Gay Marriage/Marriage Equality/End of World?

marienbad

Piliger wrote: »

And quite rightly so.

Not meaning to sidetrack the thread , but do you really mean this ?

Delirium

mylastparadigm wrote: »

the person said i am gay, i made a kid. not i am gay, i am a parent. two very different statements. so... anyone willing to climb down off the high horse yet?

you're dead right. Gay folk need to explain themselves as to how they came to have children. Good manners and social decorum be damned!

iwantmydinner

mylastparadigm wrote: »

the person said i am gay, i made a kid. not i am gay, i am a parent. two very different statements. so... anyone willing to climb down off the high horse yet?

Different statements, how?

Piliger

iwantmydinner wrote: »

Different statements, how?

Different words in different order .... For a start.

old hippy

In other news

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26773016

Father Edmund Montgomery, a member of the organisation and a Catholic priest in Greater Manchester, said: "As the Church, we love those seeking a same-sex union, but our love for them requires we tell them the true meaning of marriage, something which that fifth of respondents find difficult but have the integrity to do by turning down the invitation.
"In our modern culture it is increasingly difficult to have an open debate without being labelled as bigoted or intolerant."
He continued: "It is a great irony that those seeking to increase tolerance do not extend that to those who disagree with them."

lazygal

The simple solution to being labelled a bigot is to stop being a bigot.

Cabaal

Its just wrong that those people that hate and despise black people just for being black are called racist,

what sort of world do we live in? :pac:

lazygal

Cabaal wrote: »

Its just wrong that those people that hate and despise black people just for being black are called racist,

what sort of world do we live in? :pac:

Bloody liberal agenda.

old hippy

lazygal wrote: »

Bloody liberal agenda.

Pc brigade and their intolerance again!

Penn

old hippy wrote: »

"In our modern culture it is increasingly difficult to have an open debate without being labelled as bigoted or intolerant."
He continued: "It is a great irony that those seeking to increase tolerance do not extend that to those who disagree with them."

Yeah, because open debate and tolerance consists of "we tell them the true meaning of marriage".

"Thank you for being tolerant enough to allow me to make my case. Our version of marriage is the only correct one, and people who engage in homosexual acts are sinners, and our view of that will never change, nor will any counterpoints you make be taken into consideration. I'm glad we've been able to have an open debate about this."

Cabaal

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26773016

He added that, as marriage predates "the State", it should not be the government's place to change its meaning.

Marriage also pre-dates the creation of the christian religion, so by his logic they don't get to dictate it either
If we look at old civilization before the christian faith was invented we can see that a few allowed unions between same sex couples,

robindch

Cabaal wrote: »

Its just wrong that those people that hate and despise black people just for being black are called racist, what sort of world do we live in? :pac:

The Black Oil

Spokesperson for UK Coalition for Marriage on Sky News on about freedom of speech and attempts to 'shut down debate'*.

*Must have been a memo on the use of this phrase.

lazygal

Has anyone's traditional marriage been affected by events in the UK?

lynski

not yet, but he is still in bed, so i'll get back to you.

MrPudding

lynski wrote: »

not yet, but he is still in bed, so i'll get back to you.

I am not married, but I just looked out my window and I keep seeing a rainbow coloured van with blacked out windows. I think it is one of the gay marriage snatch squad vans. I fully support gay marriage, but I like the ladies. I hope I am not snatched and forced into a gay marriage.

Can anyone in the Gay Agenda™ put in a word for me please?
MrP

Bannasidhe

MrPudding wrote: »

I am not married, but I just looked out my window and I keep seeing a rainbow coloured van with blacked out windows. I think it is one of the gay marriage snatch squad vans. I fully support gay marriage, but I like the ladies. I hope I am not snatched and forced into a gay marriage.

Can anyone in the Gay Agenda™ put in a word for me please?
MrP

Have you considered conversion therapy?

FouxDaFaFa

Gay marriage becomes legal in England and Wales.

Earthquake in LA.

Coincidence? I think not.

aloyisious

MrPudding wrote: »

I am not married, but I just looked out my window and I keep seeing a rainbow coloured van with blacked out windows. I think it is one of the gay marriage snatch squad vans. I fully support gay marriage, but I like the ladies. I hope I am not snatched and forced into a gay marriage.

Can anyone in the Gay Agenda™ put in a word for me please?
MrP

Head to the N.I. part of the UK, you'll be safe there for a while ...................... barring extra-ordinary rendition, of course

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD8QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fjesusinlove%2F4813469550%2F&ei=tNU2U9rEG8Gv7QbuhICQCA&usg=AFQjCNFSy2COHHJlNFc7xFBXPlOyxnfpCw&sig2=g_RgUfQ_KiulLmuRi2osQg

aloyisious

Just copped this on a friend's facebook page:

http://www.thejournal.ie/john-waters-irish-times-1385751-Mar2014/?utm_source=facebook_short

rainbow kirby

lazygal wrote: »

Has anyone's traditional marriage been affected by events in the UK?

If we had decided to get married here in London rather than back home, we'd suddenly be facing increased competition for the nice venues :pac:

lazygal

http://gma.yahoo.com/christian-school-bans-tomboy-girl-direction-shes-heading-202605889--abc-news-topstories.html


WTF?

Links234

lazygal wrote: »

WTF?

This is your brain on religion

CiDeRmAn

lazygal wrote: »

http://gma.yahoo.com/christian-school-bans-tomboy-girl-direction-shes-heading-202605889--abc-news-topstories.html


WTF?

That's repugnant behaviour of a school right there.
Just imagine the twisted minds they're creating in there.
They just can't open an honest window on the world and it's diversity without recoiling in horror and moving into the inside of their dogma, collecting guns, crosses and a historical propensity to fire up both.

If I were Christian I'd be ashamed to be considered part of the same church as these weirdos.

My marriage to my wife is in no way threatened by her best friend getting married to her girlfriend. No, it's threatened by my habit of spending all my money instead on videogames.
So, are these churches going to shut down retrogame shops and eBay to defend marriage asap, for my relationships sake??
And soon?

Kiwi in IE

lazygal wrote: »

Has anyone's traditional marriage been affected by events in the UK?

OH and I have both been a bit grumpy and argumentative today and I was wondering why. Interestingly it got worse when we went for a walk at the beach, which is the closest point we have been to Wales and England.

Brian Shanahan

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

No, it's threatened by my habit of spending all my money instead on videogames.

That's probably because you haven't introduced her to the joys of Tokugawa scowling at her and petulantly screaming no every time she looks for something off him.



Ooh, Toku, will you ever learn?

Obliq

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

That's probably because you haven't introduced her to the joys of Tokugawa scowling at her and petulantly screaming no every time she looks for something off him.


Ooh, Toku, will you ever learn?

Ha, funny! Yes, the joys...*says she, petulantly ignoring her fella as he tops her Forza status YET AGAIN*

Bring back Sonic, I say.

Obliq

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

OH and I have both been a bit grumpy and argumentative today and I was wondering why. Interestingly it got worse when we went for a walk at the beach, which is the closest point we have been to Wales and England.

Yeah, hit a mountain today ourselves. Nearest to the US in terms of weather shenanigans. Says it all. Damn our liberal, PC agenda.

Piliger

lazygal wrote: »

Has anyone's traditional marriage been affected by events in the UK?

All day SKYNews has been including short interviews with bigots from catholic organisations complaining loudly about the abuse they have been receiving and how awful this all is, with each report on this topic. Makes ya wanna cry ....

The Black Oil

Gays are self-centred, apparently. OMG and want cultural dominance!

aloyisious

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

OH and I have both been a bit grumpy and argumentative today and I was wondering why. Interestingly it got worse when we went for a walk at the beach, which is the closest point we have been to Wales and England.

It might have been ripples in the Irish Sea (though there's nothing on the seismic sensors).

aloyisious

Piliger wrote: »

All day SKYNews has been including short interviews with bigots from catholic organisations complaining loudly about the abuse they have been receiving and how awful this all is, with each report on this topic. Makes ya wanna cry ....

If they stamp up and down enough, they'll get a tremor and say it's "all their fault - fingers pointed elsewhere"

aloyisious

lazygal wrote: »

http://gma.yahoo.com/christian-school-bans-tomboy-girl-direction-shes-heading-202605889--abc-news-topstories.html


WTF?

Long hair and robes (Christ - or Mary - like) attire only acceptable.

aloyisious

Piliger wrote: »

All day SKYNews has been including short interviews with bigots from catholic organisations complaining loudly about the abuse they have been receiving and how awful this all is, with each report on this topic. Makes ya wanna cry ....

This report might make them slightly happier, synopsis is that marriages are up 4%, but Civil and R/C marriages are down 1% each... http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/marriages-on-the-rise-again-after-post-boom-decline-263612.html

eviltwin

I was watching the coverage of the first same sex marriage on the news on Friday and found myself crying...now I'm always a bit emotional at weddings anyway but not usually when I don't know the couple. I think it was just the fact that what started off being a very historic and politically important event was really, when you came down to it, just two people in love being united as one and the fact it was two men really didn't matter, in fact it just showed the naysayers up for who they are. If you can't be happy to see two people in love getting married, if you can't find it in yourself to wish them well and appreciate their joy they you are a miserable sod. Congrats to all the newly married and soon to be married couples in the UK and Wales.

Peregrinus

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

OH and I have both been a bit grumpy and argumentative today and I was wondering why. Interestingly it got worse when we went for a walk at the beach, which is the closest point we have been to Wales and England.

I'm still waiting for my traditional marriage to be undermined by the introduction of divorce, as I was promised in 1996 would be the case. I have been sadly disappointed at the lack of gold-digging floozies seeking to seduce me away from my wife.

Still, I live in hope. And I can now add the hope that I will become the object of the matrimonial aspirations of hordes of gay men with a thing for balding, overweight, middle-aged straight blokes.

CiDeRmAn

Plus, from a purely economic point of view, this will bring a small fortune into the countries coffers, with same sex marriages booking hotels and whatnot.

Turtwig

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Plus, from a purely economic point of view, this will bring a small fortune into the countries coffers, with same sex marriages booking hotels and whatnot.

That's why hotel groups were for LGBT "equality" they sold out their souls for money!:mad: Money is ultimately what tears the fabric of our society apart. Ergo, we should ban money. When Adam and Eve walked in the garden there was no money.

Bannasidhe

Jernal wrote: »

When Adam and Eve walked in the garden there was no money.

There was money when they left but no where to spend it and nothing to buy.

Sulla Felix

Piliger wrote: »

And quite rightly so.

Why rightly so?
Considering they were left with egg on their face last year or the year before when they did that exact thing. Apparently no one had heard of the miracle of heredity and how two dark haired people can have a child with gasp! different coloured hair to them.

Piliger

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Why rightly so?
Considering they were left with egg on their face last year or the year before when they did that exact thing. Apparently no one had heard of the miracle of heredity and how two dark haired people can have a child with gasp! different coloured hair to them.

It is no harm to check and be sure. I support their actions 100%.

aloyisious

lazygal wrote: »

http://gma.yahoo.com/christian-school-bans-tomboy-girl-direction-shes-heading-202605889--abc-news-topstories.html


WTF?

Saw this on facebook, Dundalk Outcomers page, and got to thinking if it was something like this the school board was mentally seeing....
http://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/photographing-the-butch-women-of-san-francisco

CiDeRmAn

Saw that myself,
It's disgusting on so many levels.
She's a tomboy, not gay.
And even she she happened to be gay, so what Ffs.
If your religious edifice you seem intent on protecting is so fragile it needs such drastic action in the face of a teen with short hair and a black t-shirt you might want to get yourself a better faith, or none at all.

marienbad

Piliger wrote: »

It is no harm to check and be sure. I support their actions 100%.

Do you realize the implications of what you are saying ?

Sulla Felix

Piliger wrote: »

It is no harm to check and be sure. I support their actions 100%.

All families with dark haired parents and light haired children, or just the Romanian ones?

Obliq

Piliger wrote: »

It is no harm to check and be sure.

No, no....no harm AT ALL sure. I'm completely sure that if either of my sons were put in care for a day or so while I struggled to make the authorities believe they were my own flesh and blood, that it would have NO significant effect on either my feelings or their's....and clearly, we'd ALL be feeling a lot more secure in ourselves to know we could all be separated at a moment's notice. Yeah. Go state. Sock it to them families with children who look different to their parents.

Of course, this would never happen to me, as being native to Ireland, I have all my paperwork in order, ready to be inspected Sor.

Piliger

Sulla Felix wrote: »

All families with dark haired parents and light haired children, or just the Romanian ones?

Anyones where people make a report of suspicion and the community has a questionable history.

Piliger

marienbad wrote: »

Do you realize the implications of what you are saying ?

You're not still in infant school. I said it was 100% right and I support social workers checking.

marienbad

Piliger wrote: »

You're not still in infant school. I said it was 100% right and I support social workers checking.

Checking based on what evidence ?

Turtwig

Mod note:

Piliger has been given a weeks holidays for persisting in condescending remarks and tone when addressing other posters.