #3418
    Hype710
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    FellasFellas wrote: »
    Robshaw will find it tough to go on the tour let alone starting at 7. I feel that it'll either be Warburton or Tipuric at 7. Remember in 09, Wally had it nailed on, those were the days..

    Agree on Robshaw, but I think Farrell and Rowntree will have their say and he will go. Don't totally agree on Wally, he indirectly benefited from Ferris' injury imo. If Ferris hadn't got injured it could well have been a Ferris and Martyn Williams combo. Croft and Williams would have been far too light weight.


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    #3419
    Chabals Beard
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    I would love if POM went , probably wouldn't get near the test side, able to to play anywhere in the backrow and wing ;) would help his chances.


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    #3420
    trouttrout
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    I'd take POM over Robshaw, but thangs don't work like that


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    #3421
    Swiwi
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The captain can only be one man....















    you know who I'm talking about....

    I think Dylan Hartley will be lucky to make the plane TBH Thomond.


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