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British and Irish Lions Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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    #1082
    Deano7788
    Registered Users Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    danthefan wrote: »
    Who cares? Who seriously cares? Why is it an issue?

    This is why ;)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1914XF8afo


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    #1083
    thomond2006
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Who cares? Who seriously cares? Why is it an issue?

    I just thought it was a bit over the top when he did 3/4 times in a game. It wouldn't make me dislike him or anything.


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    #1084
    danthefan
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    Have only seen the extended highlights but Tuilagi was very impressive today.

    The Lions should be aiming to win this tour 3-0 imo. Aus aren't all that and there's a lot of good players in B&I at the moment.


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    #1085
    jamiedav2011
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    He said he'd cut out the swan dives but for top quality tries, it got a bit stupid when he was diving for a walkover try against Romania.

    Will be interesting to see what he does in Thomond next week.


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    #1086
    Deano7788
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    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    Will be interesting to see what he does in Thomond next week.

    I hope we're not given that chance thank you very much :pac:.


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    #1087
    jamiedav2011
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    Deano7788 wrote: »
    I hope we're not given that chance thank you very much :pac:.

    I think Sarries will fancy their chances tbh, they've been steadily improving and Hodgson is back too.

    Plus Goode, Farrell, Ashton, Barritt will be on a high after this week.


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    #1088
    Deano7788
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    jamiedav2011 wrote: »
    I think Sarries will fancy their chances tbh, they've been steadily improving and Hodgson is back too.

    Plus Goode, Farrell, Ashton, Barritt will be on a high after this week.

    Yeah, I'd say they will. Still, as a Munster fan, I'd rather Ashton did not get a chance to practice his diving technique :).


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    #1089
    Fooker
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    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Stuart Hogg? I have not seen much of him, but he does have bucket-loads of pace.

    He would fit in as a utility back like Earls in 09 and he would be one of the few token scots needed to tour..


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    #1090
    Deano7788
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    Fooker wrote: »
    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Stuart Hogg? I have not seen much of him, but he does have bucket-loads of pace.

    He would fit in as a utility back like Earls in 09 and he would be one of the few token scots needed to tour..

    I think, to a degree, he's unlucky that he's primarily a full back so there are 2 outstanding options already there in Kearney and (hopefully after today) Halfpenny. England have 3 good options there as well so it's a heavily contested position.


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    #1091
    yimrsg
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    Hogg is playing 13 at the moment against Munster in an insipid Glasgow backline. He's their only bright spark.


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    #1092
    Fireball07
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    Fooker wrote: »
    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Stuart Hogg? I have not seen much of him, but he does have bucket-loads of pace.

    He would fit in as a utility back like Earls in 09 and he would be one of the few token scots needed to tour..

    Can't see Hogg starting but I definitely think he'll travel.


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    #1093
    thomond2006
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    They will have to pick a few Scottish players, the last thing the Lions want is to alienate Scottish fans and see jersey sales there plummet. Gray is on the plane with Visser and Hogg both probables. If Laidlaw shows decent form in the Six Nations he'll go as he covers 9 & 10.


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    #1094
    CatFromHue
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    I think they'll have to pick one player from each of the home nations in the interest of the team representing the 4 nations.

    I don't think jersey sales will come into at all, certainly not in Scotland which would be the smallest market anyway.

    The Scots do have a couple of talented players who will be in the mix but I think they realise it's just two or three.


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    #1095
    bilston
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    Even if only one or two Scots do make the tour don't be surprised to see them make the test side. Surround the likes of Gray and Visser with better players and I think you'll see them raise their game to a level they can't do with Scotland. It happened with the Irish lads in '97.


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    #1096
    cgpg5
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    Watched highlights of the England game

    Amazing what a difference a game makes. Ben Youngs is probably the leading 9 all of a sudden, while Tuilagi and Ashton did their chances the world of good. Think Robshaw would be good as a midweek captain at least. Lawes looked super hungry when he was on today he'll be a big addition to them in the 6n.

    After today, does Tom Youngs deserve to be left out of the 6n opener, even in favour of Hartley?


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    #1097
    .ak
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    I thought (Ben) Youngs was average. Very slow and pedantic. Defo don't think the SH won them the game. I thought Care looked better when he was on.


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    #1098
    cgpg5
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    .ak wrote: »
    I thought (Ben) Youngs was average. Very slow and pedantic. Defo don't think the SH won them the game. I thought Care looked better when he was on.
    Thought youngs was brilliant myself. Care wasn't on that long at all and definitely didn't do anything stand out. He was grand like


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    #1099
    accidentprone1
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    cgpg5 wrote: »
    Watched highlights of the England game

    Amazing what a difference a game makes. Ben Youngs is probably the leading 9 all of a sudden, while Tuilagi and Ashton did their chances the world of good. Think Robshaw would be good as a midweek captain at least. Lawes looked super hungry when he was on today he'll be a big addition to them in the 6n.

    After today, does Tom Youngs deserve to be left out of the 6n opener, even in favour of Hartley?

    I'd have to diasagree - I didn't watch the match but imo no matter how well Youngs or anyone else played, one game is not enough to makle someone the leading player in a fight for a Lions jersey.


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    #1100
    danthefan
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    accidentprone1 wrote: »
    I'd have to diasagree - I didn't watch the match but imo no matter how well Youngs or anyone else played, one game is not enough to makle someone the leading player in a fight for a Lions jersey.

    Who is leading in your opinion?


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    #1101
    cgpg5
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    accidentprone1 wrote: »
    I'd have to diasagree - I didn't watch the match but imo no matter how well Youngs or anyone else played, one game is not enough to makle someone the leading player in a fight for a Lions jersey.

    Well given it's between Care and himself (bar a massive improvement by someone else or a selection error on Gatland's part) and Youngs now seems to have overtaken Care as the English 9, then I have to conclude Youngs is indeed the current frontrunner. I'd have Care, but if he doesn't start in the 6n it'll be extremely difficult to make a case for him over Youngs


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    #1102
    Scioch
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    accidentprone1 wrote: »
    I'd have to diasagree - I didn't watch the match but imo no matter how well Youngs or anyone else played, one game is not enough to makle someone the leading player in a fight for a Lions jersey.

    Preliminary squad will be put together by the coaches this side of Christmas. So that one game can indeed make him the leading contender. Upto Care to change things in the 6 nations but those who did well in the AI's certainly did their chances more good than those who didnt.


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    #1103
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    Does anyone know when the identity of the members of Gatland's backroom staff is going to be announced


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    #1104
    thomond2006
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    Quade Cooper has re-signed with the ARU, so he'll be available for the Lions Series.


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    #1105
    accidentprone1
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    danthefan wrote: »
    Who is leading in your opinion?

    I'd probably have to stick with Care, but come to think of it, cgpg5 is right about it being unlikely Care will take over again from Youngs in the six nations!


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    #1106
    leonard7
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    farrel and rowentree and howley added to the lions set up...looks like a few more english could travel now


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    #1107
    GerM
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    An all Welsh/English management team would augur well for a potential Irish captain, one would think.


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    #1108
    bamboozle
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    GerM wrote: »
    An all Welsh/English management team would augur well for a potential Irish captain, one would think.
    think it was on this thread i mentioned a month back that Heaslip was 80/1 to be captain....

    in saying that i cant think of any player bar possibly Warburton & Heaslip who'll be test starters.

    Youngs form might see Hartley struggling for english game time.

    as for the SH debate above, the 3 i'd go with would be youngs, care and Phillips and let form decide who'll start. MIke Philipps on Lions tours in like Poulter in the ryder cup he really steps up and i'd expect to see him starting.


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    #1109
    jamiedav2011
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Quade Cooper has re-signed with the ARU, so he'll be available for the Lions Series.

    That's good, will certainly add some spice!


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    #1110
    Principal Skinner
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    Anyone hear joe Schmidt say that he won't be a lions coach in the post match interview? The sky presenter said they were expecting Andy Farrell and Shaun Edwards to be the other coaches.

    Outrageous decision. Shaun Edwards showed how good a coach he is this autumn and Andy Farrell's been crap bar one match against nz.

    Sign of things to come with squad selection methinks. Expect lots of welsh


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    Fireball07
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    There's a possibility Schmidt doesn't want to be.


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